RE: Meet the all-new electric Renault 4

RE: Meet the all-new electric Renault 4

Monday 14th October

Meet the all-new electric Renault 4

Thought the 5 was cool? You ain't seen nothing yet


So the Renaulution continues apace. Following hot on the heels of the 5 E-Tech is the slightly more family friendly SUV alternative - the Captur to the 5’s Clio, if you will - 4 E-Tech. Debuted at the Paris motor show (where else?) ahead of sales next year, this is nothing less than the ‘blue-jean’ car of the 21 st century… designed to do it all.’ Whatever your lifestyle, Renault wants it to fit. And if it can sell another eight million of these like the original 4, then everyone’s happy. 

While much is shared between 4 and 5, which we’ll come to in a sec (AmpR Small platform, battery pack sizes, performance, range and so on), it clearly has a visual identity all of its own. Nods to the past come in the form of the funky canvas sunroof, the grille, LED lights that ape the original and some retro colours - including the very fetching Hauts-de-France Green. If understandably less extreme than the concept, it’s easy to see where the 4 E-Tech has borrowed from the 4EVER Trophy car of 2022. And if maybe not as instantly lovable as a 5, the 4 at least has a look all of its own. Useful in a very crowded sector. Plus there are 670 combinations of colour, trim and wheel, if none of these appeal, before even thinking about the 3D-printed accessories.   

Speaking of the 5, the 4’s mechanical make up very closely resembles the hatch; Renault reckons that around 68 per cent of parts are shared between them. So the same battery packs (40 or 52kWh) and power outputs (122hp and 150hp) are offered, with 80kW charging on the lower powered 4s and 100kW on the punchier model. Up to 248 miles will be possible. New tech means the 52kWh battery now weighs less than 300kg, with no rare earths or permanent magnets, and the 4 E-Tech will be compatible with both Vehicle to Load and Vehicle to Grid charging via the 11kW bidirectional charger. While speed has never really been the point of a 4, the most powerful E-Tech is said to zip to 62mph in less than 8.5 seconds. Of more use will likely be one pedal drive in a Renault EV for the first time, plus the Extended Grip traction control that will enable some mild off roading. 

Where the 4 will differ most significantly from the 5, of course, is in size and space. This is 4.14m long, 1.80m wide and 1.57m high, weighing from 1,410kg. The boot capacity is 420 litres, with the additional benefit of a low loading lip, loads of bag hooks, fold flat seats and ‘ingenious storage compartments.’ 18-inch wheels are standard. If the 5 is for the cool urban couple, this’ll be what they move into with their first pair of puppies. Renault says kneerom and headroom are comparable to a Captur.

More excitingly, there will be very different moods struck by each spec of 4 E-Tech. The Evolution model will feature contrast stitching in the colours of the tricolour, and the Techno features recycled polyester fabric upholstery, saturated blue to resemble jeans. Complete, even, with copper rivets. Yellow features throughout all models, as does a houndstooth pattern for the seats. Despite some familiar fonts and screens, this is surely not going to be mistaken for anything but a 4. The Reno avatar will be on hand to help with operation of the car, if the kids aren’t around or you’ve forgotten how to disable the ADAS (there are 26 driving aids, after all). It’s aided by ChatGPT, and aims to ‘help customers understand aspects relating to electrical functions. It is easy to use, even for non-geeks.’ Heard it here first. 

There are aspects of the 4 E-Tech to appeal to more traditional PH tastes as well, though. Renault reckons the multi-link rear brings ‘more dynamic performance on tight corners and greater stability on wider corners, as well as an improved level of comfort with the reduction of percussion noise’, for one thing. The regen is adjusted by wheel-mounted paddles, and a new braking system puts ESP and actually slowing down in one module for sharper responses.

Renault brand CEO Fabirce Cambolive said: “With Renault 4 E-Tech electric, Renault is pursuing its efforts to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream in Europe… We were missing a compact car with real space. Now we have it with this versatile, functional, modular model with a large, easy-to-load boot. A car able to satisfy a wide variety of everyday needs. It’s a mainstream electric car in tune with its times, with a host of useful technologies for driving and comfort.”

Certainly more interesting than most small electric SUVs, we’ll give Renault that. We’re told to expect sales to kick off for UK customers in Q2 of next year, ahead of deliveries in the autumn. 


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Bispoto

94 posts

79 months

Monday 14th October
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For me this is where electric cars, along with the 5, Mini and Abarth, all make much better sense.

Not hulking suvs.

There I said it.

Jimbo.

Original Poster:

4,040 posts

196 months

Monday 14th October
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Will the wheelbase be the same on both sides?

B10

1,286 posts

274 months

Monday 14th October
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Panel gap between bonnet and front section a bit wobbly. Surprised in the press photo this was not edited.
As an old R4 owner i find the new R4 a bit underwhelming.

sidesauce

2,711 posts

225 months

Monday 14th October
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It looks like a bad copy of a mini.

Pass.

Iamnotkloot

1,599 posts

154 months

Monday 14th October
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Looks funky, decent spec, should sell well

wistec1

451 posts

48 months

Monday 14th October
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It all sounds very practical and it'll probably sell well but not to me. The design looks of the R5 is way more appealing.

Terminator X

16,365 posts

211 months

Monday 14th October
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1400kg? Nice if they can do it.

Seats look great too.

TX.

smilo996

3,065 posts

177 months

Monday 14th October
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Interior looks very distinctive with some nice details. The exterior is just not bold enough. Oddly look like a Fiat somehow. Then again families buying these would likely prefer practical to sexy.

ChrisCh86

962 posts

51 months

Monday 14th October
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I'm really liking Renault's electric cars at the moment - they're one of the few European manufacturers that have been building and selling affordable EVs for a while - and the retro design applied to the 4 and 5 is really appealing to me - it gives them character.

I don't like SUVs, so the 5 would be my choice - but I expect both models will sell well in the European market.

J4CKO

42,890 posts

207 months

Monday 14th October
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Shades of Honda E at the front, does have hints of FIat, ironically it looks less like an R4 than those other cars.

But, looks alright to be fair.

Think it is what people need, small, practical EV's that arent massive 600 plus bhp SUVs or 900 bhp saloons, but I dont think the battery sizes scale down enough to fit in a small car without big range compromises, though for its intended role its probably fine.

TheOctaneAddict

877 posts

54 months

Monday 14th October
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I like that, boxy in a good way.

smithyithy

7,482 posts

125 months

Monday 14th October
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I don't hate it...

Mercutio

242 posts

169 months

Monday 14th October
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sidesauce said:
It looks like a bad copy of a mini.

Pass.
Where are you seeing this?!

And are you really, and I mean really, the target market?

Richard-390a0

2,581 posts

98 months

Monday 14th October
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Reminds me of the Fiat Jeep Renegade with hints of BMW Mini. Just a shame it's not a bit more individual in its styling.

DonkeyApple

59,187 posts

176 months

Monday 14th October
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Bispoto said:
For me this is where electric cars, along with the 5, Mini and Abarth, all make much better sense.

Not hulking suvs.

There I said it.
Absolutely but they've only recently become possible since the cost of batteries has slumped and their energy density risen considerably.

The perfect EVs are the modest sized suburban trolleys but they just haven't been financially possible until recently.

It's a shame this '4' doesn't have more legacy styling cues from the iconic original as the 5 does. The latter, like the 500 is an obvious homage but with the 4 I'm not entirely sure anyone would realise the supposed link without the badging?

Modest in size and weight, not built in China, not using rare Earth minerals or permanent magnet and not needing a lottery win. How are the angry ones going to wail about the end of days and the Lizard overlords? biggrin

Edited by DonkeyApple on Monday 14th October 09:26

Pereldh

593 posts

119 months

Monday 14th October
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Love the bonnet panel gaps

mcmigo

145 posts

160 months

Monday 14th October
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Really like this. This is exactly what European manufacturers need to do to take on the electric Chinese makers. Dig into the brand history, keep it simple and cheap.
Renault are looking like the potential European winners in all of this with a simple 3 brand line up of cheap but cheerful Dacias, fun, retro and reasonably well priced Renaults and alpine as its sporty premium brand.


Demonix

587 posts

219 months

Monday 14th October
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Quirky but inoffensive design, still heavy and underpowered. What happened to the futuristic slippery aerodynamic EV's that have a low drag coefficient and are therefore more efficient and extend range. All I see these days are boxy SUV's or crossovers that cut through the air like a brick and don't handle too sharply as they are too lardy. Yes I could have a Tesla apart from the fugly truck most are sleek jelly moulds reminiscent of a Ford Sierra but also as bland and uninteresting as a Kier Starmer soundbite.

ballans

836 posts

112 months

Monday 14th October
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I like this and the 5 a lot. It’s where electric cars should have started from……Unless you are in the market for a hulking great SUV with neck snapping acceleration.

Looking forward to seeing one with a non black funky interior. Combined with the webasto sunroof I expect it will be a very nice place to be.

Crudeoink

746 posts

66 months

Monday 14th October
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Demonix said:
Quirky but inoffensive design, still heavy and underpowered. What happened to the futuristic slippery aerodynamic EV's that have a low drag coefficient and are therefore more efficient and extend range. All I see these days are boxy SUV's or crossovers that cut through the air like a brick and don't handle too sharply as they are too lardy. Yes I could have a Tesla apart from the fugly truck most are sleek jelly moulds reminiscent of a Ford Sierra but also as bland and uninteresting as a Kier Starmer soundbite.
I'm no aero expert but looking at its shape, the claimed nearly 5m/kWh is a bit of a stretch! Id assume the 52kWh pack has a usable size of around 50kWh so a 248 mile range would make it is the most efficient EV by some margin. I'd imagine it will be closer to around 4m/kWh which is still very good and more than enough for this sort of car. Hopefully the price isn't daft, European manufacturers really needa ffordable EVs to compete with China.