RE: Toyota announces dealer fit GR Yaris upgrade

RE: Toyota announces dealer fit GR Yaris upgrade

Wednesday 7th May

Toyota announces dealer fit GR Yaris upgrade

£995 software fettle brings more torque, new modes, keeps warranty 


Better late than never and all that. After four years of the aftermarket desperately trying to sate customer demand for wilder Yaris GRs, from big turbos to sequential gearboxes, Toyota is to offer Gen1 GR customers a dealer-fit, fully warrantied software upgrade. It isn’t one for those after huge gains, but looks like a nice concession for those who were unable to get a Gen2 (or couldn’t justify the price hike). 

It’s been emailed to customers (thanks ecsrobin for the heads up), pitched as a ‘software update not to be ignored.’ For £995, the while-you-wait update brings another 14lb of torque - from 266lb ft to 280lb ft - bringing the original much closer to the 288lb ft Gen2 in terms of pulling power. It also offers up more configurability from the rest of the package, with Light and Heavy steering modes offered as well as Original, Quick and Control throttle ‘personalised throttle settings’. Presumably quite a lot has been directly translated from the Japanese release, a market that has had this upgrade available for a while. 

It sounds like there are even more possibilities with the GR-FOUR all-wheel drive introduced also, with 55:45 and 45:55 mentioned alongside the default 60:40, Track that split it equally and 30:70 in Sport. ‘Born directly from our participation in motorsports’, reads the email, which has long been the promise of Gazoo Racing road cars, ‘the upgrade delivers more engine torque for enhanced driveability and more personalised driver settings, letting you tailor your car’s handling and controls to your driving style.’ Whether you’ll be able to tell the difference between a 60:40 torque split and a 55:45 one remains to be seen, of course, but dealer fit, manufacturer backed performance upgrades sound like great news to us. It’s almost like the good old days of Mountune fast Fords. 

The GR Yaris warranty is unaffected, and CO2 is unchanged as well. According to our forum intel, the package is going to be offered at 10 GR centres from next week. We’ll do some digging to find out exactly what’s what - and hopefully drive an upgraded car too, of course. This news surely makes those £25k early cars look all the more alluring…


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simonrockman

Original Poster:

6,955 posts

268 months

Wednesday 7th May
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Should software updates be chargeable? I wonder when the mobile phone manufacturers will cotton on to this and start charging for iOS or Android updates.

Unreal

6,714 posts

38 months

Wednesday 7th May
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simonrockman said:
Should software updates be chargeable? I wonder when the mobile phone manufacturers will cotton on to this and start charging for iOS or Android updates.
Updates no, upgrades yes.

Evil.soup

3,840 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th May
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I want one of these so much, it is the only car that has come close to tempting me out of my Impreza.

As for charged software updates, I think this is different to mobile providers. Mobile provides have to offer a level of ongoing service to maintain customer loyalty, so it is in their best interests to make sure their systems work well.

This GR upgrade is just if you fancy it, the original car doesn't need it and will function as normal until the tin worm has eaten it or something has blown up, it doesn't need a software update so it is chargeable, at least that is how I see things.

Mind you, just look at manufacturers now charging subscription for heated seats etc...

findlay_MX

121 posts

211 months

Wednesday 7th May
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A bag of sand sounds like quite a lot of cash for 14lb/ft and tiny tweaks to drive modes. As a S1 GRY owner I don't think I'll bother, thanks. OK it retains the OEM warranty but Litchfield offer a whole lot more go for a fraction less dough (and still cover the engine warranty for 12 months)

Edited by findlay_MX on Wednesday 7th May 10:46

pb8g09

2,788 posts

82 months

Wednesday 7th May
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For me I’d rather this and the upgrade than the interior on the gen2.

JJJ.

2,527 posts

28 months

Wednesday 7th May
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findlay_MX said:
A bag of sand sounds like quite a lot of cash for 14lb/ft and tiny tweaks to drive modes. As a S1 GRY owner I don't think I'll bother, thanks. OK it retains the OEM warranty but Litchfield offer a whole lot more go for a fraction less dough (and still cover the engine warranty for 12 months)

Edited by findlay_MX on Wednesday 7th May 10:46
I wouldn't jump to any real conclusions just yet. Max torque or max BHP is never telling the full story. PH has really scant info and the proof in this upgrade will be in the driving, I'd suggest.

Konan

2,063 posts

159 months

Wednesday 7th May
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simonrockman said:
Should software updates be chargeable? I wonder when the mobile phone manufacturers will cotton on to this and start charging for iOS or Android updates.
Apple update their software in order to drive older hardware into obsolescence and drive sales of new handsets.

Android is (sort of) FOSS.

RaineyDays

264 posts

113 months

Wednesday 7th May
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Assuming insurance would class this as a modification for those with standard cars.

Unreal

6,714 posts

38 months

Wednesday 7th May
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RaineyDays said:
Assuming insurance would class this as a modification for those with standard cars.
Good question. I doubt it would overly concern most insurers as it isn't transforming performance and being invisible isn't going to attract thieves. The fact that it's a factory upgrade would also reassure them. In any event, I suspect any insurance premium increase would be peanuts for the average owner.

British Beef

2,477 posts

178 months

Wednesday 7th May
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Paying £1k for this upgrade with marginal gains seems like a total waste of money to me, unless driven back to back or timed on track, you will not tell the difference.

I sold mine, as ultimately found it boring, lacking that sparkle that makes me want to drive and own a car.

It was fast, and capable, but ultimately unless you were on it on track or back road giving it 9/10 just not fun.


ecsrobin

18,128 posts

178 months

Wednesday 7th May
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JJJ. said:
I wouldn't jump to any real conclusions just yet. Max torque or max BHP is never telling the full story. PH has really scant info and the proof in this upgrade will be in the driving, I'd suggest.
They have all the info. This upgrade has been available in Japan for a couple of years and Germany for the last 6 months (on 300 cars as a special edition).

You can read the Official Toyota information using your browsers translate button although the torque figures are 10nm down due to GPF on EU cars. https://toyotagazooracing.com/jp/gr/yaris/2020mode...

Just need to find the Japanese or German reviews.

This I suspect will appeal to those who like the warranty over driving the car.

Dingu

4,883 posts

43 months

Wednesday 7th May
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Konan said:
simonrockman said:
Should software updates be chargeable? I wonder when the mobile phone manufacturers will cotton on to this and start charging for iOS or Android updates.
Apple update their software in order to drive older hardware into obsolescence and drive sales of new handsets.

Android is (sort of) FOSS.
Not really true though is it?

Konan

2,063 posts

159 months

Wednesday 7th May
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Dingu said:
Konan said:
simonrockman said:
Should software updates be chargeable? I wonder when the mobile phone manufacturers will cotton on to this and start charging for iOS or Android updates.
Apple update their software in order to drive older hardware into obsolescence and drive sales of new handsets.

Android is (sort of) FOSS.
Not really true though is it?
Yes, it's broadly true.

martin12345

740 posts

102 months

Wednesday 7th May
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From my experience of driving my car at Track Days, most people would be best off spending their £1000 on some driver instruction than on this software upgrade and would find far more lap time

My experience is that the car is at its best in the 50/50 setting and then you just get on with driving it and maximising what is available

Having 27 options of torque distribution, throttle gain and steering effort is going to deliver you diddly squat compared to just driving what you have better and the torque increase is of marginal benefit as the engine spends almost all of its time between 4000 and 7000 RPM on track

I shalln't be investing £1000 in this, I'll spend it on more tyres and brake pads personally !

Dingu

4,883 posts

43 months

Wednesday 7th May
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Konan said:
Dingu said:
Konan said:
simonrockman said:
Should software updates be chargeable? I wonder when the mobile phone manufacturers will cotton on to this and start charging for iOS or Android updates.
Apple update their software in order to drive older hardware into obsolescence and drive sales of new handsets.

Android is (sort of) FOSS.
Not really true though is it?
Yes, it's broadly true.
It simply isn’t.

They update their software to fix security issues (you would be wailing if they didn’t) and to roll out new features.

Naturally they will develop more powerful software to match the latest handsets and older phones will struggle with that more. That isn’t controversial.

You can always choose not to apply the update and at some point the latest updates aren’t available to the older tech as they can’t handle it, if the object was to render them obsolete they would keep allowing updates. You can still use them though. The idea that there is deliberate action to render them obsolete is tinfoil hattery of the highest order.

I’ve happily typed this on a 5 year old iPhone with the latest software update. It runs perfects adequately.

E38

726 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th May
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Is the "personalised" throttle and steering going to be selectable in a menu (dash or instrument panel), or only selectable once at the dealer?

If the former, this sounds interesting. If the latter, given this is software and not hardware changes, this is rubbish.

ecsrobin

18,128 posts

178 months

Wednesday 7th May
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martin12345 said:
From my experience of driving my car at Track Days, most people would be best off spending their £1000 on some driver instruction than on this software upgrade and would find far more lap time

My experience is that the car is at its best in the 50/50 setting and then you just get on with driving it and maximising what is available

Having 27 options of torque distribution, throttle gain and steering effort is going to deliver you diddly squat compared to just driving what you have better and the torque increase is of marginal benefit as the engine spends almost all of its time between 4000 and 7000 RPM on track

I shalln't be investing £1000 in this, I'll spend it on more tyres and brake pads personally !
This is clearly aimed at those not tracking and using the cars but those who garage and clean it whilst worrying about a warranty.

Track use is excluded on the extended warranty so for those that want to go quicker can just get a proper remap.

fantheman80

1,887 posts

62 months

Wednesday 7th May
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I applaud Toyota for this after sales upgrades and options for owners - i knew leccy cars would do this, but an OEM on an ICE motor is rare, ford and mountune aside

I think £995 is strong, and a lot of of profit in there seeing as a tech just plugs in a laptop, but as some don't like the indie remaps and want to keep warranty, I think many will go for it.

JJJ.

2,527 posts

28 months

Wednesday 7th May
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ecsrobin said:
JJJ. said:
I wouldn't jump to any real conclusions just yet. Max torque or max BHP is never telling the full story. PH has really scant info and the proof in this upgrade will be in the driving, I'd suggest.
They have all the info. This upgrade has been available in Japan for a couple of years and Germany for the last 6 months (on 300 cars as a special edition).

You can read the Official Toyota information using your browsers translate button although the torque figures are 10nm down due to GPF on EU cars. https://toyotagazooracing.com/jp/gr/yaris/2020mode...

Just need to find the Japanese or German reviews.

This I suspect will appeal to those who like the warranty over driving the car.
Anyone on here driven the car with it yet? Surely, that will be the decider.

Jon_S_Rally

3,906 posts

101 months

Wednesday 7th May
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ecsrobin said:
This is clearly aimed at those not tracking and using the cars but those who garage and clean it whilst worrying about a warranty.

Track use is excluded on the extended warranty so for those that want to go quicker can just get a proper remap.
What are you talking about?

It's a minor upgrade that will appeal to owners that want to personalise their cars a bit without voiding the Toyota warranty. It's as simple as that. There is no need to make aspersions about people just because it's not the route you would go down yourself. Choice is a good thing.

We should be thankful that Toyota are offering these options given that most manufacturers are shying away from producing cars for enthusiasts.