RE: Ex-Chris Harris BMW M5 CS for sale

RE: Ex-Chris Harris BMW M5 CS for sale

Sunday 20th October

Ex-Chris Harris BMW M5 CS for sale

You know something's good when a journalist puts their money where their mouth is


Sometimes, things just don’t click the way you expect them to. A bit like a Netflix show that everyone’s raving about but you can’t for the life of you figure out why, or a three-star Michelin restaurant that can’t cook a fillet steak half as well as your local gastro pub. For me, it was the F90 BMW M5 Competition. Don’t get me wrong, it’s hugely versatile with tremendous amounts of grunt and admirable handling, all areas it was rightly praised for, including from Sam Sheehan in his PH review. But, in my view, the ride was too firm, the steering devoid of feel, and the exhaust note too muted. A brilliant performance saloon, sure - just not a particularly special M car. 

So when the M5 CS came along in 2021, the expectation was it’d be a more hardcore (i.e. firmer) version of the already highly-focused Competition. Which, for an executive saloon weighing just shy of two tonnes, didn’t initially make much sense, but most definitely conjured extreme levels of want. What M achieved with the earlier M2 CS was nothing short of extraordinary, transforming an already first-rate sports coupe into one of the finest M experiences to date. If M could take that same nip-and-tuck approach with the M5, then by Jove it’d have something mighty special on its hands.

At first, however, it seemed like M had been a little too conservative with the M5 CS. Just an extra 10hp was unlocked from the 4.4-litre twin-turbo V8, bringing the total up to 635hp (making it, in fairness, the most powerful BMW in history at the time), while 70kg was ejected courtesy of a carbon fibre-reinforced plastic bonnet, four carbon bucket seats, ceramic brakes and some very tasty, gold-finished forged aluminium wheels. Finally, the damping was adjusted to accommodate for the relatively minimal change in weight and the ride height lowered by 7mm, plus a handful of cosmetic changes such as a gold grille and new Frozen Deep Green metallic paint, as seen on the car we have here.

While that may sound insignificant, those little tweaks and upgrades turned a humungous four-door saloon into one of the best M cars ever. Where the Competition’s steering felt a touch numb and isolated, the CS’s was brimming with texture and felt keener to turn-in. A returned exhaust brought a good deal more aggression, an area sorely lacking on the Comp, but the retuned suspension and likely the drop in weight were the most significant upgrades of all. It was still firm, yes, but it was notably more composed than the Comp in Comfort mode. And while the extra grunt was imperceptible, the M5 was hardly short on grunt in the first place.

That’s just my take, anyway, but the sign of a truly exceptional car is when journalists put their money where their mouth is and bag one for themselves. In this case, it was none other than PH alumnus Chris Harris, who bought this very car after a putting together a particularly gushy review on it for TG. He picked the best colour, to my eyes at least, and enjoyed it for just over 11,000 miles before passing it on to its next owner in 2023. Harris was so enamoured with the CS (and who can blame him?) that he scribbled 'I shouldn’t have sold it - part 2' with his signature underneath the bonnet. 'Part 1' must be his old 993 GT2, surely.

Anyway, it’s covered another 3,000 miles since Harris parted ways with it, and now it’s looking for a new owner to up the tally. It’s all yours for £124,950, which is £15k down on what it originally went for back in 2021, but that’s nothing by four-door performance car standards. However, if all you want is a green F90 M5 then there’s this 2023 Comp for £73,500. More than £50k than the CS, sure, but one’s a very good M car, the other an all-time great.


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Paul_77

Original Poster:

1,334 posts

100 months

Sunday 20th October
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So it'll have been absolutely thrashed then!

GTEYE

2,167 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th October
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Probably worth also checking carefully to see which bits of the interior have been chewed by his mutt like his yellow GT3.

I do have to say he has impeccable taste when it comes to cars.

Does his ownership make any difference to the value? Probably not, I’m sure he’s owned a LOT of cars…

I had a trip round the Ring in the M5 CS Ring Taxi, it’s a mighty car.


Edited by GTEYE on Sunday 20th October 05:10

AlpineA110NL

34 posts

32 months

Sunday 20th October
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Well, if you’re really happy with a car, you’re not selling it….

Jon_S_Rally

3,690 posts

95 months

Sunday 20th October
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AlpineA110NL said:
Well, if you’re really happy with a car, you’re not selling it….
Not always. There are plenty of reasons why people sell cars that they like.

200Plus Club

11,204 posts

285 months

Sunday 20th October
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It's a little drab looking in that green. I'd not want to pay over the odds for his name having been on the log book.
A bit "meh" for me tbh.

Twinair

744 posts

149 months

Sunday 20th October
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The one that got away for me.

Looked like the 1st customer had bailed on the order.

I went over to the dealer to do the depo and the paperwork, in the time I drove to the dealer - 1st customer paid up - car gone..!

Ah well.

ChocolateFrog

28,716 posts

180 months

Sunday 20th October
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GTEYE said:
Probably worth also checking carefully to see which bits of the interior have been chewed by his mutt like his yellow GT3.

I do have to say he has impeccable taste when it comes to cars.

Does his ownership make any difference to the value? Probably not, I’m sure he’s owned a LOT of cars…

I had a trip round the Ring in the M5 CS Ring Taxi, it’s a mighty car.


Edited by GTEYE on Sunday 20th October 05:10
I'd be expecting it to be cheaper taking into account the accelerated wear.

stuckmojo

3,269 posts

195 months

Sunday 20th October
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Those are lovely.

But i dislike those seats. they look uncomfortable

itcaptainslow

3,863 posts

143 months

Sunday 20th October
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GTEYE said:
Probably worth also checking carefully to see which bits of the interior have been chewed by his mutt like his yellow GT3.
That was my first thought biglaugh

Shared a Ring Taxi lap with a mate a couple of years ago in one of these. Got out absolutely stunned how tied down the body control was, never mind for the weight of the car.

2pad

270 posts

158 months

Sunday 20th October
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Hope they've replaced the rear tyres

blasos

385 posts

169 months

Sunday 20th October
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Not a great response in the comments but Pistonheads members will go wild with joy when a 3-tonne Porsche SUV is released. Go figure.

S600BSB

6,122 posts

113 months

Sunday 20th October
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stuckmojo said:
Those are lovely.

But i dislike those seats. they look uncomfortable
Just thinking the same.

GreatScott2016

1,489 posts

95 months

Sunday 20th October
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Lovely thing for sure. There is nothing wrong with a car being driven hard, but knowing that, would probably put me off. I know it’s just me being me. Anyway, I do like the colour combo too, if I remember correctly, CH had his M2CS wrapped in a similar colour plus gold rims. My gut feel also was that the price would be a little lower, but what a thing smile

Taz73

222 posts

19 months

Sunday 20th October
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blasos said:
Not a great response in the comments but Pistonheads members will go wild with joy when a 3-tonne Porsche SUV is released. Go figure.
I was thinking that I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the bear 2 tonnes when excess weight in everything seems to be a common complaint.

Not for me this though, always preferred the smaller BMWs, but I like that it exists and appreciate what it is.

IMI A

9,687 posts

208 months

Sunday 20th October
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If only a one car garage this is the one. Love the ugly behmoth with gold trinkets. "My precious" (in Gollum's voice) smile

Permituk

5 posts

35 months

Sunday 20th October
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I thought Chris Harris never bought cars with privacy glass in the rear?

British Beef

2,370 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th October
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Paul_77 said:
So it'll have been absolutely thrashed then!
My thoughts exactly.

Im sure these cars are designed to take quite a beating, but I would rather by £120k investment hand been shagged quite so extensively around a race track.

I bet a few hard laps around a race track takes more toll on the drivetrain than a few years of regular fast road use.

marrow

27 posts

203 months

Sunday 20th October
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This car was sold on Collecting Cars 11th Aug 2023 for £110,500 plus fees...

Muzzer79

11,065 posts

194 months

Sunday 20th October
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British Beef said:
My thoughts exactly.

Im sure these cars are designed to take quite a beating, but I would rather by £120k investment hand been shagged quite so extensively around a race track.

I bet a few hard laps around a race track takes more toll on the drivetrain than a few years of regular fast road use.
It’s a car, an M car at that, not a porcelain vase.

A few track laps will not dramatically shorten it’s life.

Baileyk

219 posts

71 months

Sunday 20th October
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marrow said:
This car was sold on Collecting Cars 11th Aug 2023 for £110,500 plus fees...
Wonder what they’ve done to the car to justify the £15k mark up….