Lane departure warning - for the love of god, why???

Lane departure warning - for the love of god, why???

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Ari

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19,479 posts

220 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Drove a Mondeo recently with Lane Departure Warning. Basically with it set it rattles the steering wheel to warn you that you've gone over a broken white line (drifted from lane on a motorway for example). If you signal it doesn't do it, but if you don't, and you cross the line it does.

Now I cannot think of a single instance ever when I've wandered out of lane, let alone done it and not noticed! Are there really people out there so completely unobservant and incompetent that they can accidently chgange lane without noticing? And should these people be helped to drive or got off the road?

My big concern is that it will simply encourage those that text or whatever whilst driving to look away from the road for longer, after all, the "safety device" will warn them if they've strayed (but only once they're crossing the line, oops).

Genuinely cannot see the purpose of this device, or how it helps road safety (which is what it's billed as, a "safety device").

Add in adaptive cruise and I can imagine people taking next to no notice once they're on a motorway, car will warn them if they stray, car will speed up or slow down with traffic. Have a little gaze out of the side window instead or turn around and talk to the kids.

Right up until the accident...

nyxster

1,452 posts

176 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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the nova is bad for that sort of idiot assistance.

it has a light telling you when to change up a gear, as if the rev counter and the loud noise from under the bonnet wasn't enough of a clue.


chriscoates

795 posts

165 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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I think this system should only be used for lorry drivers, because I have seen it countless times when behind a lorry - the driver is wandering all over the hard shoulder. He only has to wander the other way and all hell could break loose.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

193 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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"because they can..."

There are plenty of labour saving devices and smart ideas appearing these days which no one asked for, or even knew they needed.


YoungOne

194 posts

164 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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My boss has a so called 'blind spot information system' in his Volvo S80.
It's really an annoying light on the A-pillar attached to an infra red sensor that flashes when you get alongside someone.
It is utter balls and what was wrong with checking your blindspot?
I'd love too use it as an excuse for not checking blind spot in a driving test.

Edited by YoungOne on Monday 17th January 19:28

iain_thornton

17,546 posts

184 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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unless you drive a Ford Excursion, it's usually obvious when you're crossing the line, I should think :|

nonuts

15,855 posts

234 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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I thought the lane departure warning on a 5 series I borrowed was very cool, however the fact you had to turn it on seemed a little wierd however I think there was another thread about that very thing!

Balmoral Green

41,596 posts

253 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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I have always thought this to be a very bad thing.

If anyone thinks it might be a useful feature on a car, as they are aware that they doze off on occasion when driving whilst tired, or sometimes lose concentration and can wander, then maybe they shouldn't be driving. Pandering to them with a system like this just encourages them to think it's acceptable.

If you're tired, or can't concentrate, then don't bloody drive. Dozing off then waking up with a start should be message enough, you don't need a bloody buzzer too mad

mike9009

7,440 posts

248 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Such a system may have helped a mate (read as acquaintance) of mine who fell asleep at the wheel late one night! Luckily for him he survived but was off work/ hospitalised for a significantly long time.

Might also encourage 'lazy' drivers to actually signal prior to changing lane?

Although, I agree all these driver aids actually encourage laziness and bad driving habits!

Mike

Or888t

1,686 posts

178 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Definatly promotes paying less attension to the road.

But it's simply business, value added means , 'ka-ching' for the manufacturers.

useyourdellusion

5,648 posts

195 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Wasn't this originally designed to stop you dropping off behind the wheel? I.e, buzzer/juddering steering wheel - awake with a start - panic - swerve. Yeah, very safe! rolleyes

A driver 'aid' too far in my eyes.

I'm sure most people can just admit they are tired and pull into the nearest services for 30mins shuteye...


ETA: Beaten to it by Balmoral Green. Yes, I agree. It is pandering to the lazy and uncaring. It will also contribute to chronic lane hogging I would have thought (especially if it can't be switched off).


Edited by useyourdellusion on Monday 17th January 19:45

John D.

18,369 posts

214 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Can't see the problem with it personally. People are going to drive tired or not pay enough attention with or without it (I don't buy that those with a car will think "OK, now I can get away with a little doze on the way home this evening").

I've seen cars wondering out of lanes in the past. Quite common in 50 limit roadworks where the lanes are narrower and spackers in the outside lane cannot guage how close they are to the central reservation barrier (which incidently has small raised neon yellow studs running along it so if you do stray too close to the barrier you get a noise and vibration in the car).

havoc

30,660 posts

240 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Ari said:
Are there really people out there so completely unobservant and incompetent that they can accidently chgange lane without noticing? And should these people be helped to drive or got off the road?
Yes there are. But I agree with BG - we shouldn't be pandering to them!

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

222 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Balmoral Green said:
If you're tired, or can't concentrate, then don't bloody drive. Dozing off then waking up with a start should be message enough, you don't need a bloody buzzer too mad
Totally agree with you and the OP.

In fact I'd go further.....all safty features should be banned.

I remember when airbags and abs were introduced.
I'm sure the many drivers now just rely on the safty features of thier cars to protect them rather than them having to drive properly.

Jasey@

5,176 posts

183 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Ari said:
Are there really people out there so completely unobservant and incompetent that they can accidently chgange lane without noticing?
Always said the mondeo was a girls car biggrin

Ari

Original Poster:

19,479 posts

220 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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John D. said:
I've seen cars wondering out of lanes in the past. Quite common in 50 limit roadworks where the lanes are narrower and spackers in the outside lane cannot guage how close they are to the central reservation barrier (which incidently has small raised neon yellow studs running along it so if you do stray too close to the barrier you get a noise and vibration in the car).
But even if people do accidently wander out of lane they must be aware of it, surely???

As to the falling asleep assist, there are product on the market (I think Mercedes have one) specifically designed to moniter driver alertness which has to be much better than hoping the driver wanders out of lane before they run into someone, and that a light vibration through the wheel wakes them up.

I just cannot see a situation where something to warn you you've just wandered across into another lane is relevent or desirable.

Oh, and what about cats eyes, surely they're enough to alert you you're at the edge?