RE: Alfa Romeo 147 GTA | Spotted

RE: Alfa Romeo 147 GTA | Spotted

Wednesday 5th April 2023

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA | Spotted

Not fond of corners, but who cares when there's a Busso up front?


The Alfa Romeo 147 GTA didn’t make our best hot hatch of the last 25 years shortlist for its dynamic ability. There were far more capable cars that didn’t make the cut, and there were more powerful hot hatches out there that are better at funnelling heaps of power through the front wheels without quite the same commotion.

The 147 GTA wound up in the top half of our poll regardless, beating out hot hatch royalty such as the Renaultsport Clio 200 and Ford Focus RS in the process. That’s because, for all the horror stories you’ve likely read about the GTA’s aversion to corners (we’re talking about the stock car here, without the Q2 diff), nothing wins a PHer over like a massive V6 stuffed into the body of a dinky Italian hatchback.

This would be no ordinary V6 engine, of course. The 147 GTA came at a time when the Busso V6 was very much alive and kicking. An engine of such magnificence, one that looked and sounded like no others, that it had the power to transform the most mediocre of machines into cars that would have enthusiasts spewing Italian cliches left, right and centre. Serious dynamism could be left to the Germans and French and Japanese; for toe-curling sonorousness, there was the 147 GTA.

In fairness, even by today’s standards, it's pretty fast. That red-headed, chrome-piped naturally aspired 3.2-litre V6 up front developed a punchy 250hp and 221lb ft of torque, all of it marshalled by the front wheels. Alfa’s quoted 0-62mph time of 6.3 seconds was considered conservative, with some owners claiming that a sub-six-second run is easily doable (presumably in bone-dry conditions). And while a top speed of 150mph is fairly modest in 2023, it was rocket ship territory when it launched in 2002. None of that really mattered, though - not when you’ve got a Busso V6 scoring every journey.

And here's the thing: the 147 GTA is getting on for 21 years old now and, in that time, dedicated owners have been desperately trying to figure out a way to fix the hot hatch’s modestly capable handling. A mechanical limited-slip differential is generally considered the ideal way to tame the inevitable understeer, and a set of modern performance tyres wouldn't do any harm either. Of course, the same could be said for plenty of front-drive hot hatches, but these mods are said to be transformative for the 147 GTA.

Whether you want to get as close to the original 147 GTA experience as possible - or set about ironing out some of the creases - this example is worth a look in. Rosso Alfa with a black leather interior that looks like it’s been lifted straight out of the 1970s (if you ignore the dash) might just be the perfect spec. And with 96,000 miles on the clock, you can mod away without feeling guilty that you’ve hacked a concours candidate (though it does look very tidy) to bits. It’s no bargain bin performance car at £12,450, but how many other hatchbacks have an engine that looks and sounds as good as this? None that I can think of...


SPECIFICATION | ALFA ROMEO 147 GTA

Engine: 3,179cc V6
Transmission: six-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 250@6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 221@4,800rpm
MPG: 23
CO2: 287
Year registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 96,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £12,450

See the original advert here

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Orchardab

Original Poster:

486 posts

133 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Simply lovely.

fantheman80

1,653 posts

56 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Gorgeous, have only got better looking with the passing of time

I'd have one in me lottery stable, with that kit you could add that gave it four exhausts, LSD etc...

CarlosSainz100

582 posts

127 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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These are awesome cars; but by god they like a drink and require a lot of maintenance. They are slowly creeping up in price as well. I'll have mine in blue please with black teledials

Baked_bean

1,927 posts

199 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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I viewed this exact car a month or so ago at a private vendors house, come very close to buying until something else took my eye.

Also the advert is poor, this car is already modified With the diff, bugger brakes etc.

Would recommend.

Edited by Baked_bean on Wednesday 5th April 07:08

rotaryjam

655 posts

108 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Great cars, sound fantastic, look fantastic, handle like crap though

The steering on the is so fast, I believe it was said to be the fastest steering on a hatchback at a time. Which is in itself great but the problem is the chaiss cant keep up so it just doesn't really work.


Pepperpots

371 posts

172 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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There are things you can do to tighten up the turn in, strut brace helps enormously.
I put a polybushed Gta roll bar on my old one and together it made it feel much more surefooted. I never had an LSD either but that as well would be the holy grail.
And of course well set up geo and a wizard exhaust !


fuchsiasteve

329 posts

213 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Beautiful looking car but the EP3 civic type R had it out gunned back in the day without a thirsty nose heavy 3.2 litre up front.

MikeGTi

2,549 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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I used to obsess over these when they first came out, gorgeous looking things.

parabolica

6,810 posts

191 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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CarlosSainz100 said:
These are awesome cars; but by god they like a drink and require a lot of maintenance. They are slowly creeping up in price as well. I'll have mine in blue please with black teledials
I was expecting this to be listed for a fair bit more; prices for the GTA have always been around the £12-15k mark so I was expecting this to be a bit higher given the recent past in the market - almost makes this look like a good buy.

Love everything about this and its 156 brother, but I feel they will always be in the "wish I owned but never had the chance to" category for me personally.

Escort3500

12,334 posts

152 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Despite its flaws, one of the best looking hot hatches ever smile

cerb4.5lee

33,670 posts

187 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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I reckon that I could spend all day just looking at the engine...nevermind actually driving it. This is lovely and I've always really liked these loads.

GreatScott2016

1,487 posts

95 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Escort3500 said:
Despite its flaws, one of the best looking hot hatches ever smile
Agreed, interior as well as the exterior. smile

dunnoreally

1,116 posts

115 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Baked_bean said:
bugger brakes etc.
Are those for when two gentlemen have found a secluded lay by for a fit of passion and are worried they might dislodge the handbrake? laugh

trashbat

6,008 posts

160 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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I love a good Alfa and I really want to like these - but I just can't find the 147 pretty. In particular the front headlights were a mess of two ideas. Both phases of the 156 looked better. A small number of 147 GTA owners did a swap with the GT frontend which was slightly better.

pb8g09

2,688 posts

76 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Desperately trying to ignore the window deflectors…

Great looking thing otherwise, but I do remember when these were £5k less than this for similar mileage.

Imagine this engine in an old GTA-R…

J4CKO

42,884 posts

207 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Was expecting more, one of those cars that is pretty special yet still in the reach of mortals, 12 grand is a lot of money to most of us but its not un-affordable and I cant see that depreciating much, if at all, maybe even appreciate over time.

I am sure there are other cars that will run rings round it but it doesn't matter, you arent buying it to go chasing Golf R's. Plus its got an LSD which must have cost £1500 or more ?

Dombilano

1,255 posts

62 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Hell of a lot going for it, even a nice set of Goodyear Eagle F1's. Rip the wind deflectors off and you're on to a winner

Red6

498 posts

63 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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I still want one of these.

spikyone

1,611 posts

107 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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pb8g09 said:
Desperately trying to ignore the window deflectors…
+1

Why oh why would you fit those ghastly things to this?! Can we please make it a rule that PH doesn't post links to adverts of cars with wind deflectors? There were two or three in that article on overpriced saloon tat last weekend. Apart from looking awful you just know that the car's been used as a taxi or owned by someone that's thoroughly abused it.

simundo777

167 posts

178 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Typical lazy advert. For a car like this, it's such a big turn off for me.

Do love these but you could end spending 40% again getting it right