RE: 2024 Porsche Panamera GTS | PH Review

RE: 2024 Porsche Panamera GTS | PH Review

Tuesday 22nd October

2024 Porsche Panamera GTS | PH Review

A GTS is more expensive than a new M5, with 200hp less - can it compete?


Context is important when driving a fast car. Any car, really. A not-so-great vehicle on the perfect road can still be a lot of fun; a brilliant car in whatever the wrong environment might be is an object lesson in frustration. But when the stars align, there’s no greater thrill. Think sports car on a mountain pass as the sun is coming up (or down) or getting very dirty in a quarry with a 4x4. And especially, of course, an epic track car on an epic track. 

For the latest Panamera GTS, it turns out that sweet spot is a dark, dank Saturday morning, the day after the GT3 reveal and with a flight to catch some autobahn kilometres away. It’s very early, none of the three occupants slept very well, the caffeine hasn’t massaged anyone to life yet and the drizzle is irritatingly persistent. Great though eight per cent shorter ratios, RS cams and a Weissach packaged sounded for 992.2, nobody wants or needs that right now. What’s needed is a calm and commanding cruiser, one that can rouse us all gently from our slumber without jolting everyone to attention. 

Loping out of town, the V8-powered GTS could well be a Taycan. Almost. It’s not quite as immediate in its responses, but the powertrain is so spookily smooth that it would be hard to suggest so much engine and so many gears are doing their thing. It’s utterly effortless, borderline serene, which is unexpected from probably the most ostensibly sporting Panamera. Ignore the Racetex and the lower ride height and the black accents - it can definitely still do plush luxury saloon. Nobody is unduly disturbed, least of all the driver. Any interior fiddling required - someone wants cool air to wake up, another warm to stay cosy - remains a little easier than in the EV thanks to the proper buttons

Where it feels different to a Taycan is sitting at a 75mph cruise and watching the range hold steady, perhaps even being added to a little. It doesn’t take long on a restricted autobahn in a Panamera to be persuaded that ditching the airport altogether and cracking on towards France with maybe a quick splash and dash for the 90-litre tank is a good idea. The V8 burble and burr is a fine accompaniment to progress, and the Porsche arrangement of pedals, wheel and seat is second to none. It’s supremely comfortable, the alcantara is nicer to hold than leather, plus low and snug is no impediment to visibility. There’s still nothing quite like a big saloon (or fastback) for effortlessness.

There is a derestricted section, though it remains dark and drizzly, and with drowsy passengers onboard, it isn’t really the time to be chasing three miles a minute. The game becomes attempting to avoid kickdown from top; the gearchanges are decisive when required, but it keeps things smoother still if the throttle can be tickled and the revs kept low. In a modern super-saloon, 485lb ft doesn’t look on paper like a great deal - not with an M3 basically as strong - though there’s enough torque to take 75mph into three figures without very much duress. The GTS sits at 120mph or so with only a little more rustling around the mirrors to prove it. 

There’s plenty more in the tank (in every sense) if required. On rare moments of maximum acceleration, clearly this isn’t as rampant or relentless as a flagship Turbo S E-Hybrid, though again it’s hard to imagine very much being required. Probably the smaller sixes of cars like the M3 and Giulia feel a little keener to rev than the big V8, if that’s of much concern. Put most simply, if a GTS feels fast enough and exciting enough for the autobahn, it’s going to feel fast enough and exciting enough for the A11.  

Among corners, the GTS performed as these Panamera so often do: with greater urgency and zeal than a standard car, plus less fluster than a heavier, hybrid model. Even without the Active Ride Control suspension that’s been working miracles (it’s only offered on electrified Porsches because of the system’s requirements), the GTS is a model of composure and poise. Sport Plus overeggs the pudding a little, too tense and too eager to kickdown, but there’s not a situation Normal or Sport won’t suit anyway. The paddles are as responsive as ever for those that really want to use them, albeit with the new Taycan-style drive selector making the switch from auto fiddlier than before. Having spent a lot of time recently messing around with settings on a touchscreen, a wheel-mounted dial is very welcome.

The whole car is welcome. It’s just a pleasure, the GTS - usefully updated for the latest generation, but pleasingly familiar. As so many alternatives seek to complicate what a fast four- or five-door should be (with limited success) so Porsche continues with a 500hp V8 Panamera that sounds great, brakes and steers like a sports car, cruises like a Range Rover and launches like a greyhound. Perhaps it isn’t a transformatively different experience from the last GTS. Probably it didn’t need to be. 

For some, the prestige of an M badge - or ‘Turbo’ emblazoned across the rump of a Porsche - will be too attractive to ignore. And we'd be remiss not to point out that the incoming BMW M5 offers some useful electric range, a heap more power, standard rear-wheel steer and that flagship status for significantly less money (£111k vs £125k) than the Porsche. Without even thinking about the options spend likely on a Panamera. Nevertheless, it’s hard to come away from a GTS, even on a brief and bleary drive, unimpressed. It’s simply operating at too high a level for any other verdict to be reached, with the additional charisma of an engine configuration denied to the base model. If the running costs of a purely petrol GTS can be tolerated, and your ego can deal with not having 700hp or more, there’s probably not a finer car of its ilk out there. An M5 will have to be pretty damn good, put it that way. 


SPECIFICATION | 2024 PORSCHE PANAMERA GTS

Engine: 3996cc twin-turbo V8
Transmission: 8-speed dual-clutch, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 500@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 485@2,100-4,000rpm
0-62mph: 3.8 seconds
Top speed: 187mph
Weight: 2,065kg (DIN)
MPG: 22.2-23.5
CO2: 274-288g/km
Price: £125,600

Author
Discussion

ThomW

Original Poster:

1,338 posts

35 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Seems like an utterly irrelevant car these days.

David87

6,789 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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M5 had 500bhp 20 years ago.biggrin

h0b0

8,209 posts

203 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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I believe that’s the same engine as in the Urus and is a $2k remap from around 700hp.

supacool1

553 posts

186 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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ThomW said:
Seems like an utterly irrelevant car these days.
Not wrong...

JJJ.

1,499 posts

22 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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I really wish I could and wouldn't give an M5 a second glance.

J4CKO

42,880 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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But its not an M car competitor ?

There are versions above this with nearly 700 bhp, thats the M5 rival, this is more an M550i rival, might be nearer on price, but Porsche always tends to be that bit more expensive.

And not sure why its not relevant, obviously they still sell some so its still on their lists, dont think its a big seller but never really has been.

The GTS models always seem to be sort of the Goldilocks version, bit more than the base models but without the expense and overkill of the top ones, if you get past Top Trumps and the crazy power figures we see nowadays, 500 bhp should be plenty, 0-60 in 3.8 seconds doesnt sound too shabby.

Swear we have got a bit addled by things of late, bet this is a magnificent way to cover some miles, and no range anxiety like a Taycan.




Mercutio

241 posts

169 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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ThomW said:
Seems like an utterly irrelevant car these days.
Ok, I'll bite.

What do you feel makes this car 'irrelevant' ...?

Wills2

24,423 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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JJJ. said:
I really wish I could and wouldn't give an M5 a second glance.
Agreed it's a lovely if expensive thing, the new M5 has lost it's way IMO, the Panamera is 400kg lighter for a start my old F10 M5 had a better power to weight ratio than the new M5, the new one is very hard to understand other than the emissions game.


theicemario

870 posts

82 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Would have this over the new M5 in a heartbeat



Looks fantastic from this angle. And the red paint is ace. Just not a fan of the black centre-section on the front bumper

Wab1974uk

1,072 posts

34 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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ThomW said:
Seems like an utterly irrelevant car these days.
Why? Not everyone wants an SUV

pSyCoSiS

3,734 posts

212 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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I like the look of this, but would rather have the M5..

Abc321

569 posts

102 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Adding my 2p worth, I would also much rather have this than the new M5. Disagree with comment that its now irrelevant - if I had £125k to spend, this would be very much up there (not everyone wants an SUV). And would assume this thing is great at eating up miles in supreme comfort.

scenario8

6,833 posts

186 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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I suspect the “utterly irrelevant” contributions arise from the view that in some markets, very much including our own, ICE vehicles are so heavily penalised relative to the EV market as to make these already niche markets even smaller.

Which is a bit of a shame as I would imagine it’s a rather splendid thing. But BIK will be obscene, as will the road tax and fuel taxes so I can see why many within the fortunate few would walk a little further along the aisle and go for a hybrid or EV alternative.

(It’s also a shame they discontinued the estate version. Sadface).

Dale487

1,413 posts

130 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Low bar, but its better looking than the new M5

bishop finger

101 posts

3 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Mercutio said:
Ok, I'll bite.

What do you feel makes this car 'irrelevant' ...?
Not like you could stretch its legs with an EVs or Dorris's 20mph rolling road block, road works, speed cameras; miserable w*nky experience like everything in the country

Hairymonster

1,522 posts

112 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Wab1974uk said:
Why? Not everyone wants an SUV
Absolutely. This, every time.

Or a Ford Focus, an Astra, a Golf, quite literally, anything.

ThomW

Original Poster:

1,338 posts

35 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Wab1974uk said:
ThomW said:
Seems like an utterly irrelevant car these days.
Why? Not everyone wants an SUV
Thats completely true. But they aren't offering the estate version of this any more which really sucks. That was the big selling point over an SUV, it still had the load space but was lower, more economical, drove better etc.

S600BSB

6,122 posts

113 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Lovely thing. Pana over a M5 every time.

WPA

10,205 posts

121 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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theicemario said:
Would have this over the new M5 in a heartbeat



Looks fantastic from this angle. And the red paint is ace. Just not a fan of the black centre-section on the front bumper
+1 Would be my choice over the new M5 as well

Rudolf Hucker

5 posts

15 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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...and 500kg less too. Why the infantile obsession with bhp?