RE: Lotus officially launches new 950hp plug-in hybrid
RE: Lotus officially launches new 950hp plug-in hybrid
Thursday 5th March

Lotus confirms 950hp plug-in hybrid for Europe

New Eletre X Hybrid might have a silly name in China, but with 880 miles of range, it claims to set a new benchmark


It seems like a very long time ago that Lotus proclaimed the Emira to be its last combustion-engined car, that the future was electric and the EV pairing of Emeya and Eletre were exactly the right cars at the right time. To be fair to them, lots of manufacturers made similarly misguided claims that they’re now furiously rowing back on; it’s just that Lotus began from a position of selling not many cars already. Adding new models that also didn’t prove popular was a real problem. 

Now, having been hinted at a couple of years ago, we have the first details of the Hyper Hybrid powertrain that aims to rejuvenate the success of both the EVs. The new 950hp model will be sold under a distinct ‘For Me’ brand in China, where it has already launched - though Lotus has since confirmed that the plug-in version will arrive in Europe in June as the Eletre X, sporting a 2.0-litre engine and a whopping great 70kWh battery. This isn’t so much an engine lent a hand by electricity as a huge battery with an internal combustion sidekick. For reference, a Porsche Cayenne Turbo E-Hybrid utilises a 25.9kWh battery; there are dedicated EVs that go a long way (think entry-level Polestar 2, with 344 miles from 70kWh) that have similar-sized batteries to the hybrid Lotus Eletre. 

So it’s a different take on the plug-in conundrum, that’s for sure. God knows what an SUV with both an engine and a battery sizeable enough for separate cars in their own right will weigh (an identical 2.6 tonnes to an Eletre R is claimed), but it does at least mean that the Lotus offers up range for days. Literal days, in fact, because there’s a maximum claim of 880 miles, which is enough to compete with your local cabbie’s Superb TDI. There’s no word yet on efficiency (don’t get your hopes up), though there will at least be no complaints about how far this electrified car can travel. You’d hope.

According Autocar's coverage, there are 220 EV miles available on the Chinese CLTC test, which is typically more generous than the WLTP score; expect something closer to 180 for the European homologation. Still another league from anything else comparable (the aforementioned Cayenne, for example, officially offers 42-45 miles WLTP Estimated All-Electric Range). Super duper charging ability through the 900 volt architecture should see 20 to 80 per cent replenished (the usual 10-80 figure hasn’t been published) in nine minutes.

The Lotus hybrid setup combines a pair of synchronous motors for each axle with a 2.0-litre turbo engine. While the latter sounds good for minimising weight, it’s hardly going to be a bastion of combustion-powered excitement against V8-powered rivals. Just look how performance-focused four-cylinder hybrids have fared already. Part of the reason some haven’t moved to EVs is the emotion of an engine, which doesn’t exactly seem guaranteed with a unit boasting half the capacity and cylinders of cars like the Urus and BMW XM. Both of which you can bet Lotus would like to steal some sales from. 

At any rate, the manufacturer is promising a full European specification - which includes outputs, charging performance and WLTP range - closer to its market-specific launch. And that name? Well, according to its latest missive, Eletre X is supposed to signify 'the convergence of electric performance, hybrid versatility and Lotus engineering purity.' Make of that what you will, but the 'next chapter' for the brand is expected to kick off customer deliveries by the end of the year. Excited? 


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BigChiefmuffinAgain

Original Poster:

1,574 posts

121 months

Wednesday 4th March
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I assume all that power and acceleration combined with all that weight means that slowing the thing down is no easy matter ?

When does so much power become too much power ?

Its Just Adz

17,776 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th March
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A 950bhp Lotus you say??
Sounds interesting.

Oh, it's a heavy SUV again.
Never mind.

ManyMotors

1,008 posts

121 months

Wednesday 4th March
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No doubt the 'For Me' engineers added lightness somewhere.....

996GT3_Matt

254 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th March
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Are the 13 x people who bought the OG entitled to a free upgrade? Oh sorry, it was 17 x people.

damonbill

252 posts

268 months

Wednesday 4th March
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950bhp is bonkers for this type of car but the chinease demand for a Hybrid with big electric range and small petrol engine IMO is the best solution for a family car: Most journies would be electric, but there is no range anxiety for a long journey, so it really would be the best of both worlds, 99% of the time. Other than weight, i dont see why more maufacturers dont offer this. Most (plug in) Hybrid ranges are around 50 miles, which isnt quite enough to cover most family duties.

This lotus is obvs an extreme interpretation of this but the new volvo xc70 is more in the sensible mould: 100 mile electic and 1.5l engine.

Edited by damonbill on Wednesday 4th March 16:22

deggles

676 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th March
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"Simplify and add lightness" confused

andrewpandrew

2,275 posts

12 months

Wednesday 4th March
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deggles said:
"Simplify and add lightness" confused
The philosophy of someone that died almost half a century ago...

Otispunkmeyer

13,573 posts

178 months

Wednesday 4th March
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80 kWh battery in a hybrid.... why?

And combined with what will probably be a nasty sounding 4-pot.

dross.

crofty1984

16,863 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th March
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Lotus already had this sorted over a 15 years ago with their 3-cylinder range-extender engine. Proton messed up the productionisation of it back then and canned the job. I want Lotus to do well but they're their own worst enemy at times.

budgie smuggler

5,937 posts

182 months

Wednesday 4th March
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Otispunkmeyer said:
80 kWh battery in a hybrid.... why?

And combined with what will probably be a nasty sounding 4-pot.

dross.
I presume because you can then do most of your driving using the battery, and use the ICE as a range extender on the motorway for long journeys.

The range is approx 180 miles on electric only, but nearly 900 miles if you add the ICE. It would be a good car to use for drives into Europe where you can sit for 130KPH for hours on end with minimal traffic (which is ideal for an ICE efficiency but kills range on a BEV).


Edited by budgie smuggler on Wednesday 4th March 16:54

AmyRichardson

1,886 posts

65 months

Wednesday 4th March
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I'd guess it's a toned-down version of the Zeekr9 powertrain, so 275hp ICE; a bit more than a range-extender but the EV part is definitely providing the performance...

CatScan

213 posts

172 months

Wednesday 4th March
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I know this is a 2575kg Lotus, which is the opposite of adding lightness etc etc BUT...

This is a 5.1m long 2.6 tonne SUV, with an engine (albeit a small one), an 80kWh battery, and 950 hp.

That's a similar weight to:
Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid / Lamborghini Urus SE (smaller cars, bigger engines, much smaller batteries, over 100hp less, about 100 kg less)
Range Rover Sport SV (smaller car, bigger engine, no battery or electric motors, 15 kg less)

A Merc EQS SUV 580 is about 400kg heavier, has 400 less hp, a 50% bigger battery, and no range extender.

I guess what I'm saying is, this is the Lotus of big fat heavily electrified SUVs.

uktrailmonster

9,853 posts

223 months

Wednesday 4th March
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This is an extreme niche case for UK driving. I would much prefer the pure EV 600 hp version. It’s got enough range for nearly anyone (200-250 ish miles real world) with home charging who doesn’t live 800 miles from the nearest rapid charger. It’s not like they charge slowly either. The 900 hp pure EV version has a much more compromised range, but it doesn’t really need 900 hp!

Frimley111R

18,398 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th March
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andrewpandrew said:
deggles said:
"Simplify and add lightness" confused
The philosophy of someone that died almost half a century ago...

Yup, but some people prefer to live in the past.

Wheel Turned Out

2,130 posts

61 months

Wednesday 4th March
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andrewpandrew said:
deggles said:
"Simplify and add lightness" confused
The philosophy of someone that died almost half a century ago...
And?

Given how bloated these awful beasts are it should influence the philosophy of those living a bit now, too.

Water Fairy

6,434 posts

178 months

Wednesday 4th March
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
When does so much power become too much power ?
Some time ago imho

Clad-Hach

240 posts

11 months

Wednesday 4th March
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A new Lotus that'll be lovely...oh wait I've just seen the photo..!!!

napistonheads

108 posts

86 months

Wednesday 4th March
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No mention of price? Could further crater residuals on the full EV. 950bhp family car with 800 mile range, don’t need the range or that much power but would always take more of both if offered. Like it a lot.

Frimley111R

18,398 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th March
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Wheel Turned Out said:
andrewpandrew said:
deggles said:
"Simplify and add lightness" confused
The philosophy of someone that died almost half a century ago...
And?

Given how bloated these awful beasts are it should influence the philosophy of those living a bit now, too.
You do realise that this was a racing car philosophy too? Nothing to do with road cars of the same time?

plfrench

4,251 posts

291 months

Wednesday 4th March
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I d be surprised if they do actually bring this to the UK market. It just doesn t feel like anyone would buy it with our BIK tax position for PHEVs now for company car or SS purchases.

Edited by plfrench on Wednesday 4th March 20:07