RE: 2025 BMW M5 prototype (G90) | PH Review
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It's like the BMW design team have been tasked with sabotaging the brand. The M2 is the worst example of it but it looks like a different designer is responsible for each body panel and none of them have ever met.
Is this the most un-M M car they've ever made? I'm sure the journalists will rave about it on their all expenses paid test drives but no thanks, not for me.
Is this the most un-M M car they've ever made? I'm sure the journalists will rave about it on their all expenses paid test drives but no thanks, not for me.
How often in the last 10 years has a new performance car at this level been launched that is slower and has a poorer power to weight ratio than its predecessor?
Say the hybrid system accounts for 200kg of the weight gain, where does the other 300kg come from? its not like the F90 was a featherweight in the first place.
Say the hybrid system accounts for 200kg of the weight gain, where does the other 300kg come from? its not like the F90 was a featherweight in the first place.
Aids0G said:
How often in the last 10 years has a new performance car at this level been launched that is slower and has a poorer power to weight ratio than its predecessor?
I don't think it happens very often as you say. It makes me really appreciate my F82 M4 to be honest, because when that launched back in 2014, it was not only faster than the previous generation E92 M3, but it was also lighter too.
honda_exige said:
Think it says a lot that now Porsche has hybridised the 911 they've made it substantially faster and only 50kg heavier.
BMW on the otherhand have hybridised the M5 and somehow managed to make it slower and 500kg heavier. Incredible achievement that.
To be fair it's a completely different kind of hybrid (and perhaps one that BMW should have done rather than the plug in) but I'm not sure substantially faster stands up for the 911 either, lets face it they are up against the law of diminishing returns. BMW on the otherhand have hybridised the M5 and somehow managed to make it slower and 500kg heavier. Incredible achievement that.
old vs new over the 1/4 mile
mclwanB said:
MrBogSmith said:
2400kg!
Beat me to it. 500kg heavier than the last, 3000kg for next generation?The footprint will stay the same and battery capacity and size will probably improve. The F10 > F90 > G90 aren't that far apart in size. Similar to the VW Golf Mk5 to current Mk8 Golf....
The only way it jumps massively in kerb is if it goes totally electric and promises a mega range.
cerb4.5lee said:
I don't think it happens very often as you say.
It makes me really appreciate my F82 M4 to be honest, because when that launched back in 2014, it was not only faster than the previous generation E92 M3, but it was also lighter too.
Yeah in performance terms and weight the F8* was a real step forward over the e9" they did via a taller and wider torque band and weight reduction rather than a massive headline power hike, but let's not talk about the noise It makes me really appreciate my F82 M4 to be honest, because when that launched back in 2014, it was not only faster than the previous generation E92 M3, but it was also lighter too.
I seen a few new 5 series out and about and I’m not a fan. I like the colour though combo though. But how much does a X5M weigh? I’d rather take that, more practical, more suspension travel, comfier, bigger profile tyres, tow bar, better daily 98% of the time, maybe doesn’t handle quite as well on the limit which I don’t really care about in a daily work horse.
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