RE: Ford RS200 to return as 'remastered' icon
Discussion
generationx said:
Dad (the late AAGR formerly of this parish) was deeply involved in the RS200 project from the very beginning and ran several road cars throughout the late 80s including the “ultimate” being the only (at the time) red example with leather interior and a car phone. They were troublesome, unreliable and utterly glorious - absolutely nothing could stay with it on a twisty road. It was the first truly fast car I ever drove and I’ll never forget it.
I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
Thanks for posting, love stuff like this I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
Muzzer79 said:
Modern cars are, AIUI, just as fast as Group B - confirming that speed wasn't the issue. It was safety.
Even the Group A category cars were matching Group B cars on rally stages by the mid 1990s. I assume modern cars are much quicker but I haven't watched rallying for several years.
Do we know what the powertrain is going to be? The BDT was a fine engine but very fragile so the obvious choice could be the YB, or something more modern?
The RS200 had the gearbox between the front wheels and these units are simply unobtainable. Quaife do a replacement, so maybe that? Or will the power train be rearranged completely which, in my opinion, will lose some of the USP of the car.
The RS200 had the gearbox between the front wheels and these units are simply unobtainable. Quaife do a replacement, so maybe that? Or will the power train be rearranged completely which, in my opinion, will lose some of the USP of the car.
Tickle said:
generationx said:
Dad (the late AAGR formerly of this parish) was deeply involved in the RS200 project from the very beginning and ran several road cars throughout the late 80s including the “ultimate” being the only (at the time) red example with leather interior and a car phone. They were troublesome, unreliable and utterly glorious - absolutely nothing could stay with it on a twisty road. It was the first truly fast car I ever drove and I’ll never forget it.
I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
Thanks for posting, love stuff like this I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
Discombobulate said:
Spent a few hours testing a works version on the Ford Motorsport track at Boreham back in the day. An amazing car. Quick yes, but what really impressed was the ride / pliancy over the rough stuff.
PS I was a passenger. My brother-in-law was driving. And, at the end of the session, he left the airfield and drove it home to Somerset. You should have seen the look on the faces of people we passed...
If you're BiL was ML I delivered that car to him , and his subsequent Sapphire Cosworth . Second week he had it as a "company car" it was used as course car on the Longleat Stages . One careful owner could not be used as a selling point PS I was a passenger. My brother-in-law was driving. And, at the end of the session, he left the airfield and drove it home to Somerset. You should have seen the look on the faces of people we passed...
Gecko1978 said:
s m said:
Gecko1978 said:
I loved this untill the very last sentence "true petrol head". Just like the pro drive car that was a half million pound copy of cars you could pick up for 20k or less for many years ( not a p1 but a wrx sti etc). If it's 6 figures then it's an investment not an enthusiast car.
I miss the EVO Imprezs Focus RS days they were cars people.loved and could afford. I had a wee it was great but this may as well have a ferrari badge on it etc I am never likely to even see one in the flesh.
That aside I think it will be a great bit of kit but if I had the money the Kimora for me
Too much info I miss the EVO Imprezs Focus RS days they were cars people.loved and could afford. I had a wee it was great but this may as well have a ferrari badge on it etc I am never likely to even see one in the flesh.
That aside I think it will be a great bit of kit but if I had the money the Kimora for me
generationx said:
Do we know what the powertrain is going to be? The BDT was a fine engine but very fragile so the obvious choice could be the YB, or something more modern?
The RS200 had the gearbox between the front wheels and these units are simply unobtainable. Quaife do a replacement, so maybe that? Or will the power train be rearranged completely which, in my opinion, will lose some of the USP of the car.
Yeah I was wondering if they would try and replicate the original's crazy 4wd system https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a38092769.... Would make more sense to keep it 2wd and spend the money on something else unless there's a 4wd system they can steal from elsewhere.The RS200 had the gearbox between the front wheels and these units are simply unobtainable. Quaife do a replacement, so maybe that? Or will the power train be rearranged completely which, in my opinion, will lose some of the USP of the car.
It really depends how much of a “continuation” this will actually be. All the major players in Group B approached the formula differently, the Ford had a mid engine layout with the engine driving forward to a front gearbox/differential/transfer unit which then drove back to the rear axle (for those who don’t know):
Then there’s the chassis. The original had an aluminium honeycomb construction. Will they do this? I guess we’ll find out eventually
Then there’s the chassis. The original had an aluminium honeycomb construction. Will they do this? I guess we’ll find out eventually
unpc said:
As i work in the low volume high end vehicle sphere and based just down the road from Boreham and a big RS200 fan, I'm more than a little intrigued by this. Their website contains no information about Boreham Motorworks or where it's based (if at all) and even less about the product. There's precious little info about the parent company either and their accounts make interesting reading.
I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
I look forward to being proved wrong.
Fun fact, my old man got driven by Stig Blomqvist in an RS200 around the Boreham test circuit and it scared the crap out of him.
Stig crashed one at Boreham.I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
I look forward to being proved wrong.
Fun fact, my old man got driven by Stig Blomqvist in an RS200 around the Boreham test circuit and it scared the crap out of him.
As an aside, another story from my Boreham days.
It was the press launch of the Escort Cosworth and Penti Airikkala was doing demo drives. I was in the back, my brother was in the passenger seat.
As we headed down the back straight at high speed towards the sharp right hander at the end Penti left the braking way too late, feinted to go around the bend, then straightened up and shot off down an escape road. You should have seen the look on my brother's face as Penti squeezed his knee and said: "I'm good, but not that bloody good." A party piece I suspect he had done many times.
Edited by Discombobulate on Wednesday 26th June 13:20
generationx said:
Dad (the late AAGR formerly of this parish) was deeply involved in the RS200 project from the very beginning and ran several road cars throughout the late 80s including the “ultimate” being the only (at the time) red example with leather interior and a car phone. They were troublesome, unreliable and utterly glorious - absolutely nothing could stay with it on a twisty road. It was the first truly fast car I ever drove and I’ll never forget it.
Later, during my Ford technical apprenticeship, I had several rides in the rally cars at Boreham, and one of my projects was helping build up a show car from parts, which I believe now resides in their Heritage Collection.
I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
What was your father's name? I must have met him.Later, during my Ford technical apprenticeship, I had several rides in the rally cars at Boreham, and one of my projects was helping build up a show car from parts, which I believe now resides in their Heritage Collection.
I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
Edited by generationx on Tuesday 25th June 18:00
Discombobulate said:
generationx said:
Dad (the late AAGR formerly of this parish) was deeply involved in the RS200 project from the very beginning and ran several road cars throughout the late 80s including the “ultimate” being the only (at the time) red example with leather interior and a car phone. They were troublesome, unreliable and utterly glorious - absolutely nothing could stay with it on a twisty road. It was the first truly fast car I ever drove and I’ll never forget it.
Later, during my Ford technical apprenticeship, I had several rides in the rally cars at Boreham, and one of my projects was helping build up a show car from parts, which I believe now resides in their Heritage Collection.
I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
What was your father's name? I must have met him.Later, during my Ford technical apprenticeship, I had several rides in the rally cars at Boreham, and one of my projects was helping build up a show car from parts, which I believe now resides in their Heritage Collection.
I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
Edited by generationx on Tuesday 25th June 18:00
generationx said:
He was Graham Robson (prolific motoring author). I was helping out at the Escort event with Pentti, I expect our paths have crossed before!
Small world. 
Your father was, and is still, much respected in motorsport circles. And rightly so.
Edited by Discombobulate on Wednesday 26th June 23:17
fttm said:
If you're BiL was ML I delivered that car to him , and his subsequent Sapphire Cosworth . Second week he had it as a "company car" it was used as course car on the Longleat Stages . One careful owner could not be used as a selling point
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