Q plate questions

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CSLmarson

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216 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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good evening all

Im concidering getting a porsche 964 that is on a Q plate

i dont know much about Q plate cars and was wondering if there is any way of getting this removed and if so what is required

please see below ro the infomation given in the advert on the porsche if you wouldnt mind letting me know if it sounds legit ect ect and any comments you might have

advert below

Please note; this genuine Porsche car was custom built with predominately genuine Porsche parts from various other Porsche models. For this reason DVLA decided that a correct year of manufacture could not be correctly ascertained. For this reason alone she has been registered on a `Q` plate as seen on other custom built cars and bikes. This plate is none transferable and has been registered on this car, in this country, for some 16 years without any problems. Various methods of removing this plate has been suggested to me but as I`ve had numerous different `Q` plate cars over the years I, personally, cannot see the need to look into any of these options as I`ve never come across any problems whatsoever to date.. In fact, the MOT test is less stringent for Q plated cars.. J

many thansk

Equus

16,980 posts

108 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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CSLmarson said:
i dont know much about Q plate cars and was wondering if there is any way of getting this removed...
The short answer is no, not legally.

Frankthered

1,630 posts

187 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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Once a car is registered as a Q, it is non-transferrable. Any of the methods hinted at by the seller sound like they'd be very dodgy to me.

Presumably, the was rebuilt (or built) from a shell and parts sourced from various other cars. If I were looking at this car, I think I'd be more concerned about the car's history than I would be about the Q plate, although it might be worth checking with an insurer to see if there's any impact there.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

253 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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These days very few cars are such rubbish that they end up on a Q plate. Avoid.

nct001

733 posts

140 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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964 on a Q made up of any old bits.... what could go wrong!!!!


Best thing about having a Q plated motor is showing the world I've got the balls to own a Q plater - if it's cheap enough it is almost worth it.


InitialDave

12,237 posts

126 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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I do have a question (don't worry, this is purely for my own interest, I don't have anything I'm trying to do this to!).

An older car, if built up from a variety of sources, can get an age-related plate by being "authenticated" by an expert (say, a tech bloke from the owners' club) as being "a true reflection of the marque".

So once a Q-plate is definitely into classic territory, could you do that?

I'm basing my question on this: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/reconstruc...

It seems that a car which you would expect to get a Q-reg, if over 25 years old and an expert says "yep, that's all how it should be", gets a "proper" registration number. So could someone with a Q-reg effectively throw it away and start again with their "rebuilt classic"?


marshalla

15,902 posts

208 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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InitialDave said:
I do have a question (don't worry, this is purely for my own interest, I don't have anything I'm trying to do this to!).

An older car, if built up from a variety of sources, can get an age-related plate by being "authenticated" by an expert (say, a tech bloke from the owners' club) as being "a true reflection of the marque".

So once a Q-plate is definitely into classic territory, could you do that?

I'm basing my question on this: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/reconstruc...

It seems that a car which you would expect to get a Q-reg, if over 25 years old and an expert says "yep, that's all how it should be", gets a "proper" registration number. So could someone with a Q-reg effectively throw it away and start again with their "rebuilt classic"?
Allegedly, DVLA staff have said that this can be done, but it requires an inspection by someone from a recognised club ( https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-... ), or proof of age from the manufacturer, not just any old expert.

Equus

16,980 posts

108 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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Possibly, once it's over 25 years old.

... but see the caveat that "they must also give manufacture dates for the major components". It may be that these are difficult or impossible to determine, in the OP's case, so you would also have to discard those major components of unknown date, and replace them with components of known provenance (or at least provide documentation that 'proves' this is what you've done)?

GC8

19,910 posts

197 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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A bit of export and re-import will clear it, providing that it goes out to the right place then back in to the right place. Even for a 964 Im not sure that it would be worth it though.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

102 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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As I replied in your first attempt.

What evidence is there that it's actually a 964, rather than a written-off SC with 964-alike panels?

Are you sufficiently expert in all things air-cooled Porsche to know what you're looking at?

And is it cheap enough? - well under £10k and it may be worth a look. But it's never going to be easy to sell.

InitialDave

12,237 posts

126 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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Equus said:
Possibly, once it's over 25 years old.

... but see the caveat that "they must also give manufacture dates for the major components". It may be that these are difficult or impossible to determine, in the OP's case, so you would also have to discard those major components of unknown date, and replace them with components of known provenance (or at least provide documentation that 'proves' this is what you've done)?
My understanding is:
1) It's stamped with a date (or a way to trace it, like an engine number), use that
2) It's not stamped with a date or a way to trace it, doesn't matter as long as it's the right "spec".


diddles

446 posts

206 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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CSLmarson said:
i dont know much about Q plate cars
Neither does anyone else, hence the Q plate wink