End of the Ponderosa
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Earthdweller

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16,113 posts

142 months

Tuesday 11th March
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https://wrexham.com/news/ponderosa-popular-horsesh...

A regular and very popular stop for both two and four wheeled petrol heads on the Horseshoe pass in North Wales to permanently close its doors after 42 years

Very sad news

"The café, located on the A542 between Ruthin and Llangollen, has long been a popular stop for motorcyclists and tourists, offering stunning views and a welcoming atmosphere.

There has also been frustration about changes to the local area.

“The state of some of the roads, average speed cameras and reduced speed limits have ruined driving that area unfortunately,” one customer said.

Another wrote, “I’m sure the enforced speed limits played no small part in crippling a thriving and popular business.”




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Alex Z

1,799 posts

92 months

Tuesday 11th March
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I’ve seen comments about how the building needed expensive repairs as the cause, plus others blaming the changes to minimum wage and NI.

If the owners have run it for that long it may just be that they wanted to retire..?

Hol

9,084 posts

216 months

Tuesday 11th March
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I’d like to think that this was the result of unintended consequences, but I wonder if removing the cafe was a planned outcome of the council.

It’s sad though as that was a great road.

AlexGSi2000

529 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th March
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Sad news, Its been quite a hub for many years.

I live around 40 miles away, its always been a great meeting point.
Was always good to have a good walkaround on a sunny weekend, have met some interesting people and had a few good chats there over the years.

I can understand the challenges though, seasonal business, overheads.etc
Would be good if the location could remain as a meeting point for us petrolheads though, Im secretly hoping someone else may take it on, North West branch for Caffeine & Machine?

Edited by AlexGSi2000 on Tuesday 11th March 09:14

Om

2,067 posts

94 months

Tuesday 11th March
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AlexGSi2000 said:
Would be good if the location could remain as a meeting point for us petrolheads though, Im secretly hoping someone else may take it on, North West branch for Caffeine & Machine?
That would be ideal. It is close enough to the border to get people travelling from the NW as well as from N Wales and it is in a beatiful location. There are a few 'competing' event locations, but nothing massive. Its main problem is that it is still a bit of a trip and in a spot that can be a little bleak so out of season could struggle unless it became a go-to location like Caffeine and Machine.

supacool1

698 posts

195 months

Tuesday 11th March
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Damm....We had a feeling it wouldn't be long before they closed. We visited it a few times when doing North Wales trips on the bikes and cars. Last time we were there the gift shop was closed and it was mostly empty on the inside. There weren't many patrons for a weekend-but it was very foggy up there.

It's a real shame as I really wanted a bigger sweatshirt with the Pondersoa logo on it. My current one is a little shrunk....

Andy665

3,964 posts

244 months

Tuesday 11th March
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I have frequented the Ponderosa for a good few years on an all year round basis. It was sometimes a meeting point, sometimes a stopping point and also often a destination in itself.

Such a shame its time has come to an end, have to find an alternative now, the Loch Side cafe in Bala is not too bad if not a chunk of distance further out

littleredrooster

5,957 posts

212 months

Tuesday 11th March
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Gone the same way as the Hartside Cafe.

NomadicTurbo

1,020 posts

90 months

Tuesday 11th March
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Om said:
There are a few 'competing' event locations, but nothing massive.
Interested to hear about the others as I used to live locally but have moved out to Cheshire now but always looking for places to stop whilst out on a drive

Andy665

3,964 posts

244 months

Tuesday 11th March
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I organise 6-7 driving days out per year around North and Mid Wales, only half decent places I have found are the car park at Bala, nice lakeside location and with reasonable food / drinks available and usually decent amount of parking and the Rhug Estate on the A5 in Corwen

Castrol for a knave

6,138 posts

107 months

Tuesday 11th March
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One of my regular destinations. It's a real shame - food was greasy as hell, but all the better for it.

I think the speed limits thing is a red herring. Last 2 times I headed up there were crashes., One was a serious head on as some lad overtook on the descent to Llangollen, the other a bike and car.


RESSE

5,888 posts

237 months

Tuesday 11th March
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Castrol for a knave said:
One of my regular destinations. It's a real shame - food was greasy as hell, but all the better for it.

I think the speed limits thing is a red herring. Last 2 times I headed up there were crashes., One was a serious head on as some lad overtook on the descent to Llangollen, the other a bike and car.
Same for me (regular destination for early morning drives and my dog loved the sausage rolls). I haven’t been to the cafe at Bala so a timely reminder to explore.

Om

2,067 posts

94 months

Tuesday 11th March
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NomadicTurbo said:
Om said:
There are a few 'competing' event locations, but nothing massive.
Interested to hear about the others as I used to live locally but have moved out to Cheshire now but always looking for places to stop whilst out on a drive
I was thinking mainly of regular summer cars and coffee meets such as the cars and coffee on the prom at Rhos on Sea and Pensarn Beach (1st and 3rd Sundays), a new one at Llanfairfechan Beach (2nd Sunday), Criccieth Cars and Coffee (2nd Sunday), Anglesey cars and coffee (final Sunday at Tacla Taid) or the various events at Billy Jeans cafe, which is probably the closest thing to a permanent venue for meets.

mac96

5,159 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th March
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That's really sad, I passed it last Sunday and just assumed it would reopen at Easter. Perhaps someone will take it on as a new business. Hope so.

Krikkit

27,470 posts

197 months

Tuesday 11th March
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It's a shame, but imho they've not moved with the times. The food and drinks there are average at best, if it wasn't for the views and the road they would've gone out of business years ago.

Sadly the council neutered the road making it all 40mph.

Frimley111R

17,175 posts

250 months

Tuesday 11th March
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Is this the one near the EVO Triangle?

mac96

5,159 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th March
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Frimley111R said:
Is this the one near the EVO Triangle?
No, it's on the Horseshoe Pass above Llangollen on way to Ruthin.

wobert

5,377 posts

238 months

Tuesday 11th March
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I was up there on Saturday…quiet as…

I live less than 10 miles away, but there are other options as Om has alluded…


Frimley111R

17,175 posts

250 months

Tuesday 11th March
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wobert said:
I was up there on Saturday…quiet as…

I live less than 10 miles away, but there are other options as Om has alluded…

Not the worst set of wheels to be driving up there wink

Royd72

35 posts

108 months

Sunday 16th March
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Hi, I’m trying to get in touch with the owners, have left voicemails on landline and sent several emails but zero replies

I live local and would love to invest making it the ultimate car and bike hangout, of which both I am extremely passionate about