RE: Epic, last-of-its-kind Audi R18 TDI ultra for sale

RE: Epic, last-of-its-kind Audi R18 TDI ultra for sale

Sunday 15th September 2024

Epic, last-of-its-kind Audi R18 TDI ultra for sale

You're looking at the last non-hybrid LMP1 car ever made by Audi - and boy does it have a story to tell...


It can sometimes feel like Audi’s dominance of sportscar racing in the early part of this century doesn’t get quite the recognition it deserves. Porsche of course has the record for the most success at La Sarthe, and Audi is notably absent from the current Hypercar regs in any form, so its previous (considerable) success isn’t being discussed in a modern context. It really needs to be. 

Back when budgets were far more generous and regulations freer, Audi wiped the floor with the opposition. From 2000 to 2014, the only times it didn’t win the Le Mans 24 Hours was when Peugeot took victory in 2009 and when Bentley tasted success in 2003. Bentley, you'll recall, being owned by Audi. There were back-to-back-to-back American Le Mans Series championships, European Le Mans Championships, WEC titles, world firsts, the introduction of the Laserlights that now blind you on the motorway… there really was little stopping Audi. 

Its first diesel LMP car was the R10 TDI of 2006, and timing could hardly have been better; this was the moment of the performance diesel, just as fast as petrol but with massively better fuel consumption - perfect for an endurance race car. Arguably current attempts to capitalise on electrification with Formula E and Dakar haven’t quite chimed with an enthusiastic public like the mega diesels. 

And they come little more mega than the R18 TDI ultra. It was the car for the 2011 season, a response to a rule change from the ACO that said large engines like the previous R15’s 5.5-litre V10 TDI (!) were a bit much. So the motor was downsized to a 3.7-litre V6, which would become hybridised for 2012 as well to make the first R18 e-tron. That also won Le Mans, of course. As Audi’s last non-hybrid LMP1 car, the R18 is both significant in that incredible history as well as intriguing to someone who might now want to own and race it: a big diesel is a lot easier to maintain, surely, when it’s free from batteries and motors. 

Anyone who purchased this one would surely want to race it, eligible as the R18 now is for Masters Historic Racing. (Yes, 2011 qualifies for historic racing, and we’re all really old.) It’s chassis 107, the last of just eight works cars ever made and with only six left - two were biffed beyond repair at Le Mans. It’s been raced by all the Audi enduro heroes, including Allan McNish, Rinaldo Capello, Tom Kristensen, André Lotterer and Benoît Tréluyer. Once its factory career was complete, chassis 107 was given to Lotterer, the man who put it on pole for the 2012 Sebring 12 Hours - the first ever World Endurance Championship race, featuring 64 cars. Now the R18 is for sale from a private owner. 

Usually thanks to bad luck, this car didn’t achieve any notable wins, but the performance was undeniable. As well as that Sebring pole (a 2011 car competing in 2012, don’t forget), chassis 107 started on the front row at Silverstone and led. It also raced in additional North American events as well as China. This was no mere backup, or bit-part player - this is a works Audi from an unforgettable period in the brand’s motorsport history, with race pedigree.

So expect to pay accordingly. It’s not often that LMP1 cars come up for sale, let alone ones of such provenance. As well as competition, the R18 will likely be welcome at exhibition events, as this year’s Festival of Speed demo proved. Don’t be surprised if the next lucky custodian gets many more invitations to show off their spectacular Audi racing car. And just think how good the mpg will be.  


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wistec1

Original Poster:

579 posts

53 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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That's the word "Epic" from a time when diesel wasn't incorrectly demonized. I pity the fuel.

Rat_Fink_67

2,591 posts

218 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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wistec1 said:
That's the word "Epic" from a time when diesel wasn't incorrectly demonized. I pity the fuel.
There's nothing incorrect at all about demonising diesel. Stinking, rattling, hell-juice for the tight fisted masses. Good riddance.

As for the Audi, a diesel is still a diesel. Crush it.

Zero Fuchs

2,011 posts

30 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
wistec1 said:
That's the word "Epic" from a time when diesel wasn't incorrectly demonized. I pity the fuel.
There's nothing incorrect at all about demonising diesel. Stinking, rattling, hell-juice for the tight fisted masses. Good riddance.

As for the Audi, a diesel is still a diesel. Crush it.
Haha yes. What a curse to put a diesel in a car like this.

Andy83n

495 posts

74 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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"Good Morning, may I speak with Lanzante, please?"

FA57REN

1,149 posts

67 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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wistec1 said:
That's the word "Epic" from a time when diesel wasn't incorrectly demonized. I pity the fuel.
Diesel exhaust fumes are a Group 1 carcinogen, as classified by the WHO's International Agency for Research on Cancer. That is the group of substances that definitely cause cancers in humans.

The use of diesel to obtain better MPG is a text-book example of externality; the consequences are not borne by the first party but by society as a whole.

Edited by FA57REN on Sunday 15th September 08:00

scenario8

7,013 posts

191 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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I distinctly recall feeling absolutely no warmth for these diesel powered sports cars at the time and nostalgia just ain’t what it used to be.

I’m sure lots of very clever people will have been associated with the VAG derv sports car programme, many of whom may have lots of other admirable qualities, but I just feel no love or interest. Which is a poor reflection on me, I suppose.

A diverting read while I make the wife a cup of tea, however.

I wonder quite what the car would be worth? And to whom? And what would be done with it?

Gibbler290

710 posts

107 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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FA57REN said:
Diesel exhaust fumes are a Group 1 carcinogen, as classified by the WHO's International Agency for Research on Cancer. That is the group of substances that definitely cause cancers in humans.

The use of diesel to obtain better MPG is a text-book example of externality; the consequences are not borne by the first party but by society as a whole.

Edited by FA57REN on Sunday 15th September 08:00
Don’t engage with the Gammonheads (Tx, wistec, etc) on these subjects. Waste of time.

Edited by Gibbler290 on Sunday 15th September 08:36

Mysstree

515 posts

58 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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FA57REN said:
as classified by the WHO's International Agency for Research

Edited by FA57REN on Sunday 15th September 08:00
Ah yes, the proponents of lockdowns and mandatory MRNA vaccines, only recently wanted to do the same for Monkeypox.
The organisation thats unelected and unanswerable to anyone yet wants the power to be able to overrule any Government.
Yep … trustworthy bunch.

Venisonpie

3,929 posts

94 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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I think buying this would be a massive risk, you might be able to race it now but for how much longer? Not sure I'd want a diesel race car but that's personal opinion only.

Maccmike8

1,252 posts

66 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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Just doesnt do it for.

wistec1

Original Poster:

579 posts

53 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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Gammon heads indeed ..haha.

I believe they like pictures better than words so let's rent some free space in their heads whilst they suck up and choke on this.






Gibbler290 said:
FA57REN said:
Diesel exhaust fumes are a Group 1 carcinogen, as classified by the WHO's International Agency for Research on Cancer. That is the group of substances that definitely cause cancers in humans.

The use of diesel to obtain better MPG is a text-book example of externality; the consequences are not borne by the first party but by society as a whole.

Edited by FA57REN on Sunday 15th September 08:00
Don’t engage with the Gammonheads (Tx, wistec, etc) on these subjects. Waste of time.

Edited by Gibbler290 on Sunday 15th September 08:36

bmv6197

89 posts

115 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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Diesel-gate, WHO-hating, anti-vax comments aside, I was always underwhelmed by this era of sportscar racing, a lot of which came down to the soundtrack and aesthetics of them. Awkwardly proportioned, and in no way as elegant as their predecessors, nor can you beat the sound of a screaming petrol V8 or V12.

Would I hurry to book my tickets to the FoS to watch one of these run up the hill? No. But a C11 Sauber Mercedes or a Silk Cut Jaguar XJR9… Those are a very different proposition.

Scoobysaurus

260 posts

109 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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Well this thread has got off to a good start hasn’t it

I saw the Audis get beaten by the Peugeot HDis at Le Mans 2009, a diesel 1,2,3.

The Corvette C6R was definitely my favourite car and sound that year

Edited by Scoobysaurus on Sunday 15th September 09:11

Pincher

9,269 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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What’s that going to be, ball-park figure?


740EVTORQUES

980 posts

13 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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Me to track day organiser

‘It’s a diesel Audi, are you ok with that?’

wolfracesonic

7,988 posts

139 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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wistec1 said:
That's the word "Epic" from a time when diesel wasn't incorrectly demonized. I pity the fuel.
Is that you Mr T?

wistec1

Original Poster:

579 posts

53 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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Err No

wolfracesonic said:
Is that you Mr T?

DonkeyApple

61,311 posts

181 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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It's one of the cars that killed Le Mans off as a true sporting event, as the era of VW taking turns to purchase the title between its brands sucked the last of the independent spirit and excitement out of a truly historic event, turning it into just another high cost corporate wkfest.

AC43

12,391 posts

220 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
wistec1 said:
That's the word "Epic" from a time when diesel wasn't incorrectly demonized. I pity the fuel.
There's nothing incorrect at all about demonising diesel. Stinking, rattling, hell-juice for the tight fisted masses. Good riddance.

As for the Audi, a diesel is still a diesel. Crush it.
I was at the FOS when they fired up the McLaren that had won that year. Cue an amazingly savage guttural barking youling soundtrack. I was there again when that Audi TDI thing had won for the first time. It made a noise like one of those streetcleaner trucks and pumped out more black soot than a whole fleet of dodgy high-sided Transit scrap metal pickups.

At that moment I completely lost interest in the sport as they'd clearly knobbled the rules to make it into some kind of hyper miler's wet dream.




Muzzer79

11,691 posts

199 months

Sunday 15th September 2024
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Venisonpie said:
I think buying this would be a massive risk, you might be able to race it now but for how much longer? Not sure I'd want a diesel race car but that's personal opinion only.
Why wouldn’t you be able to race it in the future?