But seriously... The state of our roads are truly appalling
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We all know this is nothing new, I'm well aware of that. I just find it no longer acceptable, the roads are plain dangerous!
I'm around Sheffield/ the derbyshire area and between Sheffield roads and derbyshire lanes by the time I get to my destination I feel stressed out. Putting aside the cosmetic situation (the holes in the road create so many stones lying about- waiting for a car on the opposite side to stone chip any part of the bodywork), its the danger of hitting those holes at speed. As if fog, darkness, other road users weren't hazard enough we now have to try and look extremely carefully at every inch of the road for huge potholes.
How do people responsible for safety on these roads get away with it??? It surprises me that more accidents don't occur.
It's a real disgrace. I have my folk in switzerland, have lived there for years, that tell me they're sick of the council cleaning up the roads, one or two leaves and they're there sweeping it up. Same goes with roads- its never left for more than hours.
Ours have this "disintegrated leaves" slush on the side of the roads, left there to rot until nothing is left.
I really wish a quality piece of tarmac was laid on a lot of our roads and remained in good order for years instead of the s
t we put up with.
I'm around Sheffield/ the derbyshire area and between Sheffield roads and derbyshire lanes by the time I get to my destination I feel stressed out. Putting aside the cosmetic situation (the holes in the road create so many stones lying about- waiting for a car on the opposite side to stone chip any part of the bodywork), its the danger of hitting those holes at speed. As if fog, darkness, other road users weren't hazard enough we now have to try and look extremely carefully at every inch of the road for huge potholes.
How do people responsible for safety on these roads get away with it??? It surprises me that more accidents don't occur.
It's a real disgrace. I have my folk in switzerland, have lived there for years, that tell me they're sick of the council cleaning up the roads, one or two leaves and they're there sweeping it up. Same goes with roads- its never left for more than hours.
Ours have this "disintegrated leaves" slush on the side of the roads, left there to rot until nothing is left.
I really wish a quality piece of tarmac was laid on a lot of our roads and remained in good order for years instead of the s
t we put up with.Government has been getting away with underfunding our roads for years, only got away with it because we've had relatively mild winters for years. Now that we've had two really cold ones are all the symptoms showing. Compared to our european neighbours our roads are a disgrace.
You are right they are very dangerous - pot holes from last year are now twice the bloody size. Some near me are like bloody craters.
You are right they are very dangerous - pot holes from last year are now twice the bloody size. Some near me are like bloody craters.
I am in Sheffield too, and I have to agree with you that the state of our roads is truly disgraceful. We still haven't recovered from last winter - there are still loads of big potholes around that they never bothered to fill in. Then they use that horrible `chippings` crap to resurface the roads that puts stone chips all over your car. When they did it on my estate, I could actually pull the stones up with my fingers.
Try the M6 round Walsall and Cannock despite them doing the managed motorway work there are some nasty potholes along what was the original lane markings, great on a fast road.
Given last winter fked the roads to the point it would take a decade to fix now with a second bad winter I doubt it will help.
Given last winter f
ked the roads to the point it would take a decade to fix now with a second bad winter I doubt it will help.I believe the AA have stated that the roads have been under-funded to the tune of about £10 billion over the last 10-15 years.
Having spent alot of time in Germany (Ring Trips), I have seen them resurfacing the roads there and the difference is massive. Their top layer of tarmac is at least 5 times thicker than ours and the result is that the roads last alot longer.
I have a friend in road building and he confirms that when they 's@%t stones' onto the road rather than resurfacing it, its because they don't have the funds to resurface it and instead try and delay the degredation of the road.
I saw the video going over the internet of the massive Haiti Earthquake at the beginning of the year. An SUV was driving down a street showing you the destruction caused. Watching it a second time though I was most desturbed to see that in this country with a GNP thats 0.25% of our own, they have better roads.
Having spent alot of time in Germany (Ring Trips), I have seen them resurfacing the roads there and the difference is massive. Their top layer of tarmac is at least 5 times thicker than ours and the result is that the roads last alot longer.
I have a friend in road building and he confirms that when they 's@%t stones' onto the road rather than resurfacing it, its because they don't have the funds to resurface it and instead try and delay the degredation of the road.
I saw the video going over the internet of the massive Haiti Earthquake at the beginning of the year. An SUV was driving down a street showing you the destruction caused. Watching it a second time though I was most desturbed to see that in this country with a GNP thats 0.25% of our own, they have better roads.
The roads around here arent too bad for potholes but they are incredibly bumpy. I drove through the cambridge area the other week to avoid the main roads and i was actually shocked as to how smooth the roads were.
They do use that stone chipping malarky too which, as others have stated, dings your car, wears out to leave bald patches and in one 500 yard section is actually a rumble strip because its been laid so badly.
They do use that stone chipping malarky too which, as others have stated, dings your car, wears out to leave bald patches and in one 500 yard section is actually a rumble strip because its been laid so badly.
I think one of the problems is modern euroboxes have such good suspension that the average Joe doesn't notice the state of the roads unless they are absolutely diabolical, hence the local authority can get away with more. Driving anything more sporty as most of us on here do, you notice the lunar scape that is our road network more, but we are a minority, unfortunately.
MKnight702 said:
I think one of the problems is modern euroboxes have such good suspension that the average Joe doesn't notice the state of the roads unless they are absolutely diabolical, hence the local authority can get away with more. Driving anything more sporty as most of us on here do, you notice the lunar scape that is our road network more, but we are a minority, unfortunately.
Spot the guy who hasn't been in any german cars built in the past 5 years. Sporty = Rubber band tyres and concrete springs I hit a pothole this week on the motorway at 75mph...absolutely ttted the thing with my left wheels and somehow knocked one of my front grilles out and sent my tracking wildly out, having to do a further 120 miles wasn't fun to say the least
The pot hole was at least 12 inches wide and 6 inches deep, seemed like it swollowed my wheel entirely
However, one thing everyone forgets is the threads were going to have in a few months time where everyone winges about roads being closed due to re surfacing and repairs, not to mention tar deposits. From what I've found in my 20 years is, no ones ever happy and we always moan
tted the thing with my left wheels and somehow knocked one of my front grilles out and sent my tracking wildly out, having to do a further 120 miles wasn't fun to say the leastThe pot hole was at least 12 inches wide and 6 inches deep, seemed like it swollowed my wheel entirely
However, one thing everyone forgets is the threads were going to have in a few months time where everyone winges about roads being closed due to re surfacing and repairs, not to mention tar deposits. From what I've found in my 20 years is, no ones ever happy and we always moan
T33JOB said:
However, one thing everyone forgets is the threads were going to have in a few months time where everyone winges about roads being closed due to re surfacing and repairs, not to mention tar deposits. From what I've found in my 20 years is, no ones ever happy and we always moan
better than people posting about claiming for new alloys from the LA Immingham road A1173 between the A18 and B1210 roundabout! Half the frickin' road is falling off at the edges on the chicane type bends, how no one has gone off is a miracle! Its stretches in at least 0.5m - 1m on both sides of the road!
Getting quite hard nowadays round here to find decent roads to enjoy a good hearty hoon in our smart roadster without trying to dodge all the large craters for fear of mid corner collisions or bluckling the alloys.
Getting quite hard nowadays round here to find decent roads to enjoy a good hearty hoon in our smart roadster without trying to dodge all the large craters for fear of mid corner collisions or bluckling the alloys.
Edited by PaulG40 on Thursday 30th December 09:46
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