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Just came across this. You can have both videos on at the same time...
Just came across this. You can have both videos on at the same time...
That's awesome
A good reason to post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQVhyJP0Bc8
RIP McRae
Stopping is also better! (F1 vs E46 M3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1jCiU-4K5Y
A good reason to post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQVhyJP0Bc8
RIP McRae
Stopping is also better! (F1 vs E46 M3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1jCiU-4K5Y
RobM77 said:
Even a wingless Formula Ford with a Fiesta engine will outrun a supercar around a race track. Add massive slicks, downforce and times the power by five to get to F1 and the results are very dramatic!
So...educate me here. How many seconds a lap difference around the top gear test track do you think you'd get if you fitted racing slicks to the Kia C'eed? I ask because I'm always told that the tyres are the one component to make the most difference to a car's performance but i'm wondering how night and day the difference is.john_p said:
I was just thinking about that videomagnus911 said:
So...educate me here. How many seconds a lap difference around the top gear test track do you think you'd get if you fitted racing slicks to the Kia C'eed? I ask because I'm always told that the tyres are the one component to make the most difference to a car's performance but i'm wondering how night and day the difference is.
I suspect it would start running out of suspension travel if you gave it too much grip and hence be largely undrivable on the limit. magnus911 said:
RobM77 said:
Even a wingless Formula Ford with a Fiesta engine will outrun a supercar around a race track. Add massive slicks, downforce and times the power by five to get to F1 and the results are very dramatic!
So...educate me here. How many seconds a lap difference around the top gear test track do you think you'd get if you fitted racing slicks to the Kia C'eed? I ask because I'm always told that the tyres are the one component to make the most difference to a car's performance but i'm wondering how night and day the difference is.magnus911 said:
RobM77 said:
Even a wingless Formula Ford with a Fiesta engine will outrun a supercar around a race track. Add massive slicks, downforce and times the power by five to get to F1 and the results are very dramatic!
So...educate me here. How many seconds a lap difference around the top gear test track do you think you'd get if you fitted racing slicks to the Kia C'eed? I ask because I'm always told that the tyres are the one component to make the most difference to a car's performance but i'm wondering how night and day the difference is.magnus911 said:
RobM77 said:
Even a wingless Formula Ford with a Fiesta engine will outrun a supercar around a race track. Add massive slicks, downforce and times the power by five to get to F1 and the results are very dramatic!
So...educate me here. How many seconds a lap difference around the top gear test track do you think you'd get if you fitted racing slicks to the Kia C'eed? I ask because I'm always told that the tyres are the one component to make the most difference to a car's performance but i'm wondering how night and day the difference is.It's not just slicks that make a single seater fast, you've also got to consider the track, roll centre and CofG - they're extremely low and wide compared to a road car.
For comparison by the way, I can quote some lap time figures for Brands Indy off the top of my head. Plato took an Esprit Sport 350 round there in 57 seconds for Evo magazine, Tiff had some hot hatches in and around 60 seconds, and I think an R500 or a Noble M400 can crack 51/52 seconds (all on road tyres obviously). I think I was doing 54s in my Caterham (only 115bhp and road tyres, but with racing suspension). A current Formula Ford is lapping in around 46 seconds (I think they're around 450kg and 160bhp). A guy called Scott Mansell has the outright lap record I believe, in an old F1 car homologated for the BOSS series, fitted with a manual gearbox, probably a Judd or DFV engine etc (this all makes them cheaper to run) of about 39s; I expect a modern F1 car might push 36s.
thinfourth2 said:
magnus911 said:
RobM77 said:
Even a wingless Formula Ford with a Fiesta engine will outrun a supercar around a race track. Add massive slicks, downforce and times the power by five to get to F1 and the results are very dramatic!
So...educate me here. How many seconds a lap difference around the top gear test track do you think you'd get if you fitted racing slicks to the Kia C'eed? I ask because I'm always told that the tyres are the one component to make the most difference to a car's performance but i'm wondering how night and day the difference is.TonyHetherington said:
Magnus, do you recall they did exactly that with the Renault Avantime on Top Gear? Put track day rubber on, then re-run, then suspension, then re-run etc.
The thing with fitting slicks to a Kia Cee'd is that the suspension isn't set up to take them.
Yes I do actually, it didn't make all that much difference IIRC.The thing with fitting slicks to a Kia Cee'd is that the suspension isn't set up to take them.
Then Clarkson was moaning because he just wanted to increase power.
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