RE: Caterham Seven CSR Twenty | PH Review

RE: Caterham Seven CSR Twenty | PH Review

Thursday 12th December 2024

Caterham Seven CSR Twenty | PH Review

The new CSR is the most expensive four-cylinder Seven ever - is it also the best?


It feels like a very long time since we've been blessed with a CSR. Caterham has supercharged the Seven, tried three cylinders in a Seven and made new Sevens sound a lot like old ones in the past decade or so, but (in the UK at least) the CSR has remained off the books for a good while. Its return, in the form of this 20-unit special edition, is exciting - this is the Seven Holy Grail, after all. 

As you’re on PH, you probably know plenty already (no doubt a few of you own one), though a brief reminder just in case. The CSR upgrade was an attempt in the mid-'00s to modernise the Seven for the 21st century, and the most significant manifestation of that refresh was independent rear suspension. Additionally, the aerodynamics were overhauled as well, with the front suspension moved inboard and even the wheel arches squared off to benefit airflow. The chassis was more torsionally rigid as well. All for a fairly small weight penalty, and while retaining every element that made all Sevens so joyous. The CSR represented a more sophisticated Seven, yes, but a no less thrilling one. First paired with a rip-snorting 260hp Cosworth 2.3, moreover, it was an instant Caterham icon. Which is why £40k is still needed for one nearly 20 years later. 

A shame, then, that the return of the CSR at twice that money doesn’t look tremendously special. There’s always a lot of debate and discussion about limited edition specs - think how perfectly those Sprints and Super Sprints turned out - so it feels like the Kinetic Grey or Dynamic Silver Twenty is a bit of a missed opportunity. A bolder colour could have shown off the carbon and black badges better; as with almost every car painted the colour of a breezeblock, it’s hard to get too excited (even when the driving experience promises so much). While the CSR mandates a larger wheel, Caterham is yet to make a 15-inch wheel design that suits the Seven. The configurator says that a custom colour is possible, which almost feels like a get-out for offering such plain paint as standard. 

The interior is an improvement on a standard Seven, if still a little way from the claim of “a level up from what we’ve produced before thanks to an array of high-quality materials used throughout”. Like those companies that want to charge £60 for flip flops, there’s no escaping the fundamental architecture, however lavish the marketing message. The new CSR Twenty seats are nice, as is some extra leather and carbon on the dash, though it’s hard still not to feel a tad shortchanged given the fairly rudimentary nature of the rest. Even details like the plaque, which is between the seats where it’s not seen rather than on a dash that could be spruced up, don’t sit quite right. Obviously buying a Seven for its interior ambience is like drinking eight pints of Guinnness for the nutritional benefit, but it’s hard not to think that a car nearer £70k without deeper pile carpeting or a premium leather tunnel top might have been an easier sell. 

It won’t be a surprise to learn that a lot of those concerns melt away within about five revolutions of the Toyo R888Rs. You don’t so much drive a Seven as conduct it, welcoming each and every element of the orchestra to exactly the level desired for whatever you want to happen. Even after a long time away from that little saucer of a steering wheel, a Seven requires precious little acclimitisation: the driver can see every extremity, hear every rev, feel every degree of extra lock. It might be said driving a Seven is like riding a bike, such is the intuitiveness - if two wheels without an engine could ever be this much fun.

The adapted suspension undoubtedly makes a profound difference to the Seven experience. Even with very similar, very modest dimensions to a standard car, it feels like an extra long wheelbase, super wide track Seven, such is the composure, stability and maturity with which it can tackle a B road. It’s an odd experience, truth be told, with so much of the environment familiar; sat in a Seven with your bum scraping the floor, there’s an expectation that certain bits of road will disturb or deflect it, only for the obstacle to be overcome and progress to continue unabated. Which works wonders for confidence, knowing the Seven has the sophistication to properly manage lumps and bumps rather than merely tolerate them. Especially as, of course, every single control can’t help but share everything about what exactly is going on. 

Don’t mistake a more capable Seven for a less thrilling one, either, because this remains a car the size and weight of a wardrobe with more than 200hp. With a good amount of recent experience in the turbocharged, supercharged and 1.6-litre Sevens, it’s a joy to be reminded what a silly sweet spot the plain old Duratec is. Perhaps the sound now feels a tad harsh after the evocative gurgle of the throttle-bodied cars, but there’s no arguing with the gorgeous throttle response, mighty appetite for revs (all the way to nearly 8,000rpm!) and rampant speed. If a Caterham is about the ultimate in driving purity, there remains nothing to match natural aspiration. 

It’s a shame that only a five-speed ‘box could make it to the Twenty. Not only would it be nice to have half a dozen ratios to rev out more freely (second will take the CSR to 70 here), there is again the cost to think about - £80k for five speeds looks a bit mean. Might a sequential, like the 420 Cup, have been more persuasive? Hard work on the road, perhaps. And it’s probably daft to grumble too much about the five-speed when the shift action could hardly be more perfect. Just don’t forget your slenderest slippers - that extra carpet in the footwell might make the pedals more cramped than ever…

Hopefully it says a lot of the Seven’s innate appeal that, even with the reservations around price and spec - plus the smaller matter of summer track Toyos and three degrees ambient - the Twenty remains one of the great experiences on four wheels. The more sophisticated suspension lends it some additional ability, without detracting one bit from the immediacy and intoxication that’s defined the Seven for half a century. The limits are understandably quite low at the end of November in the UK, though nowhere near as hopeless as might be expected, and there’s such satisfaction from interacting and collaborating with a sports car that speed becomes a secondary concern. It’s just you, 210hp, two driven wheels and an independent rear end doing as you wish. And it feels absolutely fantastic. 

Being brutally honest, though, it’s hard to say that the Twenty feels a whole lot more fantastic than the conventional Seven on which it’s based. Always the problem when working with such an absorbing foundation While it’s impossible to deny the plusher enjoyment on offer from a better suspended Seven, the rawness of a standard car is what often appeals to so many. Probably a back-to-back between standard and CSR would really highlight the advantages and why the premium is asked. Nevertheless, it’s difficult to imagine this representing something like £30k more entertainment than a 420R (assuming a few options on top of a £42k asking price).

If a Seven can even be assessed in vaguely rational terms, of course; the retro limited editions were a heck of a lot more than a regular 160, yet sold out in no time, because people loved them. Those who have always yearned for the CSR experience can now get it again in a new, right-hand-drive Caterham, with limited edition fairy dust sprinkled on top. So it’ll probably always be worth something near £80k, if Seven residuals are anything to go by. Yet still the impression lingers that this money should buy something even more special.


SPECIFICATION | CATERHAM SEVEN CSR TWENTY

Engine: 1,998cc four-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 210@7,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 150@6,300rpm
0-60mph: 3.6secs
Top speed: 136mph
Weight: 560kg
MPG: TBC
CO2: TBC
Price: £79,995

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Iamnotkloot

Original Poster:

1,671 posts

159 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Sounds like a missed opportunity

PRO5T

5,313 posts

37 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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£79,995.00 eek

Motormouth88

477 posts

72 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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The most fun I’ve ever had behind the wheel, but 80k is wild…just pick up a low mile used one for 30k and get all the same satisfaction without wondering where the extra 50k went

davidc1

1,589 posts

174 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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I did the factory tour a couple of weeks ago. A superb tour. And only 30quid. Recommend.

Robertb

2,434 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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560 kg, probably less than the battery pack in the Cyberster.

WPA

11,296 posts

126 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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True icon but £80K yikes

I am sure you could have the same amount of fun for a lot less cash

620S

416 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Can’t work out why the media always state the 420 being ‘the one’ when there is a 620 out there… :-D

Fetchez la vache

5,714 posts

226 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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I could never knock a car like this when in my eyes it's basically perfection personified (colour & price not withstanding). I'd have this £80k car over any multi million hypercar any day of the week.

I suspect the only way to know as to whether it's "too expensive" is whether they sell all 20 for the specified price. If they sell them all, then as a business thats in the business of making money, it's for sale at the right price.

Terminator X

17,069 posts

216 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Kudos to anyone who can drive a Caterham in the wind and rain of the UK, too hardcore for me.

TX.

supacool1

655 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Would an Atom be a better buy?

Portofino

4,648 posts

203 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Does seem, dare I say it, money for old rope. Must be hard to differentiate given a ‘standard’ Caterham is so good.

daveco

4,289 posts

219 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Robertb said:
560 kg, probably less than the battery pack in the Cyberster.
I'm pretty sure that's including the driver and fuel in the tank too!

VladD

8,074 posts

277 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Terminator X said:
Kudos to anyone who can drive a Caterham in the wind and rain of the UK, too hardcore for me.

TX.
I suspect that most Caterham owners will drive them on the days that don't have rain, which is generally over 200 days per year in the UK.

gareth h

3,881 posts

242 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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I hope that Caterham have redesigned the rear clevis arrangement, there have been numerous cases of rear suspension failures (me included)!

sideways man

1,463 posts

149 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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I’d really like a drive in a csr, to feel the difference in 130 yrs of suspension design. The de dion axle used in standard cars was invented in 1894!

smilo996

3,231 posts

182 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Had an HPC for a while and it was the most automotive fun ever outside of two wheels but 80k is absurd. Fleecing customers with a missed opportunity is not a good look.

subirg

758 posts

288 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Taken in isolation it’s got to be a great piece of kit. Sadly, the entire rest of the caterham range exists.

I think it’s a great strategy for Caterham to make more of the CSR chassis. But surely they put the wrong engine in this one. For £80k it needs to be the top dog. The daddy Caterham. That means 620R power or R500 / 485 power.

However, when these drop to more like £50k used, they will start to make more sense.

AmazingGrace

183 posts

16 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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Terminator X said:
Kudos to anyone who can drive a Caterham in the wind and rain of the UK, too hardcore for me.

TX.
When i had my xflow supersprint, it was my only car for 18 months.
Ran it in the sun, wind, rain and snow. Didnt bother with the roof or winscreen and just used tonneau and aeroscreen.

Best motoring years of my life, even if i got weird looks whilst raining.

Cryssys

631 posts

50 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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If money is no object then go for it. In the world that most of us inhabit a "standard" Caterham @ 25-30K would probably provide 90% of the fun and thrills that this one does.

£80K is an awful lot of money for such a simple car.

Gecko1978

10,962 posts

169 months

Thursday 12th December 2024
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As all Caterhams are likely unique spec wise the price seems keen given its not the best of the bunch perhaps. Also other brands out their westfield, Mk, rage etc if you have 80k to spend maybe you get your dream spec 7 alike