Those of you who buy and sell cars...

Those of you who buy and sell cars...

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Night Runner

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12,268 posts

201 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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I mean those of you who do it as a hobby/sideline, a car a month or so.

What do you do about insurance? I'm investigating the viability of making a couple of quid every now and then. Insurance is obviously a big factor!

Cheers

PaulGT3

375 posts

179 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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I think anything more than 6 vehicles a year and they advise a traders policy which can be had cheaply depending on age.

Night Runner

Original Poster:

12,268 posts

201 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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PaulGT3 said:
I think anything more than 6 vehicles a year and they advise a traders policy which can be had cheaply depending on age.
I vaguely remember 6+ cars a year meaning you are a trader, I presume this also has tax implications...

STW2010

5,812 posts

169 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Night Runner said:
PaulGT3 said:
I think anything more than 6 vehicles a year and they advise a traders policy which can be had cheaply depending on age.
I vaguely remember 6+ cars a year meaning you are a trader, I presume this also has tax implications...
And SOGA implications if you sell a motor with problems

LeeThr

3,122 posts

178 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Night Runner said:
PaulGT3 said:
I think anything more than 6 vehicles a year and they advise a traders policy which can be had cheaply depending on age.
I vaguely remember 6+ cars a year meaning you are a trader, I presume this also has tax implications...
Would there be tax implications if you were to straight swap the cars i.e no cash involved just car, keys, V5 + other paperwork?
Also what would you do with insurance then?

CampDavid

9,145 posts

205 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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There is no magical number where by you become a trader, if you sell a car for profit you are trading. In practice they may take issue with 10 or so cars, 6 is probably low enough to not attract attention.

Insurance wise for six cars you could go for a trader's policy, though I believe you're only then covered for use in the motor trade, you can drive it to aid the sale but not for trips to asda.

davepoth

29,395 posts

206 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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If you just like having lots of different cars, no problem. If you are buying with specific intent to sell at a profit, it needs to be declared.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

224 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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You can take out a trade policy as a part time home trader, this will give you the same sort of cover as a normal policy i.e social domestic and pleasure, with the option to include commuting and business use as well as insuring any cars that you own and arent selling. . . . all at a price obviously, it will come with a few negative points, for example if your involved in a none fault accident, you wont get a hire car.

It will also mean that in the eyes of HMRC you are a trader and will need to jump through all the normal paperwork and taxation hoops, including paying tax on any profits

It's also worth noting that normal no claims won't apply to a trade policy, although some brokers may offer a discount.


LeeThr

3,122 posts

178 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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davepoth said:
If you just like having lots of different cars, no problem. If you are buying with specific intent to sell at a profit, it needs to be declared.
So if i was to just swap cars without any profit I wouldnt need to declare anything.

What would I do about insurance though? If i wanted to be able to drive around as I please?

LeeThr

3,122 posts

178 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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TVR Moneypit said:
LeeThr said:
What would I do about insurance though? If i wanted to be able to drive around as I please?
Phone Trade-Ex and take out a traders policy. Just don't forget to inform them ever time you buy / sell / swap a motor.
Will they cover me for just general commuting? If it has nothing at all to do with selling or buying cars?

LeeThr

3,122 posts

178 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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TVR Moneypit said:
LeeThr said:
TVR Moneypit said:
LeeThr said:
What would I do about insurance though? If i wanted to be able to drive around as I please?
Phone Trade-Ex and take out a traders policy. Just don't forget to inform them ever time you buy / sell / swap a motor.
Will they cover me for just general commuting? If it has nothing at all to do with selling or buying cars?
Three posts up I added this snipet of information.....


TVR Moneypit said:
CampDavid said:
There is no magical number where by you become a trader, if you sell a car for profit you are trading. In practice they may take issue with 10 or so cars, 6 is probably low enough to not attract attention.

Insurance wise for six cars you could go for a trader's policy, though I believe you're only then covered for use in the motor trade, you can drive it to aid the sale but not for trips to asda.
It's been a few years since I last had a traders policy, but when I did, (Trade-Ex), any vehicle I owned was covered for SD&P / to and from a place of work, as well as the usual test drives etc.
To answer your question, (again), yes. best to ask though, as it must be close to ten years since I last had a traders policy.
sorry must have posted that whilst i was posting mine, thanks. biggrin