RE: Nameplates to try before you die | Six of the Best

RE: Nameplates to try before you die | Six of the Best

Saturday 9th November

Nameplates to try before you die | Six of the Best

We've had 50 years of Golf versus Civic. But they're made to look like whippersnappers compared to this lot...


Rolls-Royce Phantom EWB, 2019, 5k, £299,950

Any pitch battle between the Golf and Civic is one for the ages. Volkswagen has been building the Golf since 1974; the Civic has been in continuous production since 1972. Half a century on the assembly line makes them venerable in anyone’s book - but there are a few nameplates that enjoy legendary status for their staying power. First among them, surely, is the Rolls-Royce Phantom. Not just because its maker has been building some variant of it since 1925, but because the car itself - no matter which generation you choose - extols such an uncanny sense of permanence. It's like buying Windsor Castle. Of the many flavours to choose from, we’d be inclined to go all-in on the sumptuous, stately home theme with this EWB example in English White. There is no finer way to enjoy a rear seat. 

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Mercedes SL65 AMG Black Series, 2009, 8k, POA

Whereas very early iterations of the coach-built Phantom require an expert eye to now appraise (or even recognise), the original SL, with its gullwing doors, is one of the most famous ‘classic’ cars and readily identified by people probably unaware that 70 years have passed since its launch. The car's origin story, partly credited to a far-sighted New York dealer, is well-known too, and ushered in a seven-generation Sport-Leicht dynasty. Several of them are among Mercedes’ finest cars ever - although somewhat inevitably we couldn’t resist the charms of this UK-supplied SL65 Black Series with just 8k on the clock. Sure, there are prettier, sweeter examples of the SL, but nothing speaks to the knee-trembling good old days quite like a 670hp bi-turbo V12. 

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Ford Mustang 5.0 V8 GT, 2016, 9k, £28,980

If that all seems a bit too much like one-percenter nonsense, then how about America’s idea of a seven-generation two-door coupe? The Mustang enjoys an exalted place not just in muscle car history, but in the very fabric of a continent's consciousness. It is quite possible that no car, with the possible exception of the Golf GTI, can claim to have done a better job of democratising performance for more people than Ford’s souped-up fastback. Accordingly, while it is possible to blow mega-bucks on a unicorn variant on the ’60s-era original, the Mustang is best enjoyed when getting maximum bang for your buck. Like spending less than £30k on a V8 GT. Here’s a seldom-used example in Magnetic Grey for hatchback money. Tasty. 

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Porsche 930 Turbo, 1981, 66k, £130,000

Oft forgotten fun fact: like the Mustang, the Porsche 911’s first year of production was 1964. The so-called ‘classic’ generation was in production till 1989 and enjoys a large and devoted following. But if you’re inclined to dip a paw into old-school, air-cooled ownership, then there’s a lot to be said for the 930, the turbocharged version that Porsche initially introduced in 1975 for homologation purposes. On track it would spawn the magnificent 935; on road, it was sufficiently demanding to drive to foster the 911’s widow-maker reputation. Today, it looks (and in 3.3-litre format, sounds) like nothing else, especially in Moss Green. Expect around 300hp from its larger flat-six and a suitably modern amount of performance. Care and TLC required, obviously - but a lovely way to celebrate 60 years of 911. 

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Chevrolet Corvette C8 Stingray, 2023, 4k, £94,500

The Corvette predates the 911 by a decade, and of all the cars on this list, it is the one that has succumbed to the most identity changes in over 70 years of slightly stop-start production. Back in 1953, the Corvette was a svelte, front-engined fibreglass creation meant to make you look good. Now it’s a mid-engined V8-powered supercar that can even be bought as an all-wheel-drive hybrid. The really exciting thing about the current C8, though, is its availability as a right-hand-drive model - and that’s what you get here in 6.2-litre Stingray format. This UK-supplied Iconic Torch Red car, which has only covered 4k at the hands of a single owner, is available immediately. A potentially fabulous way to scratch an eight-generation itch. 

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Range Rover V8 Vogue (L322), 2011, 80k, £16,950

We were going to round things off with a Land Cruiser, the redoubtable workhorse Toyota has been building since 1951. But the off-roader has always been something of a bit player in the UK, so instead we thought we’d pay tribute to the Range Rover - a car which not only transformed the fortunes of its manufacturer, but also contributed to the changing perception of SUVs globally. Which of its five generations has delivered the best version is debatable, although we’re happy to spread the love that is increasingly heaped on later versions of the L322. The shape, we’d venture, is now timeless and effectively qualifies you as landed gentry. Here’s a lovely looking car from 2011 with Ford’s lusty 4.4-litre diesel V8 and below-average miles - all for the appealing low price of £17k. That might end up being the first instalment of a larger outlay, but at least you’ll feel like a million bucks when all is well.

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wistec1

Original Poster:

450 posts

48 months

Saturday 9th November
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Not sure I'd want to try any of these six offerings before I croak. Perhaps more to the point which model type and then the later 911s comes in to focus. This is a journalistic feature that could go on and on until all the other iconic name plates have been batched up and sixed out.
If like me you're a petrol head then you've probably got your own bucket list. Now in my early retiring years I'm fortunate enough to be doing just that with my own version of wheeler dealer two in and one out and so far I've done or I'm still doing. Aston DBS, Abarth 695, Mini Goodwood, Lotus (Sunbeam)x3, Indespension Jiffy, Grinnall Scorpionx4 BMW 1M,M2 &535ds Toyota GRY,Fiat Panda 100hp & 4x4. I've still plenty of name plates to tick off yet with Alfa, Lancia, Porsche, perhaps a Ford RS Ferrari & Lambo maybe who knows? Suggestion? I'm listening. All I have to do is stay alive long enough. If you can, do it ladies and gents because your a long time gone as they say

Evolved

3,754 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th November
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Random jumble. Spin the wheel, see what names stick.

wistec1

Original Poster:

450 posts

48 months

Saturday 9th November
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Yep went from a DBS into a 141K mile Fiat 100HP this year and it made me smile just as much, it was a cracking little car. I'm expecting a therapists gift voucher from my son for Christmas this year. It's not about the money it's about the drive.

quote=Evolved]Random jumble. Spin the wheel, see what names stick.
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Pit Pony

9,242 posts

128 months

Saturday 9th November
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wistec1 said:
Yep went from a DBS into a 141K mile Fiat 100HP this year and it made me smile just as much, it was a cracking little car. I'm expecting a therapists gift voucher from my son for Christmas this year. It's not about the money it's about the drive.

Evolved said:
Random jumble. Spin the wheel, see what names stick.
It's not what you drive, but how you drive it.

Unreal

4,975 posts

32 months

Saturday 9th November
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Slightly odd list. Nothing much of interest to me apart from the Mustang. I'd like to try one of those but I don't have a suitable space for a big two door coupe tying up the best part of £30K. If I did some work involving a fair bit of driving and that was more like £20K I think I'd be quite keen. Nice to be different and it looks like plenty of car for the money. Is it stupido VED? I know it's not always straightforward post 2006.

amacl10

248 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th November
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wistec1 said:
Not sure I'd want to try any of these six offerings before I croak. Perhaps more to the point which model type and then the later 911s comes in to focus. This is a journalistic feature that could go on and on until all the other iconic name plates have been batched up and sixed out.
If like me you're a petrol head then you've probably got your own bucket list. Now in my early retiring years I'm fortunate enough to be doing just that with my own version of wheeler dealer two in and one out and so far I've done or I'm still doing. Aston DBS, Abarth 695, Mini Goodwood, Lotus (Sunbeam)x3, Indespension Jiffy, Grinnall Scorpionx4 BMW 1M,M2 &535ds Toyota GRY,Fiat Panda 100hp & 4x4. I've still plenty of name plates to tick off yet with Alfa, Lancia, Porsche, perhaps a Ford RS Ferrari & Lambo maybe who knows? Suggestion? I'm listening. All I have to do is stay alive long enough. If you can, do it ladies and gents because your a long time gone as they say
Love this……enjoy!

Writhing

517 posts

116 months

Saturday 9th November
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I think the Mustang is big tax. The stupid thing is, two years newer with more horsepower is £190.

howardhughes

1,110 posts

211 months

Saturday 9th November
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That 930 Porsche in a heartbeat.

AndySheff

6,690 posts

214 months

Saturday 9th November
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Another random list of what's for sale on PH.

andy43

10,589 posts

261 months

Saturday 9th November
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None of those. I’d like to try a Mitsubishi Toppo BJ or a Gaylord Gladiator.

Surreygearhead

7 posts

69 months

Saturday 9th November
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If you're still adding, maybe look at something like a Porsche 993 for the iconic 911 experience or a Ford Escort RS Cosworth if you want that rally vibe.

sidesauce

2,709 posts

225 months

Saturday 9th November
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The Royce for me, without hesitation.

Having experienced this latest Phantom, there's literally no other car on earth like it for the sheer opulence, sense of occasion and the hushed cocoon you're in when being driven in one. Traffic jams no longer annoy. What are speed bumps? You come away from it feeling refreshed and calm at the end of your journey. It is absolutely first class flying but in car form and I'm in love with it.

croyde

23,916 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th November
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£29k for a 2016 Mustang V8!

I should never have sold mine.

Bought new in 2016 for £33k, sold 2 years later for £30k.

Mad to think that I could have kept it 8 years and it could still have got me my money back.

At the time people said that it would depreciate like an anvil pushed off a cliff biggrin

ex-devonpaul

1,289 posts

144 months

Saturday 9th November
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Unreal said:
Slightly odd list. Nothing much of interest to me apart from the Mustang. I'd like to try one of those but I don't have a suitable space for a big two door coupe tying up the best part of £30K. If I did some work involving a fair bit of driving and that was more like £20K I think I'd be quite keen. Nice to be different and it looks like plenty of car for the money. Is it stupido VED? I know it's not always straightforward post 2006.
Rule of thumb, pretty much anything interesting registered this century until April 2017 is high VED. There is a cutoff of late march 2006, before that it is about £400, later is £760 this year.

The Gransport snuck into the 'cheap' band by 2 days, the Z4M didn't. The diesel we do 5 figure miles in each year costs £20.

As for that list of cars, iconic names maybe, but there's a lot of that Kudos resing on the fact they were cool or Innovative 50 years ago and now there are a host of alternatives. The Mustang would be nowhere if Bullitt had driven a Chevy.

TwigtheWonderkid

44,665 posts

157 months

Saturday 9th November
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Corvette C8. I don't care how it performs against similar cars. When something looks that good, everything else can be overlooked.

But I'm not really into stupid cars. I'd rather have a 1960s bubble car.

Robertb

2,090 posts

245 months

Saturday 9th November
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sidesauce said:
The Royce for me, without hesitation.

Having experienced this latest Phantom, there's literally no other car on earth like it for the sheer opulence, sense of occasion and the hushed cocoon you're in when being driven in one. Traffic jams no longer annoy. What are speed bumps? You come away from it feeling refreshed and calm at the end of your journey. It is absolutely first class flying but in car form and I'm in love with it.
Agreed, but not in Arab hotel courtesy car spec.

cerb4.5lee

33,599 posts

187 months

Saturday 9th November
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howardhughes said:
That 930 Porsche in a heartbeat.
The engine is in the wrong place for me, but my goodness I do love the way the 930 looks though for sure. cloud9

I'II never say no to a 5.0 V8 Mustang either. smokin

HiAsAKite

2,416 posts

254 months

Saturday 9th November
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howardhughes said:
That 930 Porsche in a heartbeat.
Agree.. 930 for me without a shadow of a doubt!

Gibbler290

673 posts

102 months

Saturday 9th November
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What a fantastic colour on the Porsche. Love it. Random selection of cars otherwise.

PH: I wouldn’t think less of you if you just called this “Here are six cars from the classifieds/auctions we loved this week.

Evolved

3,754 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th November
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Pit Pony said:
wistec1 said:
Yep went from a DBS into a 141K mile Fiat 100HP this year and it made me smile just as much, it was a cracking little car. I'm expecting a therapists gift voucher from my son for Christmas this year. It's not about the money it's about the drive.

Evolved said:
Random jumble. Spin the wheel, see what names stick.
It's not what you drive, but how you drive it.
I agree. My point was that the selection is a jumble of options that represents one persons view, and not one that remotely aligns with my own. It fills the space on the forum and makes for interesting discussion though.