RE: F1-engined Mercedes-AMG One for sale

RE: F1-engined Mercedes-AMG One for sale

Sunday 27th October

F1-engined Mercedes-AMG One for sale

After seven years of development hell, you can now finally have an AMG One on your drive - for £2.8m


There’s a reason why carmakers don’t put Formula 1 engines in road cars. Several, in fact. Firstly, there’s the cost element. Even a conservative estimate for a current, ultra-complex hybrid engine is north of £10m, and that’s before you consider the price of the gearbox and all the other trimmings. Then there’s cooling. A highly-strung F1 engine needs to ingest humongous amounts of air to keep cool, which is why mechanics hurriedly bung leaf blowers into the cooling ducts whenever a car is sat still. And while F1 engines are more durable than ever, they’re only good for around 1,500 miles of running before dropping off in performance or, more likely, expiring in a plume of smoke. 

Fortunately, none of this has stopped carmakers from throwing caution to the wind and having a crack at it. The obvious one is the Ferrari F50. Its 4.7-litre V12 was a heavily reworked version of the 3.5-litre engine that powered the Scuderia’s 1990 F1 car, while the Porsche Carrera GT’s V10 was a distant relative of the motor used by the Footwork team in 1991. But aside from Lanzante’s TAG-powered 930 Turbo (of which only a handful have been made), no manufacturer has successfully shoehorned an F1 engine into a road car without any alterations. Well, until Mercedes came along with the AMG One like the one you see here.

No, your eyes don’t deceive you. This isn’t a build slot, it’s a proper production car that’s already tallied 34 exciting miles. And that’s significant for the One because it’s taken many, many years to get to this point. This includes seven long, gruelling years of testing and development, proving just how difficult it is to make an F1 engine road-ready. Especially the current 1.6-litre V6 hybrid engines, which even the rule makers have conceded are too complicated and are therefore simplifying them for the next regulation shakeup in 2026. 

For Mercedes, however, it was the perfect way to prove the road relevance of its F1 tech. Fans weren’t all that keen on the muted V6s after years of screaming V8s, but placing the same engine that powered Lewis Hamilton to the 2015 F1 championship in the back of a hypercar is one way to go about winning them over. And it’s largely unchanged in the road car, getting the same 1.6-litre displacement, with both an MGU-K (Motor Generator Unit - Kinetic) and MGU-H (Motor Generator Unit - Heat) recouping energy into an 8.4kWh battery. Where it differs is with the addition of two electric motors up front, which combined with the combustion engine develop 1,063hp.

Getting that all to work together, especially when trundling around in traffic, proved hugely challenging. You’ve probably heard some of the rumours - nevertheless, Mercedes finally pulled the trigger on production in 2022. Even then, it can’t be driven like any other supercar. The start procedure is said to be highly specific, as demonstrated by 2016 F1 champ Nico Rosberg when he took delivery of his earlier this year. For instance, it takes over a minute to warm the catalytic converters up, and cutting the engine before you’re meant to is a big no no. Do that six times in a row and Merc will lock the engine, requiring a call out from a technician with a laptop to get it started again. Oof.

Mind you, a fiddly start procedure is a small price to pay to experience a modern F1 engine, whether that be pottering around Monaco or at full pelt around your private race track. And at £2,800,000 for the car you see here, it’s a good deal cheaper than the V6-powered Ferrari F80 - and that’s before you throw options into the mix. This AMG One’s perfectly specced, too, using the same black with silver star livery as worn by Hamilton’s all-conquering W11 from 2020. It even comes with an array of accessories, including AMG-branded noise-cancelling earphones from Sennheiser. It’s been a long time coming, then, but it’s sure to have been worth the wait.


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GreatScott2016

Original Poster:

1,470 posts

95 months

Sunday 27th October
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While I marvel at the engineering, I have zero desire to own one, even if could afford one (which I can't)! smile

Jon_S_Rally

3,672 posts

95 months

Sunday 27th October
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I'm not sure I'd have the balls to own one, but what a fantastic thing. It's nice to see manufacturers doing something silly, and the gestation period for this car demonstrates just how silly it is. Bravo Mercedes.

Orchardab

483 posts

133 months

Sunday 27th October
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GreatScott2016 said:
While I marvel at the engineering, I have zero desire to own one, even if could afford one (which I can't)! smile
Not a bedroom poster car for me!

pycraft

925 posts

191 months

Sunday 27th October
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The_Article said:
Fans weren’t all that keen on the muted V6s after years of screaming V8s, but placing the same engine that powered Lewis Hamilton to the 2015 F1 championship in the back of a hypercar is one way to go about winning them over.

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Mind you, a fiddly start procedure is a small price to pay to experience a modern F1 engine
Sorry to be pernickety, but is something from 2015 "modern"? Admittedly, it's probably better than MB F1's recent efforts...

595Heaven

2,598 posts

85 months

Sunday 27th October
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Leaves me cold I’m afraid.

Built behind the Skoda retailer in Coventry, next to the production line for the AM Valkyrie!

https://maps.app.goo.gl/rp8kmfCVbjnu1xEr7?g_st=com...

mickythefish

1,020 posts

13 months

Sunday 27th October
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a car that needs a start up process is a true car. you have cars nowadays that so far from what cars were once, more than just going fast.

Mabbs9

1,253 posts

225 months

Sunday 27th October
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Does a car sat still or sit still?

This looks crazy cool!

pycraft

925 posts

191 months

Sunday 27th October
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595Heaven said:
Leaves me cold I’m afraid.

Built behind the Skoda retailer in Coventry, next to the production line for the AM Valkyrie!
To be fair, Coventry's got good form for carbuilding.

FMOB

1,994 posts

19 months

Sunday 27th October
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Needs a better paintjob, something to brighten it up, looks so dull and depressing in all black.

Dale487

1,409 posts

130 months

Sunday 27th October
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Orchardab said:
GreatScott2016 said:
While I marvel at the engineering, I have zero desire to own one, even if could afford one (which I can't)! smile
Not a bedroom poster car for me!
Same here - it just leaves me cold

CountyAFC

1,616 posts

10 months

Sunday 27th October
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mickythefish said:
a car that needs a start up process is a true car. you have cars nowadays that so far from what cars were once, more than just going fast.
What nonsense.

Spiros115

377 posts

57 months

Sunday 27th October
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Surely the engine’s impact/character is greatly affected by the fact it’s no longer in the 700kg car it was meant for and is now in something a whole ton heavier. Maybe the electric motors compensate but then again why not just pick something that worked better alongside them? I work in marketing and even I have to think this is just a pure marketing exercise as surely the car is very compromised from its contemporaries or even what it could have been with a better choice of engine?!

Motormouth88

368 posts

67 months

Sunday 27th October
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34 miles!! Best get it serviced then

plumslikerocks

34 posts

93 months

Sunday 27th October
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Who would actually buy this, other than the ultimate Merc F1 fanboy? A £2.8m full kit w@nker…?!

595Heaven

2,598 posts

85 months

Sunday 27th October
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pycraft said:
595Heaven said:
Leaves me cold I’m afraid.

Built behind the Skoda retailer in Coventry, next to the production line for the AM Valkyrie!
To be fair, Coventry's got good form for carbuilding.
Absolutely! Hugely important city for the UK motor industry! All sorts of boring looking warehouses creating incredible stuff…

Edited by 595Heaven on Sunday 27th October 07:51

Gecko1978

10,458 posts

164 months

Sunday 27th October
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This really is just an ornament then. Price seems OK for that sort of thing but if it were my £2.8m then it would go to pagani and as luck would have it they have a merc engine too. I know people say when you have this sort of cash to spend its one of many many cars but I assume you do want to drive them now an again and this seems to push the boundaries hence it feels like an ornament in the schmee musesum

CharverDeeksWorth

725 posts

146 months

Sunday 27th October
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Start up process:

1. 11 star jumps
2. A lap of the local park on a child’s scooter
3. Cup of tea with your Grandma
4. Mow the lawn
5. Wink at the neighbour’s wife
6. Turn key

samoht

6,286 posts

153 months

Sunday 27th October
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Spiros115 said:
Surely the engine’s impact/character is greatly affected by the fact it’s no longer in the 700kg car it was meant for and is now in something a whole ton heavier. Maybe the electric motors compensate but then again why not just pick something that worked better alongside them?
Totally agree, the point of using a 1.6L engine would be to make it lightweight and thus fun to drive. Once you get up around 1500kg+ you may as well have a proper size engine with eight or more cylinders.

It feels like something that seemed like a good idea to start with, but as development progressed the weight and complexity got away from them. Hopefully the extra unregulated development that Merc have put into this car will give them a head start with the new 50%-electric powertrains for 2026.

WhyOne

417 posts

205 months

Sunday 27th October
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mickythefish said:
a car that needs a start up process is a true car. you have cars nowadays that so far from what cars were once, more than just going fast.
You read an awful lot of nonsense on t'internet, but this really does take the biscuit!

andy43

10,589 posts

261 months

Sunday 27th October
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The number 1.6 tells me all I need to know.