RE: McLaren MP4-12C | Spotted

RE: McLaren MP4-12C | Spotted

Tuesday 20th May

McLaren MP4-12C | Spotted

Is it just us, or has the first car built by McLaren Automotive finally come into its own?


The MP4-12C is one of those cars that tends to split opinions. Some of this split is to do with its place in history: it was first, and therefore imperfect, and people held its imperfections against it. But the first guy through the wall always gets bloody; McLaren learned its lessons on the fly. The rest of the naysayers tend to think (or have heard secondhand) that the car is fundamentally unreliable and very expensive to fix. Clearly, there is no smoke without some fire in either regard, but generally speaking, the 12C is considered within the acknowledged margins for an exotically engineered, mid-engined supercar. Is it cheap to run? No. 

Is it cheap to buy? Well, it has certainly rebounded from a period where it seemed like prices might dip under £70k and keep descending. Now the good ones have stabilised and even begun to gently appreciate. As ever, there are a number of factors at play there, not least heightened demand based on the realisation of just how much supercar you’re getting for the money - but also (much like other direct rivals from its era) there is likely a growing appreciation for the kind of analogue appeal that high-end manufacturers have been forced to walk away from.

It also does the 12C no harm that its design, once chastised for being too anodyne, appears now to have delivered that rare thing: a straightforwardly good-looking car. One well-sized for UK roads, too. Moreover, this 2014 example in McLaren Orange (what else?) arguably represents the sweet spot in 12C development. By this point, McLaren had addressed early niggles and boosted its output from the twin-turbo 3.8-litre V8 to 625hp – good for 0-62mph in just 3.1 seconds and a top speed of 207mph. In short, no supercar built since is ever going to embarrass you in a straight line. 

And not in the corners either. McLaren may have significantly improved on the 12C’s hydraulically actuated ProActive Chassis Control system, but its combination of superlative body control with beguiling ride quality remains familiar and established many of the hallmarks of the brand - as did the steering. While it’s also true that the car didn’t slide with the nonchalant elan of a Ferrari 458, it did pretty much everything you could ask of it up to that point, and in sufficient quantities for you to never question where all your money had gone. 

The amount of money asked for this one is £74,995, befitting an almost blemish-free MOT record and service history, if not perhaps the 43k accrued on the odometer. That said, unless you’re looking for a 12C to complete a museum-grade McLaren collection, it doesn’t necessarily lend itself to garage queen status - better, surely, to buy one that has been used and consistently attended to for the past decade. This one is said to have all its stamps and is clearly well-known to the vendor. The spec looks decent, too. 

So is now a good time to buy? Perhaps. That you’ll save around £35k compared with a similarly well-used 458 will come as a shock to precisely no one, just as you won’t need reminding that a 12C delivers considerably more bang-per-buck than a slightly newer, high-spec 991 would for the same money. Both those things have been true for what seems like forever. But it’s also perfectly plausible that, a decade on from its demise, McLaren’s opening salvo - the model developed while Ron Dennis retained his iron grip on every detail and a world away from the compromises of electrification - has finally found its time to shine.


SPECIFICATION | MCLAREN MP4-12C

Engine: 3,799cc, V8 twin-turbo
Transmission: seven-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 625@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 442@3,000-7,000rpm
MPG: 24.1
CO2: 279g/km
First registered: 2014
Recorded mileage: 43,000 miles
Price new: £168,500
Price now: £74,995

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British Beef

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2,477 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Oustanding value, assuming nothing breaks or you have a platinum warranty.... but then same can be said of all 2nd hand supercars.

The price of these seems to have bottomoed out around £70k, with newer 570S around the same and early 720s now just over £100k, I wonder which represents better VFM as an ownership proposition.

theicemario

1,085 posts

88 months

Tuesday 20th May
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P1 aside, best looking car they've made, in possibly the best colour. Love it.

Crying out for some silver wheels though getmecoat

Dombilano

1,300 posts

68 months

Tuesday 20th May
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So nice to see a supercar that's actually been used, but I'd still prefer a 458 Italia based on looks alone

Hoofy

78,389 posts

295 months

Tuesday 20th May
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I was monitoring prices through 2024, and saw one or two for sale at £60k on AT. Well, according to my spreadsheet (don't judge), £59950.

bloomen

8,322 posts

172 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Still the most desirable modern Mclaren for me. It looks 'right' through and through.

BFleming

3,837 posts

156 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Running a MP4-12C would be an adventure I'd guess. A 540 can be had for the same money; that's probably what I'd do.

Gecko1978

11,176 posts

170 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Well used price seems maybe a bit high but there are so few for sale hard to know. The 540 and 570 were the volume sellers I guess.

These if reliable would make a great super car for summer without breaking the bank

GTRene

18,774 posts

237 months

Tuesday 20th May
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a MP4-12C or a 540 or a 570 choices choices...

although no manuals and turning circle more then 12 meters I think it was?

to much for say how my garage is located next to a small street, you then need many more inputs.

BFleming

3,837 posts

156 months

Tuesday 20th May
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GTRene said:
although no manuals...
Yes indeed - and the 12C gearbox isn't the strongest.

CH80

111 posts

10 months

Tuesday 20th May
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They are aging quite nicely

asci.white

468 posts

86 months

Tuesday 20th May
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theicemario said:
P1 aside, best looking car they've made, in possibly the best colour. Love it.

Crying out for some silver wheels though getmecoat
Agreed. They got the shape spot on.

jmcc500

659 posts

231 months

Tuesday 20th May
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I was fortunate enough to work on the 12C, briefly, during development. Highlights were a 2-day test trip to the Alps after which I was asked if I could deliver the car from Tignes back to Woking solo. Dropped a colleague at Geneva at 07:30 and got to Woking at midnight Lovely drive, great lunch in Bourg-en-Bresse, though the Paris peripherique in the rush hour was stressful, and the car not having funcitoning locks or requiring a key meant that I had to leave it 'exposed' for rest breaks.

The other that sticks in the mind was a couple of weeks at Yucca proving ground in Arizona. Repeated launch control starts to check thermal models were good was fun if nauseating. Coming alongside a GTR in Lake Havasu City felt like a perfect opportunity for a drag race against what was the only thing that was close on performance at the time but sadly the GTR driver was more sensible than me biggrin

Superb cars, not driven anything newer of that ilk so I still find it hard to imagine how good the current products are as the ride, performance and handling were all superb even on XP cars with bits of disguise and some trim issues - PPs were truly lovely. I would be scared of things going wrong but otherwise a lot of car for the money (and values seem to have been stable for a while so perhaps they will start to creep up?)

stuart100

853 posts

70 months

Tuesday 20th May
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I think these are pretty reliable compared to most peoples' perceptions. Maccas have such a bad name due to when something releatively simple when wrong Mclaren dealers wanted to fit a whole new engine/suspension etc. But the independents understand them much better and can help keep costs down. Harry Metcalfe has a 650s and covered this.

isaldiri

21,617 posts

181 months

Tuesday 20th May
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stuart100 said:
I think these are pretty reliable compared to most peoples' perceptions. Maccas have such a bad name due to when something releatively simple when wrong Mclaren dealers wanted to fit a whole new engine/suspension etc. But the independents understand them much better and can help keep costs down. Harry Metcalfe has a 650s and covered this.
It's hard to shake first impressions. unfortunately for Mclaren, a whole spate of new cars did have a lot of problems initially which lasted quite a bit longer than one might have thought given the impression Mclaren like to give of themselves. Subsequent cars (not facelifted ones like the 650 but the GT or the 5 series cars) also had a rather large number of teething issues - all of which added to the well known early 12c issues. It's a shame because when the car works, it's a brilliantly capable sports car that is able to switch modes to a comfortable distance cruncher if needed but Mclaren's determination to churn out cars in ever larger numbers before they were really ready to do so all those years ago has left a poor first impression that has proven difficult to leave behind.

WCZ

11,033 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th May
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would be interesting to see if anyone is actually faster on the road in any of the newer mclarens

Robertb

2,642 posts

251 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Never mind the 0-60, its the 0-100mpg in 6.3 secs that is the bullet.

V Engineering are a well-regarded specialist, which bodes well if they've looked after this one.

This car is showing as sold on their website.


isaldiri

21,617 posts

181 months

Tuesday 20th May
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WCZ said:
would be interesting to see if anyone is actually faster on the road in any of the newer mclarens
er... you were long ago limited by just how much speed you are willing to risk on the road rather than by absolute car performance....

and if you were really wondering, the 720 is much faster on the road than the 12c/650 if you weren't bothered about getting locked up with the key thrown away.

Byker28i

73,052 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th May
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I've always liked the look of these. One stood out at supercarfest this weekend for me. I'd have the Volcano red though

Motormouth88

548 posts

73 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Sweet spot for McLaren design imo, before the stupid bug eyed aesthetic

JJ77

318 posts

61 months

Tuesday 20th May
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Just you. Bland looking in 2011 still bland looking in 2025, you could put a Lotus Badge on that. 650s was a huge improvement in every way, and finally got it right at 675 LT.