RE: Jaguar strikes back with 'exuberant' concept tease

RE: Jaguar strikes back with 'exuberant' concept tease

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Jaguar strikes back with 'exuberant' concept tease

Forget about where it's appropriate to use uppercase letters for a moment - there's a concept car inbound


Jaguar, it’s safe to say, has kicked up some dust. It will have been expecting that. Indeed, it has apparently gone out of its way to court a degree of controversy. Perhaps it would not have counted on quite so much vitriol - but a violent break with tradition, whether prudent or not, is very much the point. And in its version of the brave new EV world, it can comfort itself with the idea that changing the minds of a comparatively small proportion of prospective buyers is probably sufficient. Some of those people value the controversy that inevitably comes with breaking norms. Quite a lot of people, after all, paid good money for a Tesla Cybertruck. 

Or that’s the working theory PH is going with at any rate. The first sign that Jaguar might be nervously biting its fingernails down to the cuticle is the unscheduled (in the sense that PH wasn't expecting it) release of a concept teaser image. This provides, on its social media channels particularly (where Jaguar has taken the bold decision to delete all its previous posts) a useful counterweight to the Copy Nothing launch video - a 30-second film seemingly custom-made to push people’s buttons. Given the 12-day wait for the full reveal, having something else for the internet to chew on is arguably no bad thing. 

And there’s a lot here to get one’s teeth into. Officially, ‘the teaser image shows the rear detail of [Jaguar’s] Design Vision Concept that will inspire future Jaguars’. The car’s haunches, stretched dramatically far from the tapering roofline, appear enormous. Adjacent to them, and presumably mirroring the ‘strikethrough’ motif that Jaguar has already shown, is a highly conspicuous set of horizontal slats. The firm has boasted of its intent to ‘showcase bold forms and exuberant proportions’ - this would suggest that it has been true to its word. 

Moreover, no tail lights are visible (not unprecedented in a concept) and nor is a rear screen - though it seems the bodywork is cut to imply the presence of one. There have been rumours previously that Jaguar would forgo the use of a conventional rear screen in favour of a digital rearview mirror; for the concept at least, it appears that speculation carries some weight. Whether or not all of this could be said to ‘recapture the ethos of founder Sir William Lyons to Copy Nothing’ is, of course, still open to rampant speculation. The teaser, the first concrete, undisguised glimpse of Jaguar’s ‘fearless creativity’ in action, is well primed to spark its own firestorm of opinion. The manufacturer has suggested it wants to embrace a brand character ‘that commands attention’. Job done. Let’s hope it knows what to do with it. 


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Honeywell

Original Poster:

1,448 posts

105 months

Go woke go broke. What's the point of Jaguars USP when any old Chinese EV maker can give you a super smooth 500bhp car with effortless torque and eery refinement for under £50 grand? When Tesla gives you much the same with the added benefit of a luxury charging network?

Would it just be beauty?

That's about the only thing they could possibly conjure as a point of difference but I doubt they can comply with a myriad of technical parameters for a global car AND make something gorgeous looking. The only way of making something quite different would be to not package the battery as a skateboard and that would make the car handle like a pig.

They have no proprietary battery tech and can't reinvent the electric motor. They've decimated their local dealer network and the wider JLR group have a poor reputation for reliability and build standards. The Ingenium engine is possible the worst engineered power plant of this century. Their flagship product is best known for being able to be stolen anywhere anytime.

I wish it were not so as many of my customers work in the broader Solihull economy but the writing is on the wall, Going down in a splash of desperate wokeism is just an undignified way to die,

Bubbas Grill

271 posts

36 months

Give me a stunning 'Concept Car' with the deep integrity and pricing that matches that of the latest hybrid Bentley GT, please. That is the one and only space they will prosper in.

Today was Jaguar to JoCular. Jeeez!



Edited by Bubbas Grill on Thursday 21st November 02:13

Cakey Pig

520 posts

70 months

Introducing the new 'DUREX JAAAG'.

Bencolem

1,077 posts

246 months

YouTube algorithm working then…

LucyP

1,737 posts

66 months

Honeywell said:
Go woke go broke. What's the point of Jaguars USP when any old Chinese EV maker can give you a super smooth 500bhp car with effortless torque and eery refinement for under £50 grand? When Tesla gives you much the same with the added benefit of a luxury charging network?
No one is going to compare the Jaguar with a BYD Seal, in the same way that no one looks at a Porsche Taycan 4S or a BMW i7 and says - I will have the BYD for half the price of those cars, or looks at a Mercedes eqs 580 and says - I will take the Seal and save £90K, in the same way that no one looks at a Rolls Royce Cullinan and says - I could have an MG HS and save £270K.

Which of Tesla's dumpy looking cars is a rival for a Taycan? That is what the Jaguar is aiming at, not Tesla. And what is luxury about a charging network? Hanging around a grotty motorway service station?

If I want to travel from my house, North on the motorway, a journey that is 45 miles, I would have to make a 10 mile detour to find a Tesla Supercharger or travel further than my destination. The detour one is in the car park of a garden centre next to a busy main road. The one further than my destination is at a motorway services. What is luxury about that? Luxury is a petrol station on the route and no detour and no hanging around waiting for the car to charge up.

Nothing about charging an battery car is anything but a hassle, inconvenience and a delay. And at an average public charger rate of 67p/KwH, it's expensive, before the horrendous depreciation of a battery car is taken into account.


Edited by LucyP on Thursday 21st November 03:30

pycraft

923 posts

191 months

"ere have been rumours previously that Jaguar would forgo the use of a conventional rear screen in favour of a digital rearview mirror. Whether or not all of this could be said to ‘recapture the ethos of founder Sir William Lyons to Copy Nothing’ is, of course, still open to rampant speculation."

Well, the screenless rear (and digital mirrors) looks a lot like the back of an Avatr 12. It's a good-looking car, but hardy "copy nothing".

pycraft

923 posts

191 months

LucyP said:
No one looks at a Mercedes eqs 580 and says - I will take the Seal and save £90K,
To be fair, not many people look at an EQS and say "I will buy one", full stop.

LucyP said:
Which of Tesla's dumpy looking cars is a rival for a Taycan? That is what the Jaguar is aiming at, not Tesla.
The Model S is still a rival to a Taycan, in that they're at similar price points and are always at each other (a Plaid is about the same price as a Taycan GTS). IT'd be interesting to compare sales figures for both in the "which is a rival" stakes.

Arguably what Jag are aiming for is a class above both of them - for people who want something visibly better than a Tesla, which means not competing with it (which should be OK since Testa's strategy is to move downmarket, not up). I can see the entry figure of £120k-150k making sense.

LucyP said:
And what is luxury about a charging network? Hanging around a grotty motorway service station?
I will give Tesla its due on this. I used to live around the corner from a very fancy golf resort and the car park had about a dozen Tesla chargers. People could drive there from London, charge whilst they played (or stayed overnight) and drive back on a full battery. You're right about the service station, but true luxury would be never having to give fuelling a second thought because there's always enough range, and an available charger everywhere you park. The world isn't quite there yet - battery capacity needs to come in line with a decent diesel - but the infrastructure is key if grotty service stations are to be avoided.

bmv6197

87 posts

110 months

Sorry, I know I’m getting old but I think I must be getting thick too… I’ve watched the video three times and I can’t see a car… Other than the thumbnail for the article, where am I supposed to be looking for the teaser shots?

I can see from the video that they’ll be painting them with a 4” brush, that traditional coach building means the panels will be hand hammered, but I can’t see a car…

Did I mention I can’t see a car?

MOOSECORTINA

192 posts

86 months

JLR - Just Land Rover?

London GT3

1,038 posts

248 months

We sold our Jaguar F Pace SVR earlier this year and there is nothing in the Teaser shot or Video that makes me think I will be back anytime soon. The Teaser shot looks like a commercial air conditioning unit and the video is a disgrace - self indulgent cr4p created by artistic luvvies.

sidesauce

2,708 posts

225 months

pycraft said:
The Model S is still a rival to a Taycan, in that they're at similar price points and are always at each other (a Plaid is about the same price as a Taycan GTS).
As Telsa haven't sold the Model S in the UK since the end of 2021, this isn't really true.

vikingaero

11,203 posts

176 months

As I've said before, Jag were the BullSheet company when I was growing up and into cars in the 70s, 80s. Constant concept cars to be fawned over by an overly patriotic press and not actually delivering anything physical.

Gaines178

124 posts

61 months

Obviously learnt nothing from Bud Lite. Go woke, go broke.

J4CKO

42,805 posts

207 months

Woke means alert to social injustice, not that there are black people in the advert.

Gay means having a partner of the same gender (appreciate it’s got more nuanced and complex in the last few years but that’s largely the concept) Can’t really draw any conclusions as to anyone’s sexuality from the advert.

What we actually have is a rather self consciously odd advert that has upset a lot of folk who thought they knew what Jaguar represents.

Was never going to be Jackie Stewart wistfully recounting Jaguars illustrious history over some historic footage but this does seem a step too far.

Though, to be fair we are all talking about it, even if I don’t subscribe to the any publicity is good publicity mindset.

Lotus Elise R

1 posts

157 months

Someone, somewhere at Jaguar must have the words from Queen repeatedly circling in their heads: "Mama, just killed a brand
Put a gun against its head, pulled my trigger, now it's dead
Mama, life had just begun
But now I've gone and thrown it all away"

However good the cars are, people will associate them with the ads.

NDA

22,319 posts

232 months

The advert is hilarious - using BLT+ people has to be the laziest form of creative and 'embracing diversity' is not going to attract customers.

It's a shame, I used to like Jaguars - had 3 of them over the years.


Motormouth88

364 posts

67 months

Looks like an XJ220 concept…also the ad is garbage

griffsomething

264 posts

168 months

Very excited to see the full concept now!

Hope Jaaag don’t do their usual thing and show a mega concept, massively water it down a year later or chicken out entirely like they always seem to; XJ13, XJ220, RD6, XK180, CX75 etc etc etc

HighwayStar

4,466 posts

151 months

All that really matters is when we see the actual car and then if it sells.
As has been pointed out with the new Defender, PHers… it was a joke, JLR have got it wrong, farmers won’t buy it, no one will but it. I’ve no idea who buys them but I’m seeing them everywhere so a lot of PHers were wrong.
Maybe they’ll be right this time about the new JaG, we’ll see.

Woz66

14 posts

65 months

I’m as likely to buy a Jaguar as i am a can of Bud Light..who employs these idiots 🤦‍♂️