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deaglecat said:
thinfourth2 said:
Quite a few have them as company cars.
I test drove one out of curiosity
Impressions ?I test drove one out of curiosity
I wasn't seriously considering buying one i was just hugely interested in new tech which the prius had in droves.
Battery swap every few years is a myth...
"The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear."
"The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear."
deaglecat said:
Battery swap every few years is a myth...
"The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear."
If the battery is suppost to last the lifetime of a car, why might replacements be needed?"The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear."
deaglecat said:
thinfourth2 said:
Quite a few have them as company cars.
I test drove one out of curiosity
Impressions ?I test drove one out of curiosity
clabcon said:
deaglecat said:
Battery swap every few years is a myth...
"The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear."
If the battery is suppost to last the lifetime of a car, why might replacements be needed?"The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear."
clabcon said:
deaglecat said:
Battery swap every few years is a myth...
"The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear."
If the battery is suppost to last the lifetime of a car, why might replacements be needed?"The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear."
I have 2 different old shape Prius as hire cars. I'd love one, sadly out of my budget, the tech amazes me. I know everyone talks about a diesel being more economical, but if you need an auto (as I do) they're better than a diesel auto. The only downside, everyone elses attitude to you when you're driving one.
As for the Auris HSD, I had a normal Auris, it was rubbish. It's a cheap car made with expensive labour (in the UK). It rattled, crunched it's gears and generally annoyed me every time I went out in it. Terrible interior quality too, everything scratched if you even looked at it.
As for the Auris HSD, I had a normal Auris, it was rubbish. It's a cheap car made with expensive labour (in the UK). It rattled, crunched it's gears and generally annoyed me every time I went out in it. Terrible interior quality too, everything scratched if you even looked at it.
Whether you think this is a good car depends what you're looking for. It is good if:
a. you travel into London because you avoid the congestion charge.
b. if it is a company car because it is low tax
c. if you fancy something a bit different
d. if you're worried about residuals as they seem to hold their value well
Unfortunately it isn't as cheap to run as a comparable diesel, particularly if you hammer it around the M25 like I see so many owners do. But good on you for considering something outside the usual Pistonheads box. We need more goats like you.
a. you travel into London because you avoid the congestion charge.
b. if it is a company car because it is low tax
c. if you fancy something a bit different
d. if you're worried about residuals as they seem to hold their value well
Unfortunately it isn't as cheap to run as a comparable diesel, particularly if you hammer it around the M25 like I see so many owners do. But good on you for considering something outside the usual Pistonheads box. We need more goats like you.
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