RE: 2021 Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce | PH Review

RE: 2021 Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce | PH Review

Monday 27th September 2021

2021 Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce | PH Review

Half a dozen years on from launch, the Giulia is more recommendable than ever



For as long as the Alfa Romeo Giulia has existed, the ordinary models have lived very much in the shadow of the 510hp Quadrifoglio. Which always happens, to some extent, with sports saloons, but it was more keenly felt with the Giulia, precisely because it was an Alfa. The level of expectation around a proper M3 rival with the hallowed Cloverleaf on its wings meant precious little attention was paid to the models that would account for the majority of sales; that the QF then exceeded all expectations only made matters worse.

Or at least that's how it's always seemed. Which is a shame when you think about it because not only did the sub-Quadrifoglio cars give good accounts of themselves in Italy and the UK, but the Veloce was deemed sufficiently talented to surpass a Jaguar XE in a twin test a couple of years ago. They really are that good; you just might not have heard...

Happily the revisions recently introduced to the Quadrifoglio have also made it to the Sprint and Veloce, which easily justifies a second look. The most significant change is the introduction of a larger infotainment screen with Apple CarPlay and a little more leather which, of course, doesn't sound like much. Then again, what more d'you want? Is the giant central screen of a C-Class really that desirable? Are those new 3 Series dials actually an improvement? Do 64 mood lighting colours benefit the overall experience?



Because what you do get is a superb driving position, dropped low in really supportive seats, with great dials (and those lovely paddles) ahead. Meanwhile the touchscreen can also be controlled by a dial, the HVAC makes sense. and your phone can be charged wirelessly or via a cable. The missing sense of occasion is a notable absence in an £80k QF; in the Veloce, it's much more forgivable. In sorting the basics and not worrying too much about fripperies, Alfa has delivered a decent interior. Could it be better? Sure - but there's ample evidence of just how awry a radically overhauled interior can go these days.

That same logic extends to how the Giulia drives; it doesn't attempt to make any dramatic break from tradition, rather it sorts the fundamentals really well. Even without the optional Performance Pack that brings a limited-slip diff and damper modes, this Veloce drives as well as any rival. It's properly light by the standards of the segment, coming in comfortably under 1,500kg, and the benefits are felt everywhere: it accelerates willingly, changes direction eagerly, rides fluidly (because it doesn't need super stiff suspension to rein in weight) and doesn't use much fuel in the process.

Inevitably. the sub-300hp model isn't as rabidly thrilling as the 500hp+ flagship, but the fleet-footed Veloce is genuinely fun to be behind the wheel of, which cannot always be said of middling efforts in the compact exec segment. Though the four-cylinder 2.0-litre turbo remains unchanged, it's just potent enough to dovetail nicely with the vibrant rear-drive chassis. Of course it's a shame that any Alfa engine only revs to 6,000rpm, but that's hardly a fatal flaw.



More impressive still is that the Giulia doesn't sacrifice refinement in its pursuit of lightweight vigour. Maybe it isn't quite as hushed on a long journey as a 3 Series, though it remains more than relaxing enough, and any additional disturbance seems worth it for the way the Alfa drives everywhere else. It's proof of just how right Alfa got its first rear-drive saloon in a quarter of a century.

And that's before considering the main reason to buy an Alfa Giulia - the way it looks. New colours were introduced as part of the most recent update, with this car's Visconti Green one of them. It's hard to think of a better £700 option, either, the colour elevating the Veloce from a smart saloon into a properly attention-grabbing model. You'd be happy enough simply seeing a car that looks this good outside; knowing that it's also a great one to drive would almost be a bonus.

Let's not forget either that the Giorgio-based cars - both Giulia and Stelvio share the platform - are apparently not long for this world. Which is a shame no matter how you look at it. As proof of what Alfa Romeo can achieve in two extremely competitive segments, they've both been fantastic. And never more so as a petrol-powered sports saloon in a lovely shade of dark green.


SPECIFICATION | ALFA ROMEO GIULIA VELOCE

Engine: 1,995cc, 4 cyl turbo
Transmission: Eight-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@5,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@2,250rpm
0-62mph: 5.7 secs
Top speed: 149mph
Kerb weight: 1429kg
MPG: 32.8
CO2: 195g/km
Price: £42,575 (price as standard; price as tested £44,975 comprised of Visconti Green paint for £700, yellow brake calipers for £450, Climate Pack (Front USB, rear air vents, cooled glovebox, Rain, dusk and condensation sensors) for £250 and Driver Assistance Pack Plus for £1,000.)



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2smoke

Original Poster:

220 posts

118 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Definitely best in class for looks that is for sure,

MrHooky

213 posts

149 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Even looks good photographed out back of the local rugby club too...

ChevronB19

6,370 posts

170 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Irrespective of the car, that is a seriously lovely (and classy) colour

Speed1283

1,175 posts

102 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Always thought it was such a shame today they never bought out a slightly de-tuned V6 model akin to a 340i with ~350bhp.

I've never driven a guilia but the veloce is realistically the quickest one I'd ever be able to run, just not sure if the 2.0 turbo 4 is special enough.

Lovely looking car in that green though.

ducnick

1,927 posts

250 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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I really like these a lot and am very tempted. I can’t get over the B pillar problem tough. If only they had added 4” to the wheelbase in the front door area it would have been perfect.

s m

23,510 posts

210 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Speed1283 said:
Always thought it was such a shame today they never bought out a slightly de-tuned V6 model akin to a 340i with ~350bhp.

I've never driven a guilia but the veloce is realistically the quickest one I'd ever be able to run, just not sure if the 2.0 turbo 4 is special enough.

Lovely looking car in that green though.
Yes a 6 would’ve helped the appeal
Plus for some a 6-sp manual

IMI A

9,673 posts

208 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Lovely looking cars these.

NGK210

3,427 posts

152 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Chapeau to Alfa for creating a 4-door saloon that has a nose-down, arse-up “let me at ‘em!” stance, not a side view that seems to show a bonnet line that’s half-way up the A-pillar.
And BMW’s design team kindly note, and if I may paraphrase Mick Dundee, “Now, that’s a grille!”

Davo456gt

696 posts

156 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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lovely cars, really miss mine.
build quality was very good, and lots of go from just a 2.0 litre 4 pot.

A lot more fun to drive than the 530d I have now as a company car.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

193 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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My understanding is the whole range has proved to be very reliable too.

Every day a journey

1,942 posts

45 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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NGK210 said:
Chapeau to Alfa for creating a 4-door saloon that has a nose-down, arse-up “let me at ‘em!” ”
Hell yes!



anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Traded my Quadrifoglio in for a Veloce earlier this year. It's brilliant. Plenty fast enough and no expensive carbon splitters to worry about when approaching speed-bumps.

Fuel tank isn't massive on the Giulia and the Low Fuel light comes on at around qtr of a tank and drops quickly from there. My 159 was just as eager to remind you - must be an Alfa thing. If I remember correctly I found the QF drank petrol at around the same rate; I'd even suggest it was fractionally more economical if eco mode was used.

They look incredible in the flesh; mine's Monte Carlo blue and it's garnered a lot of compliments about how it looks, from car-buffs through to a passing pensioner in a car park. Which was nice.

As another review said, the Veloce is the one to pick if you want to get the job done without making a scene about it (or words to that effect).

MissChief

7,235 posts

175 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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DrBrule said:
Traded my Quadrifoglio in for a Veloce earlier this year. It's brilliant. Plenty fast enough and no expensive carbon splitters to worry about when approaching speed-bumps.

Fuel tank isn't massive on the Giulia and the Low Fuel light comes on at around qtr of a tank and drops quickly from there. My 159 was just as eager to remind you - must be an Alfa thing. If I remember correctly I found the QF drank petrol at around the same rate; I'd even suggest it was fractionally more economical if eco mode was used.

They look incredible in the flesh; mine's Monte Carlo blue and it's garnered a lot of compliments about how it looks, from car-buffs through to a passing pensioner in a car park. Which was nice.

As another review said, the Veloce is the one to pick if you want to get the job done without making a scene about it (or words to that effect).
Any pictures? I'm considering a change from my 428i Gran Coupe (already!) and I'm not taken with the lower Giulia models, they look a bit plain to me.

Speed1283

1,175 posts

102 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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DrBrule said:
Traded my Quadrifoglio in for a Veloce earlier this year. It's brilliant. Plenty fast enough and no expensive carbon splitters to worry about when approaching speed-bumps.

Fuel tank isn't massive on the Giulia and the Low Fuel light comes on at around qtr of a tank and drops quickly from there. My 159 was just as eager to remind you - must be an Alfa thing. If I remember correctly I found the QF drank petrol at around the same rate; I'd even suggest it was fractionally more economical if eco mode was used.

They look incredible in the flesh; mine's Monte Carlo blue and it's garnered a lot of compliments about how it looks, from car-buffs through to a passing pensioner in a car park. Which was nice.

As another review said, the Veloce is the one to pick if you want to get the job done without making a scene about it (or words to that effect).
Non pistonheads question, but out of interest if you took it steady on a cruise at 70-75mph what sort of fuel consumption do you get?

CarlosSainz100

582 posts

127 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Is there any way to install carplay or android auto into the old multimedia screen either with a software upgrade or more likely a new 3rd party screen? I think this has been done on some BMW's and Audi's....because a second hand veloce suddenly becomes very interesting then.......

RonnieHotdogs

1,034 posts

108 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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CarlosSainz100 said:
Is there any way to install carplay or android auto into the old multimedia screen either with a software upgrade or more likely a new 3rd party screen? I think this has been done on some BMW's and Audi's....because a second hand veloce suddenly becomes very interesting then.......
If I recall it was only the early cars (pre May 2018) that couldn't support Android Auto.

Unfortunately the one I had was built in late 2017 so I missed out.

It was a fantastic car to drive. Not as powerful or noisy as the 440i that replaced it, but it genuinely felt like a sports car in a saloon body.

Triple8

65 posts

159 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Here's mine - the colour really is stunning in the sun! I went for the tan interior too, sadly that's just been stopped though (Stellantis cost saving). Also have the Performance Pack - the ride on the adaptive dampers and the traction from the LSD are brilliant. Seats are lovely things too. A properly enjoyable dad wagon - fits my kids in easily, comfy and quiet, but so light and fun when I'm on my own. To anyone thinking of getting one - test drive a Veloce, you won't be disappointed by it. It's not an Audi or a Beemer inside, but it's all the better for it!

Mr Tidy

24,306 posts

134 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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They do look fantastic, both outside and inside.

But as has others have said a 6 cylinder engine and manual gearbox options may have broadened their appeal - but then I was never going to be their target market!

Every day a journey

1,942 posts

45 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Mr Tidy said:
They do look fantastic, both outside and inside.

But as has others have said a 6 cylinder engine and manual gearbox options may have broadened their appeal - but then I was never going to be their target market!
Having had a look at your 'garage'...thank f****

velocemitch

3,847 posts

227 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Speed1283 said:
DrBrule said:
Traded my Quadrifoglio in for a Veloce earlier this year. It's brilliant. Plenty fast enough and no expensive carbon splitters to worry about when approaching speed-bumps.

Fuel tank isn't massive on the Giulia and the Low Fuel light comes on at around qtr of a tank and drops quickly from there. My 159 was just as eager to remind you - must be an Alfa thing. If I remember correctly I found the QF drank petrol at around the same rate; I'd even suggest it was fractionally more economical if eco mode was used.

They look incredible in the flesh; mine's Monte Carlo blue and it's garnered a lot of compliments about how it looks, from car-buffs through to a passing pensioner in a car park. Which was nice.

As another review said, the Veloce is the one to pick if you want to get the job done without making a scene about it (or words to that effect).
Non pistonheads question, but out of interest if you took it steady on a cruise at 70-75mph what sort of fuel consumption do you get?
High 30’s low 40’s, once it’s bedded in. If you drive it hard you won’t see better than mid twenties. I saw a photo on FB today with a trip meter reading for a 10 mile journey at an average of 48mph, showing 53mpg! And it wasn’t a diesel either!..

Brilliant cars the Giulia, especially the Veloce.