Breathtaking Challenging Design

Breathtaking Challenging Design

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CooperS

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4,565 posts

233 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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I was reading a readers thread and thought hmmm BMW 7 Series Waftyness - i wonder how much?

But what made me physically recoil (and i know i should of braced myself) was the sheer ugliness of the latest generation.

Is there any other brand that has completed such a sharp design turn and made such a challenging design.



Turns into this


toon10

6,726 posts

171 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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BMW has had a complete meltdown in terms of design. I'm on my 4th BMW (2018 340i) and I find they drive better than the equivalent competition but more and more, the newer designs are so bad that I'd struggle to stay with the brand. The latest 2, 3, 4, 5 and 7 series are so ugly that I don't care how well they drive. That 7 series is probably the pick of the ugly bunch. I've never really enjoyed driving Audi's, but I'd take an A8 over that all day long.

Austin_Metro

1,381 posts

62 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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The 2020 is bad enough but that 2023?!

I saw one of these coming towards me at the weekend - and thought, yep, still would quite like one of those.



I just means I’m an old git.

kambites

69,450 posts

235 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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The two cars in the OP both look pretty awful to me.

Ezra

738 posts

41 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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To be fair, that 2nd pic from the OP is an I7 EV not a 730 ICE as in the first pic so, not a true like for like comparison. The latest 7 series plug in hybrid is marginally less ugly.

supacool1

685 posts

193 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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We saw one of the new ones on the motorway yesterday on miserable Sunday morning. Even my girlfriend said it looked weird and bloated.

J4CKO

44,292 posts

214 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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Austin_Metro said:
The 2020 is bad enough but that 2023?!

I saw one of these coming towards me at the weekend - and thought, yep, still would quite like one of those.



I just means I’m an old git.
Peak 7 Series, I know its a cliche but it just was, better looking than the previous one and massively better looking than a Bangle designed successor.

Really was a handsome and lithe looking luxury car.

CooperS

Original Poster:

4,565 posts

233 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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Ezra said:
To be fair, that 2nd pic from the OP is an I7 EV not a 730 ICE as in the first pic so, not a true like for like comparison. The latest 7 series plug in hybrid is marginally less ugly.
Ah!!! I'm not a powerfully built director and you’re right Google 7 series 2024 and the results are mildly less hurty on the eyes biggrin

Gericho

608 posts

17 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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Things can only get worse...




Debaser

7,092 posts

275 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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The new 7 series is so ugly. What are BMW thinking?

Muddle238

4,199 posts

127 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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My guess is that BMW don't really care what their cars look like, so long as it provides a talking point about the brand. They know people will buy them, so they can afford to create what their PR department will likely deem as "innovative, cutting edge design language from the soul" when the rest of us with actual brains and bullst filters can see that they're just plain pig ugly.

I get the feeling that there's a certain arrogance from companies like BMW when they produce things like this, they basically take people for mugs and try to produce the ugliest product, while dressing it up as something special, and expect to make a profit on it.

I'd much rather buy a car from a different brand altogether.

RazerSauber

2,733 posts

74 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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They've managed an ugly 7 series before



But that new one takes the cake. I can't find a single thing about the design that I like. It honestly looks like they went to Rockstar games and had a chat with the Grand Theft Auto car designers, then mashed 3 of them together using a randomiser button.

It looks like the only way to make this look anything other than horrific is to paint it all black


HTP99

23,981 posts

154 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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I was behind a BMW SUV (can't remember the model) a few days ago, awful detailing, weird angles, loads of black plastic, I was just astounded that someone would walk into a showroom see it and go "yep, love it", just goes to show that people will buy the correct badge no matter what it actually looked like.

If these designs were on a French car, they would be universally derided.

CanAm

11,128 posts

286 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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J4CKO said:
Austin_Metro said:
The 2020 is bad enough but that 2023?!

I saw one of these coming towards me at the weekend - and thought, yep, still would quite like one of those.



I just means I’m an old git.
Peak 7 Series, I know its a cliche but it just was, better looking than the previous one and massively better looking than a Bangle designed successor.

Really was a handsome and lithe looking luxury car.
I’m with you both all of the way there. And also the 5 and 3 series of the same era. Then Bangles Bungles came along and we thought things were bad, but could only get better. How wrong we were!!

21TonyK

12,394 posts

223 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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I've had new and used BMWs since I was 21 (so thats 33 years!), everything from coupes, cabs, M cars, X's etc

I'm now looking at a Merc which is a bit of "just try one" and a lot of not liking the design of the new BMs

David87

6,879 posts

226 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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The 7 Series really has had some high highs (E38) and low lows (pre-facelift E65 and whatever the hideous new one is called). Can't think of another BMW model that's been so good and also so bad. biggrin

RazerSauber

2,733 posts

74 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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HTP99 said:
I was behind a BMW SUV (can't remember the model) a few days ago, awful detailing, weird angles, loads of black plastic, I was just astounded that someone would walk into a showroom see it and go "yep, love it", just goes to show that people will buy the correct badge no matter what it actually looked like.

If these designs were on a French car, they would be universally derided.
These people like them because it has BMW on it, not because it's good looking. They're convinced it looks nice in order to justify their purchase.

Truckosaurus

12,625 posts

298 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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Those big plastic grilles look awful on a base model 1-series, let alone on a 7-series that costs as much as my house.

I was behind a new 5-series yesterday evening and noticed the badging has the '5' as a bigger badge than the '20i' or whatever, just so you can easily see what model it is (or to shame people who haven't gone for the i5)

DP14

348 posts

53 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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Ah...the old, blinkered 'Everything before what I like is staid and old-fashioned, everything after is cheap, tacky and ugly' viewpoint.

CooperS

Original Poster:

4,565 posts

233 months

Monday 21st October 2024
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DP14 said:
Ah...the old, blinkered 'Everything before what I like is staid and old-fashioned, everything after is cheap, tacky and ugly' viewpoint.
Is that aimed at me? I just said the design was challenging…. It’s extremely challenging. Someone saying it’s where PR / Marketing are given a free run at a car due to who buys it (businesses) is probably spot on.