Sucking out ad blue with a vacuum?

Sucking out ad blue with a vacuum?

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Cogcog

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11,827 posts

242 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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I have overfilled my ad blue tank and it has thrown a fault on the EMS as the ad blue tank level cannot be read. I am on the 492 mile coundown to the engine not starting.


I have tried to siphon out the excess but the tankpossibly has some sort of siphon prevention device from getting a pipe down the neck into the tank.

Videos on the net suggest the dealer can pump it out but how do they do it? Video doesnt show exactly how they do it.


Question: would a vaccum pump be capable of extracting the excess ad blue? I see they sell manual and 12v vacum pumps that claim to remove oil and other fluids.

Worth a try with a vaccum pump as they do seen to have different sized pipes https://www.onbuy.com/gb/7l-extractor-pump-manual-...





Cogcog

Original Poster:

11,827 posts

242 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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I cant get my head around how a vaccum could suck up a liquid when the pipe cant reach the liquid level.

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,713 posts

72 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Can you not disconnect a pipe anywhere and let some flow out, hence dropping the level in the tank?

Getragdogleg

9,102 posts

190 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Drive it round and the level ought to drop, hopefully the stupid thing might be able to read the level then.

Monkeylegend

27,207 posts

238 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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I would not be surprised if it still continues the countdown even if you do take some out, probably has some system whereby it has to be reset by the Mfg.

Is it a Mercedes?

Has the car actually told you that it is overfilled or are you thinking/hoping that's what has caused the countdown?

MethylatedSpirit

1,928 posts

143 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Shove a tube in, suck until the liquid (almost) reaches you and then place the end of the tube lower than the body of liquid you wish to empty.

Also, how do you overfill adblue?

ChevronB19

6,371 posts

170 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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MethylatedSpirit said:
Shove a tube in, suck until the liquid (almost) reaches you and then place the end of the tube lower than the body of liquid you wish to empty.
Appropriate user name. It never works, you *always* get some of the liquid in your mouth, and given what adblue essentially is, I *do not* want that in my mouth…

(Also note op comment about siphon prevention device)

MethylatedSpirit

1,928 posts

143 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Just leave the cap off and drive fast round a corner then laugh

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,713 posts

72 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
I would not be surprised if it still continues the countdown even if you do take some out, probably has some system whereby it has to be reset by the Mfg.
Amazing isn't it - we've had fuel tanks and gauges for donkeys years which when they are full, generally the needle stays right at the top and drops as the liquid is used.

But let's introduce a different system on the AdBlue where by if you fill it to the top, it requires dealer attention to reset the system. Call me cynical, but it almost seems like an engineered 'fault'.

shakindog

498 posts

157 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Depending on the car make all depends on if it will sort itself out.
If vw they use an ultra sonic sensor in the top of the tank I believe overfilling causes this sensor to throw a wobbler and will need dealers to recalibrate and sort it.
Peugeot Citroen and such driving it for a bit should eventually make it think long and hard about it then play ball and reset.
If not any halfway decent garage should have the gear and software to recalibrate and tell it to stop being a moron.

It’s an absolute crap system on most cars but got to save the swamp donkeys.
My very transporter gets ignored till it says 300 miles then gets 10 litre and is fine.
I used to fill it at 1000 mile warning but that caused the above issue and a visit to the dealers to sort

hellorent

513 posts

70 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Son's mate overfilled his merc with adblue, the system said it needed to be sorted within 27 miles, I told him to run it for about 10/15 mins at 2000/2500 rpm & see what happens, he done that then switched it on/off, all ok maybe worth a try of that.

silentbrown

9,354 posts

123 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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hellorent said:
Son's mate overfilled his merc with adblue, the system said it needed to be sorted within 27 miles, I told him to run it for about 1015 mins at 2000/2500 rpm & see what happens, he done that then switched it on/off, all ok maybe worth a try of that.
scratchchin

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

43 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Funny how it’s something German again !!
Everything we have with adblue you just slop it in and rinse any spillage or overflow with a hose ,

stevemcs

8,989 posts

100 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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If its a Merc sometimes its an issue with the NOX sensor, If its a JLR car sometimes its wiring.

Dashnine

1,490 posts

57 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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ChevronB19 said:
MethylatedSpirit said:
Shove a tube in, suck until the liquid (almost) reaches you and then place the end of the tube lower than the body of liquid you wish to empty.
Appropriate user name. It never works, you *always* get some of the liquid in your mouth, and given what adblue essentially is, I *do not* want that in my mouth…

(Also note op comment about siphon prevention device)
It’s chemical urea, not actual urine.

Does the tank not have a drain plug at its lowest point?

fttm

3,864 posts

142 months

Saturday 21st August 2021
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For reference , when filling make sure the motor is off and the pump has stopped otherwise you will overfill and all sorts of codes will show ,