RE: 2024 VW Touareg Black Edition | PH Review

RE: 2024 VW Touareg Black Edition | PH Review

Wednesday 13th December 2023

2024 VW Touareg Black Edition | PH Review

Does an oil-burning V6 still cut the mustard in VW's latest flagship?


When we last encountered the Touareg, it was in its then-new R format - a car that combined a 3.0-litre petrol V6 with an electric motor for 462hp of badge-justifying, emissions-assuaging performance. It was dutifully quick, predictably well-judged and about as interesting as flaking emulsion. ‘High on unyielding confidence and low on thrill’ Sam S concluded at the time, and he wasn’t wrong. So this time round, with a recent facelift pulling us back into the Touareg’s orbit, we’ve swerved the flagship and gone for something a bit more affordable. And a bit less crowd-pleasing. 

It is a sign of curious times that choosing the 3.0-litre V6 TDI no longer feels out of step with the PH way. Where previously a big oil burner might have been the staid and surly business user’s choice, now it looks like the against-the-grain option that only a canny old dog would consider. Not so long ago, of course, VW would insert a diesel engine in anything that moved; in 2023, ticking the black pump option on the configurator reduces your total options from 34 models to just nine. And two of those can only be bought from available stock. 

So the end is nigh. Even more so if you want the assuredness and gusto that comes with six cylinders. Back in 2019, we reflected on the fact that the Touareg was the final resting place of a petrol V6 in the VW lineup (and actually you can still have the latest one with the 340hp 3.0-litre unit) but that’s true of the diesel, too. Remarkably, you can still have it in two flavours: with 231hp and 368lb ft of torque or 286hp and 442lb ft. Naturally, we went for the latter on account of its ability to spirit VW’s largest available (over here) car to 62mph in 6.4 seconds - just 0.3 seconds shy of the equivalent petrol. 

The result, if you’ve been away from derv for a while as PH has, is a veritable time machine. Not just because this motor (in one form or another) has been installed in practically every Audi saloon going for the best part of 20 years, but because its ubiquity and long-standing familiarity make it a poster child for what seems like a bygone era (if we can call pre-2015 an era). The V6 does nothing particularly special - or nothing it hasn’t done a thousand times before - and yet its gruff willingness and burly mid-range provide the perfect grist to the Touareg’s determinedly conventional mill. 

Granted, it can’t quite mimic the sense of indefatigable brute strength you get from Land Rover’s range-topping 3.0-litre straight-six, but the V6 makes light work of its SUV burden nevertheless - so much so that once you’ve got it in the customary groove (i.e. pushed through the hesitancy that greets timid throttle inputs), you might find yourself romping along in a manner that tends to escape most petrol-electric powertrains. Perhaps that’s just because the husky six-pot is unmistakably oldfangled and bluntly knowable. Or probably it’s just better suited to the cumbersome business of powering a hefty, high-sided car. Either way, it seems an eminently more likeable model to drive than the previous R. 

In that respect, some credit must go to the chassis. This hasn’t fundamentally changed in the facelift - you still get height-adjustable air suspension from the mid-tier trim onwards - although VW claims it has benefitted from the introduction of a new load sensor in the roof and some associated retuning. Either way, it makes for a comfortable and capable steer. Much less sporting than the Cayenne which also sits on the MLB Evo platform - but only to the extent that it squares with your expectations. The Touareg never threatens to baffle you like the Porsche occasionally does; yet it rarely disappoints either. 

That sentiment encompasses the rest of the car, too. Its maker has moved the styling deckchairs around on that promenade of a front end, although it’s the illuminated VW logo at the back which tends to get all the attention. Absolutely we’d recommend going for the Black Edition tested on the basis that it swaps out all the chrome brightwork you get with the cheaper Elegance model, even if the standard 21-inch wheels do it no aesthetic favours. Again, the result is benignly handsome when you take the time to consider it. But like most Volkswagens, the Touareg is still more than happy to fade into the background. 

Modifications to the interior seem in even shorter supply. It is very much as before: right-sized for the average family, premium-minded without the aspirational stuffiness and is (shock) way too reliant on its touchscreen for access to basic functions. The sheer scale of the now standard 15-inch display saves it from some of VW’s more notorious shortcomings, although a Cayenne owner, treated to proper switchgear, would likely marvel at the usability distance between Porsche’s latest dashboard and the one installed in the Touareg. 

Traditionally, that would be like comparing a store-bought apple with a pint of draft cider, but it’s certainly worth mentioning that the pair are no longer separated by much on the asking price front - not if you’re happy with a petrol engine, at any rate. The starter grade Cayenne is virtually the same price as a Black Edition TDI. And if you’re sold on the idea of buying a diesel in 2023 - which the Touareg makes a sturdy case for - there is also the option of an Audi Q7 with exactly the same motor. In Black Edition 50 TDI costume, it starts at £71,525. Food for thought if you’re hoping to make an impression. If not, the latest Touareg does as good a job as it ever has. Ditto the V6. 


SPECIFICATION | VOLKSWAGEN TOUAREG V6 TDI BLACK EDITION

Engine: 2,967cc, V6, diesel
Transmission: 8-speed auto, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 286@3,500-4,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 442@1,750-3,250rpm
0-62mph: 6.4 seconds
Top speed: 147mph
Weight: TBC
MPG: 34.4mpg
CO2: 215g/km
Price: £70,320

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Jam_s160

Original Poster:

60 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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As a previous owner and enthusiast of 4 different Touareg variants over 15yrs (including the daft V10, sensible v6 and enjoyable RLine). This variant leaves me even more souless and wondering who would pay £70K for one today? I thought i was mad buying a brand new RLine at 45K back in 2017. I want to love it but definitely cant in todays market and environment.

Edited by Jam_s160 on Wednesday 13th December 14:38

Darnoc95

476 posts

37 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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These are going to be heavily discounted imo. Way too expensive as a private buy & who on earth would get one as a company car. Over £9K in BIK if in the 40% bracket. No thanks!

Firebobby

691 posts

46 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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2 comments? That's 2 more than it deserves. I'd cry if I found one.

terry mardy

24 posts

143 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Steering wheel reminds me of Roland Rat for some reason...

Demonix

586 posts

219 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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At £70k that's no longer a poor man's Cayenne.

Daniel-89u1d

63 posts

30 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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At that price, there really isn't a market for this.

Square Leg

14,943 posts

196 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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terry mardy said:
Steering wheel reminds me of Roland Rat for some reason...
First thing I saw too laugh

gruppeb86

485 posts

20 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Why is a Blk edition coloured red?

jwwbowe

634 posts

179 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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We have a previous generation 7P with a V6 diesel lump. It’s the right engine for such a vehicle as the torque is up to the task and it will do 500+ miles to a tank. The ride lets them down vs an equivalent LR, can’t imagine that is helped with standard 21 inch wheels here. That said would I spec a derv one now @ £70k, not on your Nelly. Would I have one in few years after its value has plummeted, yeah I’d have one over the silly R.

It’s a shame that the gov and press are killing the black pump as it makes a lot of sense in powering vehicles like these. We should be investing in prolonging the service life of these vehicles rather than continuing our buying habits of new every 3yrs with a EV, that’s far worse.

erics

2,681 posts

218 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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collector of the future because at this price, they will sell 1 maybe 2 in the entire United Kingdom.

(probably a great car, we love our Tiguan run around)

Wills2

24,421 posts

182 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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The used to sell very well I think, the first and second generation, I had a 3.2V6 petrol that was a lovely drive but a bit thirsty, hardly see any of the current model about these days.


daveco

4,229 posts

214 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Darnoc95 said:
These are going to be heavily discounted imo. Way too expensive as a private buy & who on earth would get one as a company car. Over £9K in BIK if in the 40% bracket. No thanks!
They'll be bought as commercial vehicles but as others have said they feel cheap inside compared to previous generations.

VW charging more for less with this iteration imo.

epom

12,437 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Not sure why all the hate for this to be honest compared to some of the other recent posts. I think it looks handsome enough and would make a nice change from some of the more ghastly SUV things.

D4rez

1,618 posts

63 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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jwwbowe said:
We have a previous generation 7P with a V6 diesel lump. It’s the right engine for such a vehicle as the torque is up to the task and it will do 500+ miles to a tank. The ride lets them down vs an equivalent LR, can’t imagine that is helped with standard 21 inch wheels here. That said would I spec a derv one now @ £70k, not on your Nelly. Would I have one in few years after its value has plummeted, yeah I’d have one over the silly R.

It’s a shame that the gov and press are killing the black pump as it makes a lot of sense in powering vehicles like these. We should be investing in prolonging the service life of these vehicles rather than continuing our buying habits of new every 3yrs with a EV, that’s far worse.
Service life of a new Touareg, huh? People are going to buy new cars, if they do it is better environmentally they are EV than diesel or petrol for that matter. These cars don't get scrapped after 3 years they go on to the next owner.

If you want to talk about the benefits of a used diesel vs new EV it gets a bit closer but used diesels pump out loads of nasties. Sooner diesel dies the better

theicemario

869 posts

82 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Well the paint colour and wheel design are nice

dunnoreally

1,115 posts

115 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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I'm sure that is a perfectly adequate way of getting yourself and whatever you want to carry from one place to another place. The fact there's an article about it on here says an awful lot about where the industry is right now.

cerb4.5lee

33,662 posts

187 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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I've always thought that the performance and bhp/torque figures look at touch limp in these for the money. So I'm not sure who would buy one versus some of the other German alternatives being honest. £70k for a VW feels like a lot of money to me.

jwwbowe

634 posts

179 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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D4rez said:
If you want to talk about the benefits of a used diesel vs new EV it gets a bit closer but used diesels pump out loads of nasties. Sooner diesel dies the better
Embodied emissions i.e. life from mining to disposal of new EVs are far from good. Like for like EV vs ICE it is debatable on which is more polluting over an avg life as it will depend on the fuel / energy source. No question it is better environmentally to extend the life and repair an already manufactured ICE vehicle and keep it on the road if it prevents the need for an order of a new EV, that’s the point. Demonising a useful fuel whilst there is still a requirement for such a fuel during the process of infrastructure change is short sighted.

Mouse Rat

1,887 posts

99 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Weirdly, there is a surprisingly long thread dedicated to these https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

We are into our 4th year. V6 Diesel engine is a peach and well suited to the car. Ride, refinement and comfort is top draw.

Its just very boring.

Many of these BLK editions were available on cheap lease deals early lockdown. Around £500-£600 per month with 0 deposit.
Those days are long gone, so I cant see many takers now as I wouldn't have spent £60-70K on one.





cerb4.5lee

33,662 posts

187 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Daniel-89u1d said:
At that price, there really isn't a market for this.
That is exactly where I've always been with them as well. We paid £76k new last year for a top spec Merc GLE400d(granted they've shot up in price new since then), and that has a fair bit more bhp and torque than this, plus it is a fair bit quicker to 60 as well. These are in "no mans land" as a new car against the competition for me.