RE: Forget the Cobra - the AC Ace is back

RE: Forget the Cobra - the AC Ace is back

Friday 11th October

Forget the Cobra - the AC Ace is back

Bemoaning the lack of British-built, circa 300hp rear-drive roadsters? AC Cars has stepped up...


With its recreation of the Cobra apparently well in hand (the firm is offering both coupe and roadster versions of its V8-powered GT, with the first customer deliveries due early next year), AC Cars is turning its attention to the second most famous model in the brand’s back catalogue - the Ace. Its recently launched Heritage Division has been tasked with producing a limited run of what the manufacturer is calling the AC Ace Classic. Each new roadster will get an official chassis number which its maker reckons will denote it ‘a true AC and a descendent of [the] historic model’. 

In fact, the newcomer will cover off two variants of the Ace, with one getting the ‘open grille design’ of the later, pre-Cobra cars, while the other - dubbed the AC Ace Bristol Classic - will use the earlier ‘smiling face’ that adorned the 1953 launch version. The name obviously harks back to the period when the Ace was made available with a Bristol-built 2.0-litre engine, although the modern incarnation will have more in common with the Ford-powered cars that appeared in 1961 as AC has lined up the ubiquitous 2.3-litre Ecoboost unit to feature in the Classic, suggesting it will come with more than 300hp and a six-speed manual. 

Despite the cosmetic differences at the front, both derivatives will get the same reworked shell that ‘combines both old and new elements’ built atop a new tubular frame chassis and fetching 15-inch wire wheels. Thanks to UK-made carbon fibre bodywork, AC reckons the new Ace will only weigh around 1,100kg, which accounts for the guesstimated 4.6-second 0-62mph time. All vehicles, the maker says, will ‘arrive with a hand-finished interior’. 

What precisely it means by ‘limited run’ isn’t, for now, detailed - but AC would certainly like anyone interested to know that reservations are already open ahead of production kicking off next year. Prices start from £175,000 (including VAT), which represents a significant saving over the Cobra, which was up to £325k in coupe format last time we checked. Of course, that car comes with a choice of lusty V8 engines and a suitably stupendous amount of horsepower. The Ace is obviously intended to be a bit more subtle, and - dare we say it - accessible, too. Let’s not forget either that any original, in-period example is not going to come cheap: here’s a non-official (but lovingly assembled from original parts) example in the classifieds that will set you back £125k. We know which one we fancy driving...


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Baddie

Original Poster:

694 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th October
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Why not a detuned B58? Would sound nicer in an open car, and kind of completes a circle as the Bristol engine was derived from a BMW straight 6.

Turbobanana

6,753 posts

208 months

Thursday 10th October
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Nice, but I'll take mine with proper headlights please.

big_rob_sydney

3,484 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th October
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How much?!?

No, seriously, how on earth is it that price? Look at the materials cost, and the lack of R&D due to being a small company. These guys are having a laugh.

TGCOTF-dewey

5,871 posts

62 months

Thursday 10th October
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What an odd choice of engine. A turbo in a classic like this doesn't work for me.

I'd rather 50 to 100 bhp less and NA.

Liamjrhodes

255 posts

148 months

Thursday 10th October
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TGCOTF-dewey said:
What an odd choice of engine. A turbo in a classic like this doesn't work for me.

I'd rather 50 to 100 bhp less and NA.
That was my first thought too. This deserves an excellent soundtrack not a modern 4 pot turbo

TheMilkyBarKid

632 posts

36 months

Thursday 10th October
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Turbobanana said:
Nice, but I'll take mine with proper headlights please.
Me too. I’ve always preferred the shape of the Ace and the 289 to the 427 Cobra if I’m honest but those lights, though doubtless about a hundred times better than the original covered candles, just don’t look right to these eyes. Not for me at this price, but if you have the means I can see why you would.

edoverheels

408 posts

112 months

Thursday 10th October
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I don’t really understand these recreations. I doubt anyone buying one is going to use it as a daily and so unless it is much cheaper, why not buy an original?

WPA

10,210 posts

121 months

Thursday 10th October
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TGCOTF-dewey said:
What an odd choice of engine. A turbo in a classic like this doesn't work for me.

I'd rather 50 to 100 bhp less and NA.
Agreed, NA 6 or 4 pot would have been much better

ducnick

1,930 posts

250 months

Thursday 10th October
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I just don’t get this.
On ph today you can buy a nice replica ace with a triumph straight six for £44k, or a real ace for £125k

Why would you pay £175k for a new replica with a Ford focus engine?

LuS1fer

41,783 posts

252 months

Thursday 10th October
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ducnick said:
I just don’t get this.
On ph today you can buy a nice replica ace with a triumph straight six for £44k, or a real ace for £125k

Why would you pay £175k for a new replica with a Ford focus engine?
It's also a Ford Mustang engine though the V8 would have been the better choice.

Don't like the headlights either.

Trikster

850 posts

209 months

Thursday 10th October
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c300bhp (well 292), NA V6, rear wheel drive, manual, c1000kg… well stretching the Britishness a bit but recently got hold of this, Jaguar engine and built buy a team just outside Basingstoke…. Might not have the ‘heritage’ but then doesn’t have the heritage price tag…. And can be as hand finished as you like… thanks Rocketeer.






Earthdweller

14,414 posts

133 months

Thursday 10th October
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Another article where I start reading and think brilliant what a great car, cool retro. Rwd, 300bhp ...

Then I get down as far as the price

B10

1,286 posts

274 months

Thursday 10th October
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Are these new ACs partly made in South Africa and Germany?

jamesbilluk

3,981 posts

190 months

Thursday 10th October
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Trikster said:
c300bhp (well 292), NA V6, rear wheel drive, manual, c1000kg… well stretching the Britishness a bit but recently got hold of this, Jaguar engine and built buy a team just outside Basingstoke…. Might not have the ‘heritage’ but then doesn’t have the heritage price tag…. And can be as hand finished as you like… thanks Rocketeer.





Love the look of that, do you have a Readers thread on it?.

seefarr

1,552 posts

193 months

Thursday 10th October
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That's a very pretty car but the engine's a bit wafty - why don't they look to put an American V8 in there? idea

BricktopST205

1,212 posts

141 months

Thursday 10th October
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Trikster said:
c300bhp (well 292), NA V6, rear wheel drive, manual, c1000kg… well stretching the Britishness a bit but recently got hold of this, Jaguar engine and built buy a team just outside Basingstoke…. Might not have the ‘heritage’ but then doesn’t have the heritage price tag…. And can be as hand finished as you like… thanks Rocketeer.





That is a lovely car and a thinking mans fun toy. The car in the OP is just a way for the rich to money launder. It will never get used.

Steve-B

753 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th October
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As a happy 1973 TR 6 owner I love the concept and their intention...BUT the price is totally UNJUSTIFIABLE in today's world! You could purchase a wrecked original from a breakers yard, totally restore it, and still have change left over.

total epicfail

Richard-390a0

2,581 posts

98 months

Thursday 10th October
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I rather like that, including the headlights (but excluding the price).

Mark-C

5,852 posts

212 months

Thursday 10th October
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Can we have an AC3000 next please?

TerryFarquit

100 posts

134 months

Thursday 10th October
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As stated above - Bristol stole / were given the plans for the BMW 2 litre straight 6 as part of war reparations/ spoils of war.
Interesting to reflect on the subsequent trajectory of those two car makers.
I think some other manufacturer passed on the opportunity to take the Beetle plans / kit.