RE: Scarily affordable V12 heroes | Six of the Best

RE: Scarily affordable V12 heroes | Six of the Best

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Scarily affordable V12 heroes | Six of the Best

New V12s are very hard to come by, disappointingly; thank goodness for the classifieds...


Ferrari 456 M GTA, 2001, 36k, £42,500

The V12 should be a rite of passage for any PHer. Granted, it’s far from the easiest one to tick off, given how much engine there is to maintain and the sheer opulence of the layout. V12s only really come in luxurious, expensive, complex cars - and in a fashion that, say, a V6 or V8 isn’t guaranteed to. Nevertheless, it’s possible to purchase a classic V12 icon for the price of a new hot hatch, and a lot less in some cases. We’ll leave discussion of the various running costs to the forum thread. Regardless of that outcome, the Ferrari 456 remains, with its uglier 400/412 predecessor, the most affordable way into Maranello V12 ownership. Potentially this is all the persuasion that might be required: that badge, that engine, with the added bonus of Pininfarina design on top. The spec of this one is a bit sombre, but the condition is lovely and the cambelt is fairly recent. Time to get grand touring.

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Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Volante, 2003, 13k, PH Auction

Though at a slightly lower price point, both 20-odd years ago and now, the Aston DB7 Vantage is a contemporary of the Ferrari that boasts much the same appeal. The design, launched in the '90s and lasting a couple of years into the 21st century, was a knockout. Still is. The V12 engine relied on a whole lotta capacity (5.4 litres in the Ferrari, 5.9 in the Aston) for more than 400hp - and for covering great distances in some style, they’d both take some beating. This Vantage Volante, live on PH Auctions from next week, is notable for a few reasons, the first being that it’s one of the very last made: it’s a 2003 ‘53’ plate, with the DB9 appearing in 2004. Moreover, it’s covered just 13,000 miles since then, and the current owner has loved it for almost a decade. The colours are perfect, the condition impeccable and the scope for a wonderful time almost limitless.

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Bentley Continental GTC, 2007, 68k, £24,500

Alright, so a Bentley Continental GT is technically a W12 rather than a conventional V12, but with so much of the appeal - power, torque, effortlessness - shared between the layouts, the big W deserves inclusion. Not least because there’d be a whole heap fewer 12-cylinder cars for sale without Bentley’s 21st-century talisman. Crewe churned out more than 100,000 of the 6.0-litres since the early '00s, from early Continental GTs right up to Baturs, all with at least 550hp. And now from as little as £10,000 - not hard to see why it might be a car ownership box you’d think about ticking off. This Continental GTC is only a World Cup cycle older than the DB7, but could have come from a different century with its paddles, screens and flush-fitting roof. With performance of a different magnitude, too, thanks to the pair of turbos. This one is said to boast a full history, and comes with a CarPlay-enabled head unit. Smart. 

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Jaguar XJS V12, 1991, 51k, £12,495

Proof that cheap V12s most certainly do exist, for those feeling courageous. Plenty is known now about the various pitfalls associated with Jaguar XJS ownership, particularly the V12, but for those that aren’t aware the best thing to do is look at an underbonnet shot. The XJS 5.3’s must be a contender for busiest engine bay ever, with pipes, hoses and lines just about everywhere. So diagnosing and fixing issues might be time-consuming. On the other hand, specialists will know these things inside and out 30 years after the last one was made, and with values having bottomed out ages ago you’d like to think it’s mostly keepers left out there. This one lived its first quarter century in Japan, and has still covered just 51,000 miles; a single owner here has spent £23,000 on its upkeep, and it’s now for sale at little more than half that. Expect to join the back of a very tempted queue. 

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BMW 850i, 1991, 134k, £27,500

Talk about a clash of eras. By 1991 the Jag was approaching both its final facelift and the end of its life, launched in 1976 and soldering on well into the '90s; by contrast, the BMW E31 8 Series had gone on sale just the year before, tasked with moving the BMW coupe further upmarket from the 6 Series and boasting such space-age tech as drive-by-wire throttle, electronic damper control and even speed-sensitive power steering. Two more different V12 coupes from 1991 it’s hard to imagine - yep, that 850 really is on an H-plate - but then that’s the joy of the classifieds. The appeal of this one extends beyond the red and the oh-so-'90s wheels, too, as there’s a great sheaf of paperwork with it, the leather still looks in fab condition, and the pop-up lights work. With a 5.0-litre, 300hp V12, for less than £30,000. What more do you need to know?

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Mercedes S65 AMG, 2016, 65k, £39,948

No list of great V12s for little money would be complete without a savagely depreciated ‘bahnstormer. There’s little more tempting than a large, fast, lavishly equipped four-door that’s as adept on the motorway as it is on the school run - and is now a fraction of its new price. The Germans are masters of this particular niche, and when it comes to huge engines in huge cars it’s typically hard to beat Mercedes-AMG. Not so long ago the 6.0-litre, twin-turbo V12 went in a host of ‘65 models, with more than 600hp and 700lb ft, until it was deemed a tad OTT even by Affalterbach standards. Back in 2016 this palatial long-wheelbase S-Class would have cost its first owner more than £160,000, easily. It’s now available for something like a quarter of that, complete with Burmester sound, pillows for headrests, acres of wood veneer and yards of legroom. Plus more tyre-melting V12 muscle than anyone could ever realistically need. 

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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

36,442 posts

193 months

Yesterday (01:19)
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That is such a heavenly list for me. Top drawer all day long in my view.

Master Bean

4,364 posts

133 months

Yesterday (01:54)
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I'd take the Ferrari because it's a Ferrari but I like those 3 valve Mercedes' for some peculiar reason.

Bencolem

1,121 posts

252 months

Yesterday (01:59)
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I remember when an 850ci like that would have been £3,000.

You’d never catch me spending nearly £30k on one.

But then I’d happily spend £50k on an 850csi…

TREMAiNE

4,071 posts

162 months

Yesterday (02:03)
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I would want the Ferrari but one service in the last 12 years isn't very reassuring, even if the mileage has been minimal.

I wonder if you could run it for 6 months and shift it on before any big bills kick in.

A V12 Ferrari has always been my ultimate dream with the chances of ownership getting slimmer and slimmer every year but the 456 is still within reach!

Quhet

2,638 posts

159 months

Yesterday (02:24)
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That ferrari would be perfect but I just couldn't live with that grey interior so I'll have the DB7 instead please!

M138

433 posts

4 months

Yesterday (04:31)
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That Aston looks nice unlike that Merc which looks mundane.

S600BSB

6,447 posts

119 months

Yesterday (04:46)
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Great list.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,308 posts

156 months

Yesterday (06:17)
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No manual? Had a quick browse and certainly similar Ferraris and Astons are available in the classifieds with a manual and V12. That’s where my money would go.

Tango13

9,404 posts

189 months

Yesterday (06:37)
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This is a good read and a much cheaper way to get your V12 fix.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/V12-Engine-technology-per...

NickGS

17 posts

24 months

Yesterday (06:53)
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I was surprised by the use of the word "ugly" for the Ferrari 400. Could the writer not use a word like "unique" or "special."

Galsia

2,223 posts

203 months

Yesterday (06:58)
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I’d love a 456 but I’ve heard that they have running costs to make a Saudi Prince blush.

I’d highly recommend watching the videos about the 456 on Tyrell’s Workshop on YouTube. The man knows his stuff about them and is a pleasant watch to boot.

Rat_Fink_67

2,632 posts

219 months

Yesterday (07:12)
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S65 please cloud9

That's a whole lot of car for £40k!

ducnick

2,021 posts

256 months

Yesterday (07:34)
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I would love a 456 (in a better colour scheme), but the running costs are astronomical. On the list I think the jag might be the sensible option. Low running costs and zero chance of depreciation

Alpenus

203 posts

43 months

Yesterday (07:46)
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S65 for me the starter motor noise and following bark into life on a crisp morning is one of life’s great moments

hammo19

6,261 posts

209 months

Yesterday (08:00)
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I’ve ticked the Bentley box. It was a bank account nightmare. I used my brothers DB7 for a while which was nice. I would love the 456, my Ferrari of choice after the 250, but I fear I would be in another GTC stranglehold.

Krikkit

27,341 posts

194 months

Yesterday (08:02)
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"V12 Heroes" - pick a W12.

J4CKO

44,058 posts

213 months

Yesterday (08:04)
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Can get a W12 a lot cheaper than that if so inclined, cheaper to buy anyway.

GordonGekko

246 posts

102 months

Yesterday (08:11)
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Galsia said:
I’d love a 456 but I’ve heard that they have running costs to make a Saudi Prince blush.

I’d highly recommend watching the videos about the 456 on Tyrell’s Workshop on YouTube. The man knows his stuff about them and is a pleasant watch to boot.
There is a substantial amount of clickbait exaggeration regarding the 456. The 456 I had was amazing to drive; pretty to look at; was very reasonable to look after, and would still be pulling hard through 160mph.

Highly recommended

AC43

12,523 posts

221 months

Yesterday (08:16)
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S65 all day long.

Although I'd have to replace all that wood. How do the Germans always get it so wrong? I'd have it redone in piano black.

fflump

2,214 posts

51 months

Yesterday (08:30)
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GordonGekko said:
Galsia said:
I’d love a 456 but I’ve heard that they have running costs to make a Saudi Prince blush.

I’d highly recommend watching the videos about the 456 on Tyrell’s Workshop on YouTube. The man knows his stuff about them and is a pleasant watch to boot.
There is a substantial amount of clickbait exaggeration regarding the 456. The 456 I had was amazing to drive; pretty to look at; was very reasonable to look after, and would still be pulling hard through 160mph.

Highly recommended
The 456 definitely has it for me though in a different colour interior and I’d definitely hold out for a manual. Good to hear from an actual owner- it’s a car I lusted after as a youngster when it came out and is on my bucket list once the kids leave home. My local specialist maintains a few and is very honest about costs and feels they are similar to an Aston Martin and far from ruinous.