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Hi All, Merry Christmas....
Just wanted opinons of those that have driven both if possible.
I drove a friends 120d and was shocked at how good it really was, quick enough in the real world and with great economy. Looks best in M-sport but SE or Sport are both adequate.
Mrs. Ice still has not decided which car she wants and last night mentioned the 1-series.
So over to you all.
IceBoy
Just wanted opinons of those that have driven both if possible.
I drove a friends 120d and was shocked at how good it really was, quick enough in the real world and with great economy. Looks best in M-sport but SE or Sport are both adequate.
Mrs. Ice still has not decided which car she wants and last night mentioned the 1-series.
So over to you all.
IceBoy
I have a 123d. My first oil burner. The extra umph over the 120d is nice but probably not worth the extra it costs me as a company car. Not driven the petrol but worth checking out the real world mpg as the 123d only does around 40mpg. The petrol might mot be that far off and it has to sound (a lot) nicer. Couldn't cope with the diesel noise if I didn't have a TVR to remind me what engines should sound like
It still saves me over £100 a month compared to my 2.0TFSI Quattro A3 though.
Gary
It still saves me over £100 a month compared to my 2.0TFSI Quattro A3 though.
Gary
Patrick Bateman said:
Fox- said:
I am no diesel fan and usually advocate petrol over diesel but the 2.0i isnt that great.
So get a 125i.
But then you'd be as well getting the 130i in that case.So get a 125i.
Oh and the 2.0d is a nice engine when it works, IIRC 2000 era-ish models had problems with Turbos and/or traction control inlet things that caused engine write offs.
I have the 2.0d engine in a 58 plate 320d coupe (177) ..... having come from a Z4M Roadster !
It has a nice turn of speed and whilst no sports car is no slouch in the real world.
I get anything from 34 to 53 mpg (it's an auto).
If I was looking at 120d or 120i I would very quickly discount the 120i.
The 2.0d engine doesn't sound bad on the move and BMW diesels are in a different league to other manufacturers. 177bhp from a 2.0d is adequate in my book
It has a nice turn of speed and whilst no sports car is no slouch in the real world.
I get anything from 34 to 53 mpg (it's an auto).
If I was looking at 120d or 120i I would very quickly discount the 120i.
The 2.0d engine doesn't sound bad on the move and BMW diesels are in a different league to other manufacturers. 177bhp from a 2.0d is adequate in my book
randomman said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Fox- said:
I am no diesel fan and usually advocate petrol over diesel but the 2.0i isnt that great.
So get a 125i.
But then you'd be as well getting the 130i in that case.So get a 125i.
Oh and the 2.0d is a nice engine when it works, IIRC 2000 era-ish models had problems with Turbos and/or traction control inlet things that caused engine write offs.
Just an FYI- they're nothing to do with traction control.
Between a 120i and a 120d I'd have the diesel by a long shot.
Sam.F said:
The 120d will leave the 120i for dead in almost every real-world situation.
The 3-series is the only car I can find on www.bmw.co.uk with a modern 2.0 petrol engine in proper spec (the 118i is a 2.0 but it's in a low state of tune).In every situation, lab-based and real world, the turbodiesel is quicker:
320i - 170bhp, 154lb/ft, 142mph, 0-62mph in 8.2s, 50mph-75mph in 4th gear in 8.3s
320d - 184bhp, 280lb/ft, 146mph, 0-62mph in 7.5s, 50mph-75mph in 4th gear in 5.9s
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