RE: Peugeot 205 GTI Tolman Edition | PH Review

RE: Peugeot 205 GTI Tolman Edition | PH Review

Friday 16th December 2022

Peugeot 205 GTI Tolman Edition | PH Review

An eighties hot hatch hero gets a twenty-twenties rejig. And a thoroughly modern price tag. Time to justify it...


It’s fair to say the Peugeot 205 GTI you’re looking at here has stirred a lot of debate among PHers. It’s the sympathetic restomod we can finally get fully on board with, it’s a stonking amount of money for a fragile little Frenchie, and it’s everything in between. Wherever your opinion resides on a clearly rather wide spectrum, we simply had to drive this Tolman Edition at the earliest opportunity.

This isn’t Tolman Engineering’s first amped-up 205 GTI, but it is the first it’s delivering to a customer. Following the dark green 1.6 demo car you may have seen on Top Gear telly comes this classical red 1.9, specced by its anonymous, car-collecting buyer to be ‘the best 205 GTI in the world’. No expense has been spared. So while the price of a Tolman Edition kicks off at £55k (sans donor car), the example here doubles that. Then adds a bit more. Some of the premium comes from being Tolman’s first customer – not to mention one of the more discerning that its Rugby workshop will cater for.

If your 205 GTI had cost that much, you might want it to betray the fact somewhere in its visuals. But then the best example in the world wouldn’t look chintzy or modified; consequently, this simply looks and feels like a box-fresh original in the metal. Its lights are now all LEDs, but you’ll have to squint very hard to tell. Beyond the Alcantara wrapped around its steering wheel (imagine how shiny the donor part beneath must have been…) giveaways to truly prove its mettle is limited to a sport button on the dashboard and digital dials.

Yep, those may seem like heresy in a car famed for its lightweight simplicity, but the former’s only function here is to alter the display of the latter. Tolman played with the idea of limiting throttle response to create an everyday ‘normal’ mode, but quickly realised the special experience it was concocting shouldn’t be limited to an equally special setting. So you now get a set of instruments that authentically mimic a stock 205 GTI’s as standard - or a 205 T16’s when you push the appropriated coloured button. The Motec digital display has almost infinite possibilities, though, so you could build Apple CarPlay neatly into it or add a stack of data logging displays if you really wished. The world of the Tolman 205 matches the breadth of both your imagination and your bank account.

So, the car at hand. This one’s predictably had almost everything thrown at it. A heavily refurbished engine, new Motec ECU, Tolman’s own exhaust and a rebuilt gearbox all help power jump from the stock 205 GTI’s 130hp to a mite over 200, while torque climbs from 119 to around 150lb ft. There are no performance figures to accompany the hikes but given weight has actually fallen to 895kg – despite the addition of new security, audio and power steering systems – expect any numbers Tolman does eventually publish to be pretty vivid.

Because that’s how it feels on the road. It’s a bit of a wild ride to begin with; it takes me a few moments to fine-tune the art of pulling away smoothly, and I only actually learn of its power steering system when Chris Tolman tells me about it later on. There’s still a fair amount of muscle needed. This is a car unequivocal in its requirement of driver effort and focus, however overbraked it suddenly seems with an AP Racing kit to haul its skinny kerb weight to a stop.

Which is surely what you’re buying into. Adding a heated windscreen and remote locking makes it a mite easier to use every single day (not that I imagine many buyers will) but smoothing the experience out too much would only serve to disguise or dilute the Peugeot DNA. That’s something Tolman was adamant it would respect rather than subvert.

Its big uplift in torque makes life below 4,000rpm a little easier, while above that figure – and on cam – it’s unrepentant in both its forward momentum and the noise which accompanies it. Inside it’s all induction noise, while those outside (in this case, an onlooking Mr Tolman) feel like they’ve stumbled across a bygone special stage, the rasp of a hard-worked four-cylinder filling the air. It’s of huge credit to Tolman’s overall vision that the extra power doesn’t overawe the chassis, even if the jump in performance is utterly stark in a straight line.

Is it the best 205 GTI in the world? Well, it depends on what your criteria happen to be. My memory of unmodified 205s is that their facets are all irresistibly balanced, and I suspect my own Tolman order would focus far more on refurbishing what already existed than transforming it into something new. And yet I can also see how a car operating at this level would prove utterly addictive; all the involvement and swagger that wee hatches of its era brim with, just with an injection of properly modern performance to keep things interesting. As well as uprated brakes and smart Michelin Youngtimer tyres to keep everything the correct shape... 

The prices Tolman asks are pretty intense, but so too are the driving sensations you get in return. And thankfully you can get a taster of the experience for a fraction of the cost. If you’ve already got a nicely coddled 205 GTI at home, then spending ten grand or so on a Motec ECU and a couple of nice extras could provide a subtle boost in performance and a light sprinkling of modernity for a modest amount of cash. 

“We’re trying to make the car more useable and driver-friendly so people use them every day,” says workshop manager Nick Boaz. “People don’t want to have to get their hands dirty to get their car going.” As the former owner of something similar (wearing a diamond on the front, rather than a lion) I can absolutely see the appeal in that.


Specification | Peugeot 205 GTI Tolman Edition

Engine: 1905cc, in-line four
Transmission: five-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power: 200hp
Torque: 150lb ft
0-62mph: 6.5secs (est)
Top speed: 140mph (est)
Weight: 895kg
Price: £55,000-plus

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Discussion

gsmetro

Original Poster:

23 posts

222 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Errr Wow ! …….

anonymous-user

66 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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No at 55K, yikes.

Like these though !

GTEYE

2,200 posts

222 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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I know it’s expensive, but I’m so glad this exists and I hope they make decent numbers of them.

It’s a lovely thing, the 205 is a genuinely timeless design.

Augustus Windsock

3,553 posts

167 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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LBW2020 said:
No at 55K, yikes.

Like these though !
‘ So while the price of a Tolman Edition kicks off at £55k (sans donor car), the example here doubles that. Then adds a bit more.’

A friend of mine had a 1.9 GTi back in the day complete with a full Dimma body kit AND a twin-stage TurboTechnics conversion.
Can’t imagine that even adjusted for inflation that it died the same % to the price back then...
Sorry, but for me this is stoopid money, and a previous poster said, I’d rather have one restored to original spec than this

jeremyh1

1,441 posts

139 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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I like it but you will get a good original low mileage mint one for a third of the price

mooseracer

2,273 posts

182 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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GTEYE said:
I know it’s expensive, but I’m so glad this exists and I hope they make decent numbers of them.

It’s a lovely thing, the 205 is a genuinely timeless design.
This, in bucket loads.


mcelliott

9,242 posts

193 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Fabulous car, not a huge amount of wedge considering what work goes into it, I remember paying less than 5 grand for mine, a lightly used cherry red one back in 1993, it was toss up between that or an XR4! Loved that car.

86wasagoodyear

640 posts

108 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Does anyone know what springs & dampers they've used up front for this ?

GianiCakes

429 posts

85 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Man hours are expensive. Add some bespoke or high end components, as opposed to standard production line stuff, and you get to these prices surprisingly quickly. Restomodding a Peugeot isn’t inherently cheaper than a Porsche, or any other exotic, for that reason. Very pleased these exist though.

Turbobanana

7,007 posts

213 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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I don't know that I'd want to spend £55K of my hard-earned on it, but if I did I'd base it on a later, smoked tail light facelift car with the better gear change.

Oh, and I wouldn't want the alcantara steering wheel: the original, droopy 3-spoke with shiny leather was always part of the appeal.

  1. nitpicking

Robertb

2,430 posts

250 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Something about these I really like. The price of this example makes sense when you think of it a bit like a Singer, ie based on a 205 GTI but a long way removed from it.

If I had the money I’d love to see what Tollman could do with something else, for example my 996 4S or an E46 M3.

bigmowley

2,216 posts

188 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Well that is an awful review. How does it actually drive then? I don’t need a full Autocar road test but a lot more information about the nuances of how it actually “feels” wouldn’t go amiss. Sounds like you only drove it round the car park.
For my money the power train should stay stock or very close to it. I am old enough to have driven lots of these when they were new and the beauty of these was the overall balance of performance and drivability. A joy to hustle along a back road. Not sure that the extra performance will add anything to that experience.
Lovely trinket though.

xu5

702 posts

169 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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As a long time fan of 205's, hence my user name, if I had the money I would. They just feel so alive compared to modern stuff.

T1berious

2,457 posts

167 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Oh yes, yes please. Nostalgia is the new highly addictive drug some age groups (mine).

If I had the space and funds I couldn't get one of these fast enough!

Boom78

1,389 posts

60 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Superb, if I had the finances/lottery win I’d certainly have one. £55k in todays age isn’t really that much considering your getting a handmade marvel with true retro looks. 10/10

McRors

362 posts

68 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Surely one of the the best car designs ever and if it keeps the owner happy good luck to them. Probably cheaper than getting divorced x

macky17

2,223 posts

201 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Boom78 said:
Superb, if I had the finances/lottery win I’d certainly have one. £55k in todays age isn’t really that much considering your getting a handmade marvel with true retro looks. 10/10
Yes a lottery win and more £s than I knew what to do with then maybe. Otherwise, pricewise, this is automotive bitcoin.

Filibuster

3,300 posts

227 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Absolutely fantastic !!!!!!!

Those who comment about £55k for one being expensive either don't realize what these are and what have been done to the car, or they value their own time and labour way too low.

These are built by a professional company who rent garage premises, employ people, pay salaries, social security, taxes, energy bill, etc.
Also I doubt many DIYer are able to achieve the standard these cars are built to.

sjabrown

1,994 posts

172 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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That is one large amount to pay!

I’ve still got my 205 sitting here awaiting a refresh, but it’ll be to standard or very near to standard. To me that’s where their character is.

s m

23,677 posts

215 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Turbobanana said:
I don't know that I'd want to spend £55K of my hard-earned on it, but if I did I'd base it on a later, smoked tail light facelift car with the better gear change.
Isn’t this particular one £110k plus though …. Plus donor car?
Or have I misread the opening lines?

I guess if I had Euro millions win I’d like one …. Or an MST MK2?

Oh stuff it, I’ll have both! smile