RE: 'Fun, iconic' new Renault 5 E-Tech unveiled

RE: 'Fun, iconic' new Renault 5 E-Tech unveiled

Monday 26th February

'Fun, iconic' new Renault 5 E-Tech unveiled

Once upon a time, Renault helped redefine what a small car could be. Can it do it again for EVs?


Renault, it’s probably fair to say, has not given us a huge amount to cheer about in recent years. Or not as a brand anyway. Obviously, as the Renault Group - i.e. the multinational parent company which also owns and operates Alpine and Dacia - it has done some decidedly brilliant things. But where its subsidiaries have thrived thanks to interesting, innovative products, the conventional Renault lineup has mostly calcified into forgettable hybridisation and/or so-so EVs. In a brief canvas of the PH office, no one could recall exactly what the latest Megane looked like. Or tell you what an Arkhana was. 

That is unlikely to happen with the new Renault 5 E-Tech electric. Forget the fact that the name has a stupid tail (E-Tech and electric? Really, Renault?) because absolutely everyone is just going to call it the Renault 5 - and clearly that’s important because by summoning up one of its biggest and most successful nameplates ever, the manufacturer is proposing that it has built a modern-day replacement for a trend-setting supermini that sold 5.5 million examples over 13 years. So no pressure. 

As we already knew it would, the new 5 very consciously recalls its spiritual predecessor in the styling department. Even better (so far as we’re concerned) its maker says the wing extenders and the light signature are specifically intended to evoke the Renault 5 Turbo. And with standard 18-inch wheels flush with the bodywork on what looks like fairly wide tracks, it’s fair to say that the latest 5 harks back to the stance of the hot hatch, too. Moreover, while it would be too much to expect a car of the same size, Renault has endeavoured to keep it as compact as possible - in fact, at 3.92m long, it’s 9cm shorter than the current Clio. 

That makes it slightly longer than the latest battery-electric Mini Cooper, but rest assured that’s the car Renault is gunning for with the first model based on its new AmpR Small platform. As it has previously suggested it would, this shares bits from the CMF-B architecture which underpins the Clio (among others) to cut costs, although the firm is adamant that the ‘focus on driving pleasure’ has been a guiding principle for the front drive all-electric chassis. For one thing, the 5 has been given it a tellingly quick steering ratio, for another, it has fitted multi-link rear suspension in the pursuit of a superior ride and handling compromise. 

Renault has also made saving weight a priority. It always said it was targeting a 1,500kg kerbweight and thanks to lessons it has learnt elsewhere with the electrified Megane and long-running Zoe (and then applied to both the battery modules and the new wound rotor synchronous electric motor) it reckons the 5 with the bigger 52kWh battery will weigh from 1,450kg, while the entry-level 40kWh model should be from 1,350kg. Not exactly flyweight for a supermini, you might be thinking - but that significantly undercuts the electric Mini, which uses comparable battery sizes in the Cooper E and SE. 

The weight saving is doubly useful because Renault has not overloaded the 5 with neck-troubling power (understandably so - that’s the job of the incoming Alpine A290). So with the larger battery, you get 150hp and 181lb ft of torque; with the smaller one, it’s 120hp and 166lb ft. Significantly shy of a new Cooper SE with 218hp, although Renault is confident that a sub 8 second 0-62mph time and a top speed of 93mph will be sufficiently competitive. Especially as it has delivered a WLTP range of 248 miles with the 52kWh version and 186 miles with the 40kWh - both comparable with the equivalent Mini (as is the charging, with up to 100kW for the former and 80kW for the latter). 

And if you were still in any doubt as to which jugular Renault was aiming at, then the interior certainly settles it. Head nods to the past, check. Natty design features, check. Intriguing material choices, check. We particularly like the front seats - not just because they too were inspired by the R5 Turbo, but because they look brilliant in denim upholstery made from 100 per cent recycled plastic water bottles. Then there’s the two-tier padded dash (very Renault 5) and the manufacturer can even claim 10-inch instrument cluster display is a riff on the original layout. Ditto the air vents, if not the 10-inch central infotainment screen. 

Renault is also adamant that the cabin ‘rivals the Clio V’ for interior space, and while its underfloor battery means it’s 6cm taller than its sibling, there’s still sufficient space for a 326-litre boot. As ever, the proof will be in the pudding (and we’ll reserve judgment on things like 11kW bidirectional charging for supposedly feeding electricity back to the grid and the new ‘Reno avatar’ virtual travelling companion) but with the manufacturer previously suggesting it will undercut the £31,195 a Zoe starts at, there’s good reason to think it might be onto a winner - especially if a suggested price of just £25k proves true. In the UK we'll find out later this year ahead of first deliveries in Q1 2025. And even if it can’t replicate the dizzying sales success of its namesake, we’d settle for the return of an imaginative and truly inventive Renault. Not to mention a first-rate template for the Alpine version that will swiftly follow. 


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cib24

Original Poster:

1,119 posts

160 months

Monday 26th February
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I personally think it looks great. I’d just want a hot one with about 400hp at 1400-1500kg.

suffolk009

5,811 posts

172 months

Monday 26th February
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Sadly, I don't see a three door. And the reason the R5 sold in such huge numbers was because it was a cheap little runaround. At £30,000ish it's not remotely cheap.

j333evo

41 posts

190 months

Monday 26th February
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A well proportioned EV with design influences from the old R5. As a former R5 GT Turbo owner I like it a lot.

Trikster

850 posts

209 months

Monday 26th February
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Now it's starting to move in the right direction - this has a lot of potential - interior looks a bit weird, but only some annoying kid in the back seat ever looks at it from that angle between and a bit from behind the front seats - probably looks fine from the drivers seat...

Range - reasonable if you want to use it beyond the town, weight - not tragic in today's world.... let's see how it drives....

vaud

52,374 posts

162 months

Monday 26th February
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j333evo said:
A well proportioned EV with design influences from the old R5. As a former R5 GT Turbo owner I like it a lot.
I agree... used to drive my dads R5 1.4 (not turbo) and thrashed around in a 5 Campus until I broke it (sorry mum) - some good design DNA in this new one.

TheBinarySheep

1,224 posts

58 months

Monday 26th February
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That is brilliant!

thecremeegg

2,019 posts

210 months

Monday 26th February
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Looks fantastic

Krikkit

26,995 posts

188 months

Monday 26th February
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cib24 said:
I personally think it looks great. I’d just want a hot one with about 400hp at 1400-1500kg.
So twice the power to weight of the original R5T?

I think it looks great too mind, about 200hp would be about right.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

163 months

Monday 26th February
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Good work Renault.

911Spanker

1,870 posts

23 months

Monday 26th February
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Hope they smash it - I'm bored of EVs but this looks like a potential winner..

MDifficult

2,175 posts

192 months

Monday 26th February
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Honestly, I love it! In the green especially.

This could be the new MINI. Just as that brand is losing it's way in design, a weird 5-door that looks like it's a cut and shut, and ditching the chunky matt black arch extensions while generally getting weirder and uglier... here's comes Renault with a car in a similar vein but with stunning design, chunky black arch extensions and a 5-door that looks like it was always meant to be a 5 door.

Yes £30k is a bit steep, and yes I wish it was 250kg lighter and has a 2 litre turbo petrol but if I HAD to get a new car I could see this being in the top 3. Stunner! Well done Renault.

vaud

52,374 posts

162 months

Monday 26th February
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Krikkit said:
So twice the power to weight of the original R5T?

I think it looks great too mind, about 200hp would be about right.
I don't think they are pitching it as an R5T comparison.

Most R5s (Mk2) were anything from 1.0 (Campus) through to 1.4 turbo and the 1.7 (Baccara/Monaco) petrols. IIRC the 1.0, 1.3 and then the 1.4 were the most popular.

J4CKO

42,818 posts

207 months

Monday 26th February
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Looks great, on its own merits, even without the nostalgia element.

It does seem quite pricey but cars arent cheap, and its not really a new version of the old R5, like the currently Mini didnt replace the classic one, its more of a boutique, premium offering, where the spiritual successor to the original R5 is maybe a Dacia or similar.

120/150 bhp means it wont be stupidly rapid like we have got accustomed to with a lot of EVs but it should be plenty quick enough, be interesting to put it side by side with an original R5 turbo.


kmpowell

3,140 posts

235 months

Monday 26th February
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suffolk009 said:
Sadly, I don't see a three door. And the reason the R5 sold in such huge numbers was because it was a cheap little runaround. At £30,000ish it's not remotely cheap.

Jon_S_Rally

3,672 posts

95 months

Monday 26th February
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It looks pretty good in isolation, but I think the big test will be to sit it alongside some other small hatches, as I wonder if it might look quite tall in their company.

suffolk009 said:
Sadly, I don't see a three door. And the reason the R5 sold in such huge numbers was because it was a cheap little runaround. At £30,000ish it's not remotely cheap.
You don't see a three-door because not enough people buy them to make them worth producing. I don't think there are any three-door hatches available anymore. As for the price, if it starts under £30k, it will undercut rivals from MINI and Peugeot.

Spiros115

377 posts

57 months

Monday 26th February
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Really like the look of this and if those range figures are to be believed a genuinely usable (hopefully fun) little EV!

Andy665

3,806 posts

235 months

Monday 26th February
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Never ceases to amaze me how many people on new cars, both ICE and EV go straight to "needs more power", perhaps its me getting older or maybe wiser but I have long since stopped thinking that power = driving enjoying enjoyment.

More power makes a car faster, not necessarily more fun

Dog Star

16,486 posts

175 months

Monday 26th February
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suffolk009 said:
Sadly, I don't see a three door. And the reason the R5 sold in such huge numbers was because it was a cheap little runaround. At £30,000ish it's not remotely cheap.
At £30k I disagree - that looks really reasonable these days, and it’s sure going to turn heads.

Go take a look at the price of a base model Ford Fiesta - looking online now the cheapest one (cheapest car they sell) is £19350. Go up to £26450.

So I don’t think £30k is mental by comparison. Cars are just very expensive now.

vaud

52,374 posts

162 months

Monday 26th February
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suffolk009 said:
Sadly, I don't see a three door. And the reason the R5 sold in such huge numbers was because it was a cheap little runaround. At £30,000ish it's not remotely cheap.
It's not far off.

The 1985 R5 Prima 5d Auto was £8335. Adjust for inflation to 2024 = £24,500.

lukeyman

1,031 posts

142 months

Monday 26th February
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Reveals appearing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLbV7LB8k2c

Would love to replace our Zoe with one of these if we can afford one!