New engines after 2035

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A500leroy

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5,595 posts

125 months

Sunday 27th October
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Ok, I know new ice engines vehicles aren't allowed to be built, but what about building an engine from new parts to put in an existing vehicle, anyone know if that's banned too?

Scrump

22,944 posts

165 months

Sunday 27th October
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I am sure replacement parts (including an engine) will be allowed to be sold and fitted to existing vehicles.

Chris944_S2

2,004 posts

230 months

Sunday 27th October
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I don’t see individual components banned, however without the volumes of new engine sales I can see many suppliers quitting as there will no longer be any business case for them to keep factories with assembly lines of engine car parts running.

BlueMR2

8,732 posts

209 months

Sunday 27th October
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A500leroy said:
Ok, I know new ice engines vehicles aren't allowed to be built, but what about building an engine from new parts to put in an existing vehicle, anyone know if that's banned too?
Are they not allowed to be built or are they not allowed to be sold in the UK, eg, will places like India not be buying ice engines anymore.

Stick Legs

5,982 posts

172 months

Sunday 27th October
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Scaremongering_on_the_internet said:
The proposal, originating from the European Commission and yet to be ratified, aims to phase out older, more polluting vehicles in favour of environmentally friendly options.
This prospective regulation, awaiting approval from the European Parliament and the Council, introduces the notion of a ‘residual vehicle’.

Cars experiencing failures in major components such as engines, transmissions, brakes, or steering, and deemed old (potentially around 15 years), will fall under this category. Once labelled as residual, these vehicles would be barred from undergoing significant repairs and would likely be scrapped.

The EU’s ambitious ‘Fit for 55’ program seeks to eliminate direct transport emissions by 2050, with interim goals including a 55 per cent reduction by 2030 from 1990 levels.
A significant step in this journey is the 2035 ban on new combustion engine cars, excluding vehicles operating on potential future synthetic fuels. However, the reality presents challenges, as the uptake of low or zero-emission vehicles in the EU lags behind expectations, varying significantly across member states.

Spain, for example, now has an average vehicle age exceeding 14 years, with over 47 per cent of vehicles older than 15 years.
Such trends are not confined to southern European countries or those with lower incomes; Germany’s average vehicle age hovers around 10 years, with France exceeding this mark.

This ageing fleet has prompted the European Commission to propose measures aimed at reducing car longevity.

The crux of the controversy lies in a draft regulation redefining waste classification and management for end-of-life vehicles, promoting a circular economy.
The European Commission’s office in Spain has clarified that the proposal does not intend to prevent necessary engine repairs or replacements in standard cars.

The regulation specifies conditions under which a vehicle is deemed technically irreparable or residual. These include extensive damage, such as being cut, welded, burnt, submerged, or exhibiting irreversible technical defects.

Controversially, a vehicle requiring major part replacements or whose repair costs exceed its market value could also be classified as residual.
This raises concerns about the potential impact on the workshop sector and the preservation of classic cars. The proposal, while not forcing owners to discard their vehicles, casts doubt on the future of vehicle repairs and sales, especially for cars potentially deemed historical.

In conclusion, the EU’s new car regulation proposal, part of its broader environmental strategy, is a multifaceted issue.
It seeks to promote a cleaner future but raises questions about its implications for vehicle owners, the automotive industry, and the preservation of automotive heritage.
This is a serious proposal but if it is enacted or even becomes law here who knows.

Sebring440

2,326 posts

103 months

Sunday 27th October
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A500leroy said:
Ok, I know new ice engines vehicles aren't allowed to be built,
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...




GeniusOfLove

2,308 posts

19 months

Tuesday 29th October
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Stick Legs said:
Scaremongering_on_the_internet said:
The proposal, originating from the European Commission and yet to be ratified, aims to phase out older, more polluting vehicles in favour of environmentally friendly options.
This prospective regulation, awaiting approval from the European Parliament and the Council, introduces the notion of a ‘residual vehicle’.

Cars experiencing failures in major components such as engines, transmissions, brakes, or steering, and deemed old (potentially around 15 years), will fall under this category. Once labelled as residual, these vehicles would be barred from undergoing significant repairs and would likely be scrapped.

The EU’s ambitious ‘Fit for 55’ program seeks to eliminate direct transport emissions by 2050, with interim goals including a 55 per cent reduction by 2030 from 1990 levels.
A significant step in this journey is the 2035 ban on new combustion engine cars, excluding vehicles operating on potential future synthetic fuels. However, the reality presents challenges, as the uptake of low or zero-emission vehicles in the EU lags behind expectations, varying significantly across member states.

Spain, for example, now has an average vehicle age exceeding 14 years, with over 47 per cent of vehicles older than 15 years.
Such trends are not confined to southern European countries or those with lower incomes; Germany’s average vehicle age hovers around 10 years, with France exceeding this mark.

This ageing fleet has prompted the European Commission to propose measures aimed at reducing car longevity.

The crux of the controversy lies in a draft regulation redefining waste classification and management for end-of-life vehicles, promoting a circular economy.
The European Commission’s office in Spain has clarified that the proposal does not intend to prevent necessary engine repairs or replacements in standard cars.

The regulation specifies conditions under which a vehicle is deemed technically irreparable or residual. These include extensive damage, such as being cut, welded, burnt, submerged, or exhibiting irreversible technical defects.

Controversially, a vehicle requiring major part replacements or whose repair costs exceed its market value could also be classified as residual.
This raises concerns about the potential impact on the workshop sector and the preservation of classic cars. The proposal, while not forcing owners to discard their vehicles, casts doubt on the future of vehicle repairs and sales, especially for cars potentially deemed historical.

In conclusion, the EU’s new car regulation proposal, part of its broader environmental strategy, is a multifaceted issue.
It seeks to promote a cleaner future but raises questions about its implications for vehicle owners, the automotive industry, and the preservation of automotive heritage.
This is a serious proposal but if it is enacted or even becomes law here who knows.
That sounds like the sort of scam the German motor companies have lobbied for to drive up sales.