RE: Ford RS200 to return as 'remastered' icon
Discussion
Tickle said:
This story always stuck with me regarding Group B crowds, extracted from Motorsport Magazine for ref below
And in many other countries rallying was even more popular: everyone has seen the photographs of Rally Portugal in its heyday, where spectators used to try and touch the cars as they drove past. There’s an urban legend about a Lancia mechanic apparently finding a finger in the air intake of an 037. It might just be true.
Fingers found on the radiator of the 205 T16 (may have also happened with another car to be fair...)And in many other countries rallying was even more popular: everyone has seen the photographs of Rally Portugal in its heyday, where spectators used to try and touch the cars as they drove past. There’s an urban legend about a Lancia mechanic apparently finding a finger in the air intake of an 037. It might just be true.
2:50 onwards.....
Have we got to the stage where nobody can come up with an original idea anymore? Everything is just remaking or rehashing old stuff. If you really want an RS200 that isn't really an RS200 there are already replica kitcars out there. Maybe I should start building those and selling them for £1m each if it gets the investor types all frothy with excitement. Only issue is whether there are enough old Sierra dashboards left for them all.
Gary C said:
Indeed. Group S was to follow group B requiring manufactures to only make 10 cars but limited to around 300HP.
However when an RS200 left the road near Sintra and killed people, both were cancelled in a kneejerk reaction which I suppose is understandable even if it was disappointing.
Its a shame as it wasn't really the cars fault, just the 'madnes's of allowing spectators to stand on the track with no real control and Portugal spectators were the worst, crowds standing in the middle of the road and jumping out of the way just in time to let the cars through.
"Der schwarze Vulkan", and one of my own personal heroes, Michele Mouton was tasked by the FIA with trying to improve this. There are amusing videos on YouTube of her not being somebody one would argue with.However when an RS200 left the road near Sintra and killed people, both were cancelled in a kneejerk reaction which I suppose is understandable even if it was disappointing.
Its a shame as it wasn't really the cars fault, just the 'madnes's of allowing spectators to stand on the track with no real control and Portugal spectators were the worst, crowds standing in the middle of the road and jumping out of the way just in time to let the cars through.
smithyithy said:
Tickle said:
This story always stuck with me regarding Group B crowds, extracted from Motorsport Magazine for ref below
And in many other countries rallying was even more popular: everyone has seen the photographs of Rally Portugal in its heyday, where spectators used to try and touch the cars as they drove past. There’s an urban legend about a Lancia mechanic apparently finding a finger in the air intake of an 037. It might just be true.
Fingers found on the radiator of the 205 T16 (may have also happened with another car to be fair...)And in many other countries rallying was even more popular: everyone has seen the photographs of Rally Portugal in its heyday, where spectators used to try and touch the cars as they drove past. There’s an urban legend about a Lancia mechanic apparently finding a finger in the air intake of an 037. It might just be true.
2:50 onwards.....
I wonder if anyone ever stumbled to the rally team area in-between stages looking for missing digits!
s m said:
Gecko1978 said:
I loved this untill the very last sentence "true petrol head". Just like the pro drive car that was a half million pound copy of cars you could pick up for 20k or less for many years ( not a p1 but a wrx sti etc). If it's 6 figures then it's an investment not an enthusiast car.
I miss the EVO Imprezs Focus RS days they were cars people.loved and could afford. I had a wee it was great but this may as well have a ferrari badge on it etc I am never likely to even see one in the flesh.
That aside I think it will be a great bit of kit but if I had the money the Kimora for me
Too much info I miss the EVO Imprezs Focus RS days they were cars people.loved and could afford. I had a wee it was great but this may as well have a ferrari badge on it etc I am never likely to even see one in the flesh.
That aside I think it will be a great bit of kit but if I had the money the Kimora for me
thegreenhell said:
Have we got to the stage where nobody can come up with an original idea anymore? Everything is just remaking or rehashing old stuff. If you really want an RS200 that isn't really an RS200 there are already replica kitcars out there. Maybe I should start building those and selling them for £1m each if it gets the investor types all frothy with excitement. Only issue is whether there are enough old Sierra dashboards left for them all.
Kind of agree with this. It's all a bit easy and lazy isn't it? Pick a classic, (80s probably works best for the arches) fit wider track and arches, add bigger wheels, LED lights, retrim the interior, slap a £800k+ price on it.I'd be more interested in seeing a modern reinterpretation of such things - how might it have evolved? What if they versioned one for endurance? Even how a modern interpretation of a livery....
thegreenhell said:
Have we got to the stage where nobody can come up with an original idea anymore? Everything is just remaking or rehashing old stuff. If you really want an RS200 that isn't really an RS200 there are already replica kitcars out there. Maybe I should start building those and selling them for £1m each if it gets the investor types all frothy with excitement. Only issue is whether there are enough old Sierra dashboards left for them all.
you could probably do it and sell them for loads, it's not like others aren't doing hugely expensive restromodsGecko1978 said:
I loved this untill the very last sentence "true petrol head". Just like the pro drive car that was a half million pound copy of cars you could pick up for 20k or less for many years ( not a p1 but a wrx sti etc). If it's 6 figures then it's an investment not an enthusiast car.
I miss the EVO Imprezs Focus RS days they were cars people.loved and could afford. I had a wee it was great but this may as well have a ferrari badge on it etc I am never likely to even see one in the flesh.
That aside I think it will be a great bit of kit but if I had the money the Kimora for me
I think the only 'evo/impreza' car atm is the 450hp MG at £35k, cheap 4wd power that's affordable, the dynamics not quite as good though!I miss the EVO Imprezs Focus RS days they were cars people.loved and could afford. I had a wee it was great but this may as well have a ferrari badge on it etc I am never likely to even see one in the flesh.
That aside I think it will be a great bit of kit but if I had the money the Kimora for me
As i work in the low volume high end vehicle sphere and based just down the road from Boreham and a big RS200 fan, I'm more than a little intrigued by this. Their website contains no information about Boreham Motorworks or where it's based (if at all) and even less about the product. There's precious little info about the parent company either and their accounts make interesting reading.
I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
I look forward to being proved wrong.
Fun fact, my old man got driven by Stig Blomqvist in an RS200 around the Boreham test circuit and it scared the crap out of him.
I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
I look forward to being proved wrong.
Fun fact, my old man got driven by Stig Blomqvist in an RS200 around the Boreham test circuit and it scared the crap out of him.
unpc said:
As i work in the low volume high end vehicle sphere and based just down the road from Boreham and a big RS200 fan, I'm more than a little intrigued by this. Their website contains no information about Boreham Motorworks or where it's based (if at all) and even less about the product. There's precious little info about the parent company either and their accounts make interesting reading.
Indeed, the Companies House website is a useful source of information. unpc said:
As i work in the low volume high end vehicle sphere and based just down the road from Boreham and a big RS200 fan, I'm more than a little intrigued by this. Their website contains no information about Boreham Motorworks or where it's based (if at all) and even less about the product. There's precious little info about the parent company either and their accounts make interesting reading.
I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
The car is being developed/manufactured by the DRVN group.I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
The does company exist and has employees.
RS200 continuation - speechless when I found out. For me I've been hoping someone would do it one day. Never been this much wanting something since I was offered the new Ford GT....... The want is as strong as an F40.... still can't believe it. I'm taking a drive to Alan Mann to find out more.....wow
wemorgan said:
unpc said:
As i work in the low volume high end vehicle sphere and based just down the road from Boreham and a big RS200 fan, I'm more than a little intrigued by this. Their website contains no information about Boreham Motorworks or where it's based (if at all) and even less about the product. There's precious little info about the parent company either and their accounts make interesting reading.
I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
The car is being developed/manufactured by the DRVN group.I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
The does company exist and has employees.
bwoah said:
I had no idea Boreham Motorworks was owned by the Darren/JWW group they've set up.
News out recently that they're working on a modern RS200 and MK1 Escort with blessings from Ford. Pretty big coup for them by the sounds of it
For anyone that missed it: https://borehammotorworks.com/
News out recently that they're working on a modern RS200 and MK1 Escort with blessings from Ford. Pretty big coup for them by the sounds of it
For anyone that missed it: https://borehammotorworks.com/
WPA said:
wemorgan said:
unpc said:
As i work in the low volume high end vehicle sphere and based just down the road from Boreham and a big RS200 fan, I'm more than a little intrigued by this. Their website contains no information about Boreham Motorworks or where it's based (if at all) and even less about the product. There's precious little info about the parent company either and their accounts make interesting reading.
I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
The car is being developed/manufactured by the DRVN group.I'm going to call it. Vapourware!
The does company exist and has employees.
bwoah said:
I had no idea Boreham Motorworks was owned by the Darren/JWW group they've set up.
News out recently that they're working on a modern RS200 and MK1 Escort with blessings from Ford. Pretty big coup for them by the sounds of it
For anyone that missed it: https://borehammotorworks.com/
News out recently that they're working on a modern RS200 and MK1 Escort with blessings from Ford. Pretty big coup for them by the sounds of it
For anyone that missed it: https://borehammotorworks.com/
Dad (the late AAGR formerly of this parish) was deeply involved in the RS200 project from the very beginning and ran several road cars throughout the late 80s including the “ultimate” being the only (at the time) red example with leather interior and a car phone. They were troublesome, unreliable and utterly glorious - absolutely nothing could stay with it on a twisty road. It was the first truly fast car I ever drove and I’ll never forget it.
Later, during my Ford technical apprenticeship, I had several rides in the rally cars at Boreham, and one of my projects was helping build up a show car from parts, which I believe now resides in their Heritage Collection.
I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
Later, during my Ford technical apprenticeship, I had several rides in the rally cars at Boreham, and one of my projects was helping build up a show car from parts, which I believe now resides in their Heritage Collection.
I’m intrigued, and not a little cynical, about this project but have signed up for updates as they come. We’ll see where this goes.
Dad’s last one, parked outside our garage at home:
Edited by generationx on Tuesday 25th June 18:00
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