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Hit a pothole a couple of nights ago and ruined a tyre. It was dark and i didn't see the hole, but it's the first time i've had an instant deflation.
To compound the problem i couldn't undo any of the wheel nuts to put the spare on. The rescue people broke a long SnapOn bar trying to undo them but got them undone evntually.
The next day we put a claim in with the council online and went to take some photos of the hole, only to find someone else doing exactly the same, as the same thing had happened to them the night before! Went to the tyre fitters and got talking to a bloke who had also got a blown tyre from the same hole!
It turned out that it was a series of holes about 20 feet long with one deep one - about 5 inches - at the end in the normal wheel track near the middle of the road
I'm just glad i didn't need a wheel replacement like the person also photographing the site.
I'm now waiting for the council response
To compound the problem i couldn't undo any of the wheel nuts to put the spare on. The rescue people broke a long SnapOn bar trying to undo them but got them undone evntually.
The next day we put a claim in with the council online and went to take some photos of the hole, only to find someone else doing exactly the same, as the same thing had happened to them the night before! Went to the tyre fitters and got talking to a bloke who had also got a blown tyre from the same hole!
It turned out that it was a series of holes about 20 feet long with one deep one - about 5 inches - at the end in the normal wheel track near the middle of the road
I'm just glad i didn't need a wheel replacement like the person also photographing the site.
I'm now waiting for the council response
Big Rod said:
Hit one on the M74 a couple of weeks back in the Shogun which got me some air.
If I'd hit it in a normal car I've no doubt it would have ripped the guts right out from underneath it.
I'm wondering how many accidents/claims it's caused.
If a biker hit that...well, it doesn't bear thinking about.If I'd hit it in a normal car I've no doubt it would have ripped the guts right out from underneath it.
I'm wondering how many accidents/claims it's caused.
Some of the potholes around my area (Bucks/Oxon) are shocking, and have been there for weeks!
The council should be ashamed.
Big Rod said:
Hit one on the M74 a couple of weeks back in the Shogun which got me some air.
If I'd hit it in a normal car I've no doubt it would have ripped the guts right out from underneath it.
I'm wondering how many accidents/claims it's caused.
Think I heard on the news that a pothole on the M74 had caused a 10 car accident this morning, not good.If I'd hit it in a normal car I've no doubt it would have ripped the guts right out from underneath it.
I'm wondering how many accidents/claims it's caused.
750turbo said:
Big Rod said:
Hit one on the M74 a couple of weeks back in the Shogun which got me some air.
If I'd hit it in a normal car I've no doubt it would have ripped the guts right out from underneath it.
I'm wondering how many accidents/claims it's caused.
Think I heard on the news that a pothole on the M74 had caused a 10 car accident this morning, not good.If I'd hit it in a normal car I've no doubt it would have ripped the guts right out from underneath it.
I'm wondering how many accidents/claims it's caused.
Councils will resist claims vigorously I have now been told by friend in charge of traffic management for a big city council.
Good news in some way is once the Police put the cause of any accident down as road condition the local autority will get sued (he stressed it has to be the major factor not an influencing one). Shame people have to get injured or die so some berk does his job properly.
Good news in some way is once the Police put the cause of any accident down as road condition the local autority will get sued (he stressed it has to be the major factor not an influencing one). Shame people have to get injured or die so some berk does his job properly.
anonymous said:
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This is always what narks me (this isn't aimed at you), that wouldn't be an excuse for us if we had to defend a problem on our vehicle to the Police would it?!Sure the law states that we are responsible for checking our vehicle to make sure it's safe but surely they have a responsibility to make sure 'their' roads (which WE pay for!) are in a minimum of a safe condition.
I've said this to others, one day someone on a motor/peddle bike or a pedestrian is going to end up in a box permanently because of a pothole and they can just turn around and say "meh, we didn't know! We cool?".
anonymous said:
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Thanks, went straight on the potholes.co.uk site the next morning to follow their recommendations. It is pretty difficult to measure potholes on a busy road, i had to keep running out with the tape measure and try and take a steady photo in between the traffic
EDLT said:
They'll start filling them in in March, when they need to use up the rest of their budget.
They start filling them in March as we are normally the other side of the freezing temperatures and there isn't much point in filling them before then. Its a problem that is only going to get worse unless we adapt the techniques we use, unfortunately they requires fore thought and planning.Here we go again...
My annual stock response (although beaten to it by Isaac above)
Report them. Local authorities have a "report" function on their websites. If they don't know about it, how can they fill it in? You may drive past it every day, but if the Council inspectors don't pass it, and nobody reports it, then surprise surprise they get left.
In my experience, once reported they are (for the most part) filled in in a timely manner. It costs the Council a lot less to repair the pothole than to keep paying out £500 claims for apparent damage to Corsa wheels etc.
It's not the fault of the Council that potholes appear - it is a function of the bad weather. On this front, I think they do bloody well.
My annual stock response (although beaten to it by Isaac above)
Report them. Local authorities have a "report" function on their websites. If they don't know about it, how can they fill it in? You may drive past it every day, but if the Council inspectors don't pass it, and nobody reports it, then surprise surprise they get left.
In my experience, once reported they are (for the most part) filled in in a timely manner. It costs the Council a lot less to repair the pothole than to keep paying out £500 claims for apparent damage to Corsa wheels etc.
It's not the fault of the Council that potholes appear - it is a function of the bad weather. On this front, I think they do bloody well.
Moogle said:
anonymous said:
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This is always what narks me (this isn't aimed at you), that wouldn't be an excuse for us if we had to defend a problem on our vehicle to the Police would it?!Sure the law states that we are responsible for checking our vehicle to make sure it's safe but surely they have a responsibility to make sure 'their' roads (which WE pay for!) are in a minimum of a safe condition.
I've said this to others, one day someone on a motor/peddle bike or a pedestrian is going to end up in a box permanently because of a pothole and they can just turn around and say "meh, we didn't know! We cool?".
Should cars just steam down the road regardless of what is in the carriageway? One drives to the conditions. If a road is a 40mph limit, yet covered in ice, do you drive it at 40mph? Nope, you use common sense and drive the road accordingly. If you see a pothole, you can always slow down to give yourself more time to avoid it. I admit this isn't possible in every single case, but realistically, most people drive the same route between Mon-Fri, so shouldn't be as much of a problem, n'est pas?
You are talking about a freak type of accident. Of course, why not sue, may as well join in this stupid compo culture we have, which will push up council tax rates etc, and then it can be moaned about even more...
Opulent said:
Moogle said:
anonymous said:
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This is always what narks me (this isn't aimed at you), that wouldn't be an excuse for us if we had to defend a problem on our vehicle to the Police would it?!Sure the law states that we are responsible for checking our vehicle to make sure it's safe but surely they have a responsibility to make sure 'their' roads (which WE pay for!) are in a minimum of a safe condition.
I've said this to others, one day someone on a motor/peddle bike or a pedestrian is going to end up in a box permanently because of a pothole and they can just turn around and say "meh, we didn't know! We cool?".
Should cars just steam down the road regardless of what is in the carriageway? One drives to the conditions. If a road is a 40mph limit, yet covered in ice, do you drive it at 40mph? Nope, you use common sense and drive the road accordingly. If you see a pothole, you can always slow down to give yourself more time to avoid it. I admit this isn't possible in every single case, but realistically, most people drive the same route between Mon-Fri, so shouldn't be as much of a problem, n'est pas?
You are talking about a freak type of accident. Of course, why not sue, may as well join in this stupid compo culture we have, which will push up council tax rates etc, and then it can be moaned about even more...
I'm not saying that they should HAVE to the know the changing conditions every second of every inch of every road they cover, I'm just saying they should still have to pay out as regardless, it's still their responsibility.
Do you understand what I am trying to say here?
^^ That is simply atrocious. Is it public highway or private road?
Moogle, if these are the size of the potholes you're talking about, I'd say the Councils WOULD pay. They are a little bigger than the recent potholes that have popped up following the bad weather. I was referring to holes say 200x200mm, x no more than 50mm deep. Surfacing potholes. The holes above look like they have been there for a few months!
Moogle, if these are the size of the potholes you're talking about, I'd say the Councils WOULD pay. They are a little bigger than the recent potholes that have popped up following the bad weather. I was referring to holes say 200x200mm, x no more than 50mm deep. Surfacing potholes. The holes above look like they have been there for a few months!
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