RE: Audi RS5 | Spotted

Sunday 29th March 2020

Audi RS5 | Spotted

With attention always on the fast Audi estates, might it be time to start considering the coupes?



Believe it or not, a decade has now passed since the Audi RS5 was first launched. The car was a pretty big deal for its maker as well; not only was it taking the brand into the heartland of its competitors - directly rivalling the BMW M3 and C63 AMG - but the RS5 signalled a new direction for Audi Sport. The 15 years of RS up until that point had been mostly about estates and the odd fast saloon (and the RS4 cabriolet, but we'll try not to mention that again). From the RS5 on the deluge really began: the RS3 came the next year, then the RS5 convertible, then the RS Q3 in 2013, and soon almost every Audi had an RS derivative. This is the beginning of the modern fast Audi, it could be argued, for better or for worse.

But the RS5 also carries with it a welcome remnant of days gone by: Audi's sublime 4.2-litre V8. Nothing quite encapsulates the progress of performance cars over the past 10 years like the RS5's vital stats. Its peak power of 450hp comes just before the rev limiter, at 8,250rpm(!), with maximum torque of 317lb ft (or just seven more than a new Focus ST) not arriving until 4,000rpm, and lasting until 6,000. When new that occasionally made the 1,700kg RS5 a little frustrating, because it lacked on-demand performance; a decade down the line, though, it's surely going to be the instant response, enormous powerband and V8 soundtrack that'll be appreciated more.


Audi Sport threw the Ingolstadt kitchen sink at the RS5. As well as using effectively 80 per cent of the R8's V10, all UK RS5s featured the sports differential (which had transformed the S4 the year before), an excellent dual-clutch gearbox (years before the R8 got one) and the latest iteration of quattro four-wheel drive. As it transpired - and as you're probably aware - the RS5 wasn't quite the dynamic rebirth for Audi that the mid-engined sports car was. That said, at launch it was noted for less understeer than the contemporary RS4, better steering than an E92 M3 (admittedly not all that hard), a decent ride on the DRC dampers and an accurate chassis aided by the mechanical centre diff and torque vectoring by braking.

A popular car when new, there are plenty of RS5s on offer second-hand. This one looks a great example: a facelifted 2014 RS5 painted Sepang Blue (arguably the best colour), it comes with loads of Audi service history, seemingly unmarked 19-inch wheels and a more than presentable interior for your £19,995. There may even be one or two who might say this is a better resolved, less busy design than the current RS5, which is something given the A5 was first launched in 2007.


Of course, all those adversaries that the RS5 faced at the start of the last decade very much still exist in the used market. Around £20,000 buys similarly nice examples of both the V8 M3 and 6.2-litre C63, both very hard to argue with in their own ways as exciting sports coupes. But while fans of each will continue to be drawn to BMW M and Mercedes-AMG, spare a thought for the RS5: by combining much of the modern Audi package with a glorious V8 to remind us of the good old days, it really isn't hard to see the appeal. Hopefully petrol prices remain cheap when everyone can get back on the road again...


SPECIFICATION - AUDI RS5
Engine:
4,163cc, V8
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch automatic, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 450@8,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 317@4,000-6,000rpm
MPG: 26.9
CO2: 246g/km
Recorded mileage: 58,000
First registered: 2014
Price new: £57,480 (2010)
Yours for: £19,995

See the original advert here


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cerb4.5lee

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33,691 posts

187 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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I love a V8 and I love a Coupe. Always liked the way these look too, a very nice motor I reckon.

Drakey52

115 posts

148 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Hm. Quite liked my 2011 that I recently sold, but I don't miss anything about it apart from the engine. Also, a rebuilt gearbox is a good idea, or a warranty. Long story but if the mechatronic goes (itself a 2.5k bill or thereabouts) then make sure the rest is checked at the same time - otherwise you will need new clutches and be landed with another 5k bill...admittedly after that the gearbox was good. My father's 2013 RS4 gearbox has had no such issues, so perhaps just the earlier RS5's afflicted. After a raft of quick Audis going back to a B5 S4, 20 years ago, this didn't impress me.

cerb4.5lee

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33,691 posts

187 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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As mentioned in the article you could be slightly disappointed by its initial get up and go at that kerbweight, especially if you've been used to forced induction engines. There is something very appealing about an old fashioned NA engine now though.

With max power being right at the top of the revs with this(and the E92 M3) it can make daily driving them a tad frustrating at times. However when you do get a bit of empty road they are awesome to rev right out though.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

195 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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I drove one of these to the Ring a few years back.
The ride and handling were pretty poor. The twisty roads through the Ardennes were really frustrating with numb steering, snatchy brakes and bucket loads of understeer. With all the electric aids intervening I found it hard to play with the balance to try and reduce the understeer. Nothing seemed to make a difference.
Maybe a better driver would have sorted it but I was left floundering.
But....and this is a big but, on the Autobahn it was outstanding. On de-restricted sections I was bouncing off the limiter at 180mph! It felt like it could do it all day. So composed and so stable.

I was left respecting it if not desiring it.
As a rapid commuter it makes sense but certainly no sports car.

Leins

9,663 posts

155 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Always been intrigued by these, and I bought my B5 RS4 from someone who switched (after 10 years of ownership) to an RS5. Not been in contact since to know if they still have it though

tril

377 posts

81 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Fantastic looking car and of course a great engine. Definitely more of a GT car and certainly not the last word in dynamism, but doesn't get enough credit for its performance I don't think. Many forget this thing is faster round a track than an E92 M3.

Vocht

1,632 posts

171 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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The RS5 coupe was always a little flawed to me. It has all of the downsides of an RS4 (weight, numbness etc) but non of the advantages? Suprisingly there's only 7cm length difference between the two of them! It's only real advantage are it's 'coupe' aethetic which looks great, but that's all subjective anyway.

For me the RS5 Cabriolet is absolutely the one to get and a real gem of a car. It's lower performance expectations being a convertible help you enjoy it for what it truly is. A beautiful GT you can enjoy that glorious soundtrack to with the roof down on a sunny day with the family.

RS5 Coupe = Flawed. Big no.
RS5 Cabriolet = A European Mustang. Great!

CDP

7,544 posts

261 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Err yes,

Now I need to find twenty grand...

fido

17,293 posts

262 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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cerb4.5lee said:
As mentioned in the article you could be slightly disappointed by its initial get up and go at that kerbweight, especially if you've been used to forced induction engines. There is something very appealing about an old fashioned NA engine now though.
Great engine and super quick but there isn’t any fluidity to the handling. It felt as bad as the A3 Vr6 I had yonks ago. I drove an earlier one against the M3 and also the RS Q3. Even the compact SUV was more involving. Personally I would set the bar higher for a coupe and it should drive as well as it looks - E92 M3 hits the spot.

Edited by fido on Sunday 29th March 12:10

CDP

7,544 posts

261 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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fido said:
cerb4.5lee said:
As mentioned in the article you could be slightly disappointed by its initial get up and go at that kerbweight, especially if you've been used to forced induction engines. There is something very appealing about an old fashioned NA engine now though.
Great engine and super quick but there isn’t any fluidity to the handling. It felt as bad as the A3 Vr6 I had yonks ago. I drove an earlier one against the M3 and also the RS Q3. Even the compact SUV was more involving. Personally I would set the bar higher for a coupe and it should drive as well as it looks - E92 M3 hits the spot.

Edited by fido on Sunday 29th March 12:10
Trail brake

Dave Hedgehog

14,686 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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CDP said:
Err yes,

Now I need to find twenty grand...
after 4 months of isolation you will only need 10k smile

flatso

1,311 posts

136 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Had a ride in one of these, the suspension and ride quality was horrendous. Absolutely garbage chassis tuning, just hard, no cuppleness, compliance or any finesse to it. Engine sounded nice, and it is a handsome looking automobile.

wab172uk

2,005 posts

234 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Just a shame they never kept the manual gearbox out of the previous RS4.

cerb4.5lee

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33,691 posts

187 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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wab172uk said:
Just a shame they never kept the manual gearbox out of the previous RS4.
yes

cerb4.5lee

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33,691 posts

187 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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These certainly don't seem to get much love on here. I'd still like a go in one though.

Gameface

16,565 posts

84 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Saw a late model RS5 convertible the other day.

Still a very handsome car.

Don Roque

18,065 posts

166 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Definitely most disappointing RS Audi I've tried. A colleague of mine had one of these between owning a V8 R8 and a TTRS. The engine in the RS5 is a great revved, spoiled by the lack of a manual gearbox and long gearing. That long, flat torque curve makes for a car that is quite quick but doesn't feel it.

PSB1

3,855 posts

111 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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I had a B8 RS4 and an RS5 cab.

To enjoy them, I think you have to embrace their limitations. Scalpel sharp steering with huge reserves of feel and a honed chassis are never going to be found lurking under the skin of these cars. But as an all weather brute of a car, the RS4 was a joy. A Swiss Army knife of a car. Set up on the correct driving mode, it never lacks power - it’s too fast for the road.

The RS5 cab was of course heavy - really heavy with the extra bracing. Minimal scuttle shake though. Roof down, with the V8 screaming through the revs, it was a fantastic car.

Think of them as European versions of US V8 muscle cars and they make a lot of sense.

Loved them.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

163 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Not for me, but that interior seems to have worn very well.

Audi know how to build a car.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

195 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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PSB1 said:
I had a B8 RS4 and an RS5 cab.

To enjoy them, I think you have to embrace their limitations. Scalpel sharp steering with huge reserves of feel and a honed chassis are never going to be found lurking under the skin of these cars. But as an all weather brute of a car, the RS4 was a joy. A Swiss Army knife of a car. Set up on the correct driving mode, it never lacks power - it’s too fast for the road.

The RS5 cab was of course heavy - really heavy with the extra bracing. Minimal scuttle shake though. Roof down, with the V8 screaming through the revs, it was a fantastic car.

Think of them as European versions of US V8 muscle cars and they make a lot of sense.

Loved them.
Agreed - the cabriolet is the one to get.
I always liked this ad.