Petrol stations, and unused Nectar card points
Discussion
john_p said:
Seems like every petrol station I go to, the attendant scans Nectar points onto their own card if you don't have your own.
One I saw had ~70k points on it !
How much is that worth? Surely the garage operators are wise to this, isn't it some kind of theft?
Very few perks to the job other than cloning cards and nicking nectar points. Leave them to it, if you aren't taking them then I feel it's fair game, the card cloning is the real theft!One I saw had ~70k points on it !
How much is that worth? Surely the garage operators are wise to this, isn't it some kind of theft?
john_p said:
That's what reminded me. I don't care, provided it's not buying weapons for the Tamil Tigers or something
Surely BP etc would easily see on their systems that the same card is being used over and over.
there used to be a garage near me where the attendants openly admitted that's exactly what they were there for. was it common then?Surely BP etc would easily see on their systems that the same card is being used over and over.
I've busted someone for this before. Works fuel card, collection of points isn't allowed as its deemed personal gain from business.
Filled up the car with diesel, about £70 worth, and noticed on the bottom of the receipt "Points collected XX, total points XXXX", chinned the attendant about it and they tried the "oh, that how many you would have got". Needless to say this didn't go down well...
I don't see it as acceptable, especially in this instance. If this had gone un-noticed over a period of time I'd be looking at a misconduct warning / dismissal.
Filled up the car with diesel, about £70 worth, and noticed on the bottom of the receipt "Points collected XX, total points XXXX", chinned the attendant about it and they tried the "oh, that how many you would have got". Needless to say this didn't go down well...
I don't see it as acceptable, especially in this instance. If this had gone un-noticed over a period of time I'd be looking at a misconduct warning / dismissal.
Nectar contact the garage advising there is suspicious activity, informing them of the card details (including the registered name). The card is usually registered in the name of the employee, so it's not hard to tell from an employers point of view who's potentially abusing the system.
People don't seem to understand that there are systems in place to prevent fraud. This also applies to 'loyalty cards' for people who work in supermarkets. Systems are in place to automatically detect suspicious behaviour (2 weekly shops in an hour, for example), or a number of transactions in a day, multiple purchase of the same high value electronics. This also applies to examples such as Tesco clubcard.
The transaction also records some details of the card used for payment, therefore it would display against the nectar account if multiple card users have been providing points to a single loyalty card - again, flags the account as suspicious.
It all comes down to greed. The employee could be sensible about it (2/3 times a week swipe the card when someone fills up a 4x4 with petrol and pays by cash, for example) as this is perfectly possible to spend.
P.S. I helped develop systems similar to the above, so quite familiar with the processes.
People don't seem to understand that there are systems in place to prevent fraud. This also applies to 'loyalty cards' for people who work in supermarkets. Systems are in place to automatically detect suspicious behaviour (2 weekly shops in an hour, for example), or a number of transactions in a day, multiple purchase of the same high value electronics. This also applies to examples such as Tesco clubcard.
The transaction also records some details of the card used for payment, therefore it would display against the nectar account if multiple card users have been providing points to a single loyalty card - again, flags the account as suspicious.
It all comes down to greed. The employee could be sensible about it (2/3 times a week swipe the card when someone fills up a 4x4 with petrol and pays by cash, for example) as this is perfectly possible to spend.
P.S. I helped develop systems similar to the above, so quite familiar with the processes.
timbobalob said:
Until Christmas just gone, I'd been collecting Nectar points from BP (almost exclusively) and accumulated a pathetic 18,500 points for the last five years. Enough for a petrol chainsaw from Homebase though 
5 Years of paying 3-4p a litre more than the supermarket sells fuel for.Do the math
Seems as though Nectar points are open to abuse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-121899...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-121899...
ZOLLAR said:
Seems as though Nectar points are open to abuse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-121899...
That's IT fraud, rather than abusing the system. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-121899...
A - christ on a bike it's a few nectar points get a fooking hobby (or life) or sumink and stop moaning about worthless s
t (mind you that is what the net was invented fro apparently)
B - for the hours they work for the sst pay they deserve a (very very) small perk.
C - if it's not your points you have lost what's it got to do with you anyway? practising for the noisy git of the year award or sumink ?
t (mind you that is what the net was invented fro apparently) B - for the hours they work for the ss
t pay they deserve a (very very) small perk.C - if it's not your points you have lost what's it got to do with you anyway? practising for the noisy git of the year award or sumink ?
NHK244V said:
A - christ on a bike it's a few nectar points get a fooking hobby (or life) or sumink and stop moaning about worthless st (mind you that is what the net was invented fro apparently)
B - for the hours they work for the sst pay they deserve a (very very) small perk.
C - if it's not your points you have lost what's it got to do with you anyway? practising for the noisy git of the year award or sumink ?
t (mind you that is what the net was invented fro apparently) B - for the hours they work for the ss
t pay they deserve a (very very) small perk.C - if it's not your points you have lost what's it got to do with you anyway? practising for the noisy git of the year award or sumink ?
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