Rotary engine, could an idiot work on it?

Rotary engine, could an idiot work on it?

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brooksyrotary13

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4 posts

165 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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I recently was told my Rx8 needed a new coil pack, HT leads & sparks and was quoted £480 by my local mazda dealer to fix this. Anyone have any idea how easy it is to do this kind of work on a rotary engine if you have little knowledge about engine upkeep? online walkthroughs etc. and where would be best to get parts online? thanks!

Rubin215

2,084 posts

201 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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An idiot can work on anything!

Whether it ever runs properly again though...

wink

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

260 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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Easy...piece of wk

Fordo

1,547 posts

229 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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learn by doing!

ht leads, coil pack and spark plugs should be fairly easy. Just depends whats in the way- being a rotary engine, things might be located in the bowels of the engine bay, or you might have to undo other things to get access. I havent personally worked on an Rx8 though, should could just as easily be a piece of cake!

A fair bit of snooping on an RX8 forum should answer all

Make sure you do things properly though- like tightening the spark plug up to the correct torque. Last thing you want is it working it's way loose and chewing the spark hole threads on the way out...

Edited by Fordo on Tuesday 11th January 23:17

EDLT

15,421 posts

211 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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If you've done engine work before then you'll be able to manage it. Plugs, leads and coil packs are in odd places but they work in the same way as in a normal engine.

jonno990

420 posts

183 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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If it's anything like an rx7 the plugs should be easy as long as you have two elbows per arm.;)
Seriously though plugs were easily do-able with a bit of practise. No idea about the coil pack.
Socket wrench with an adjustable head will help a lot.

out of interest are the top plugs different to the lowers?

brooksyrotary13

Original Poster:

4 posts

165 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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i havent a clue tbh! guess i could give it a go....how hard can it be? :S

STW2010

5,800 posts

167 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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The spark plugs can be tricky to get to. Two of them are really only accessible through the nearside wheel arch. The coils are quite straight forward- behind the air intake. If you have the right socket set (with extension) then you shouldn't have much difficulty. But... DO NOT drop the bolts!

Leads are easy, but remember to connect them in the correct order.

Finally, you will need trailing and leading spark plugs (and fit them in the correct places). You can get the full set of 4 from mazdarotaryparts.com for about £100.


STW2010

5,800 posts

167 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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Oh, and be ready to lose some knuckle skin!

mizx

1,575 posts

190 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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This might help, I've been consdering an RX-8 for a while and stumbled upon it in my research, http://foxed.ca/rx7manual/2003mazdarx8/

It only seems to work in IE.
STW2010 said:
You can get the full set of 4 from mazdarotaryparts.com for about £100.
They're offering a discount on leads when bought with a set of coils too.

Edited by mizx on Tuesday 11th January 23:43

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

200 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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A friend and I done all this in about 3 hours on a rainy afternoon, lot of swearing and a few grazed knuckles but it was all pretty straight forward. We didnt realy use a manual or a guide however.

Sorted the running out though and was well worth doing.

Its actually a very simple engine.

tezzer

983 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Only the type of idiot who would consider a 3.6 flat 6 next !

wolves_wanderer

12,541 posts

242 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Yep, I've done those jobs on mine having never done more than an oil change. The front passenger wheel will have to come off to get access to the plugs (make sure you buy the right type, they are expensive but important that you use the right ones). The coil packs are easy enough if you move the airbox (videos how to on youtube). The main thing is to make sure you connect the leads in the right way, there are how-to articles on www.mazdarotaryclub.co.uk.

Do you have all the parts already or do you want links to where I bought mine from (a lot cheaper than a Mazda dealer for the same things).

Edit, www.mazdarotaryparts.com as already mentioned are good and quick, I bought the cables and plugs from there

http://www.arlingtonmazda.com I bought the coils from here as they were quite a bit cheaper at the time but delivery was about 4 weeks

Edited by wolves_wanderer on Wednesday 12th January 07:53

Desk20

171 posts

240 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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I had to do that job last weekend on mine. This idiot found it quite an easy task, it only took about half an hour to do and that was being careful.

marcosgt

11,078 posts

181 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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wolves_wanderer said:
Yep, I've done those jobs on mine having never done more than an oil change. The front passenger wheel will have to come off to get access to the plugs (make sure you buy the right type, they are expensive but important that you use the right ones). The coil packs are easy enough if you move the airbox (videos how to on youtube). The main thing is to make sure you connect the leads in the right way, there are how-to articles on www.mazdarotaryclub.co.uk.

Do you have all the parts already or do you want links to where I bought mine from (a lot cheaper than a Mazda dealer for the same things).

Edit, www.mazdarotaryparts.com as already mentioned are good and quick, I bought the cables and plugs from there

http://www.arlingtonmazda.com I bought the coils from here as they were quite a bit cheaper at the time but delivery was about 4 weeks

Edited by wolves_wanderer on Wednesday 12th January 07:53
Not done the plugs, but coils and leads are easy.

You don't even need to take the airbox of to swap the coils either, although most guides suggest this (time consuming) approach.

M.

Chiswickboy

549 posts

193 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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STW2010 said:
Finally, you will need trailing and leading spark plugs (and fit them in the correct places). You can get the full set of 4 from mazdarotaryparts.com for about £100.
HOW MUCH?


Does that include fitting and a full service and valet?

STW2010

5,800 posts

167 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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The plugs in rotary engines need to fire 4 times as fast as a piston engine, so they are expensive as a result.

nottyash

4,671 posts

200 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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STW2010 said:
The spark plugs can be tricky to get to. Two of them are really only accessible through the nearside wheel arch. The coils are quite straight forward- behind the air intake. If you have the right socket set (with extension) then you shouldn't have much difficulty. But... DO NOT drop the bolts!

Leads are easy, but remember to connect them in the correct order.

Finally, you will need trailing and leading spark plugs (and fit them in the correct places). You can get the full set of 4 from mazdarotaryparts.com for about £100.
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