Bahnstorming Speeds
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I do a long Euro jaunt about four times per year and haven't found a speed yet that my B5 isn't happy at.
Biggest problem is that anything above 130mph you are doing double what people expect, closing distance in a much smaller window, so you really need your wits about you, for that reason alone I actually tend to cruise at much lower speeds and just relax.
I still speed, but 150kph is the norm now. Probably won't get the car confiscated at that either.
Biggest problem is that anything above 130mph you are doing double what people expect, closing distance in a much smaller window, so you really need your wits about you, for that reason alone I actually tend to cruise at much lower speeds and just relax.
I still speed, but 150kph is the norm now. Probably won't get the car confiscated at that either.
DonkeyApple said:
Things like my old Griff were much more pleasant around 100-120 just because of noise and that Tivs start to lift around 140. The Typhon had actually seen a wind tunnel due to being the Le Mans car and that still felt planted at 180 but the noise inside a bare carbon fibre container was shocking. Previous TVRs had been quite the opposite at 160-170. Just not really suitable other than for singular moments of fun. I've just been through Germany in a GT3 RS and that was very similar. Planted but the noise becomes annoying.
I took the Cerbera to 160 once, and that felt like it wanted to take off at that speed! Exciting for sure, but I'm not sure if I'd want to go much quicker than that in it though as you say. The engine gets properly noisy at high speed in the Cerb too. I've done 140 in the 370Z with the roof and the windows down, and that just got on with it in fairness to it. I might see what it will do roof up one day I reckon.
dcb said:
Haltamer said:
Just back from a quick weekend in Germany - Aside from a few patches of roadworks (The Autobahn classic!) found it was relatively smooth, low traffic sailing.
I was managing around 220 - 230Kmh as a relatively "Comfortable" cruising speed in the FK8 on the suitable sections;
Each to their own, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing those sortsI was managing around 220 - 230Kmh as a relatively "Comfortable" cruising speed in the FK8 on the suitable sections;
of speeds in something as small as a Honda Civic.
Baldchap said:
I do a long Euro jaunt about four times per year and haven't found a speed yet that my B5 isn't happy at.
Biggest problem is that anything above 130mph you are doing double what people expect, closing distance in a much smaller window, so you really need your wits about you, for that reason alone I actually tend to cruise at much lower speeds and just relax.
I still speed, but 150kph is the norm now. Probably won't get the car confiscated at that either.
Yup, 145/150ish all day long on restricted roads. Always seems a good compromise re noise, traffic moving across and number of fuel stops. Biggest problem is that anything above 130mph you are doing double what people expect, closing distance in a much smaller window, so you really need your wits about you, for that reason alone I actually tend to cruise at much lower speeds and just relax.
I still speed, but 150kph is the norm now. Probably won't get the car confiscated at that either.
It is the basic cruising pace for the M40 after all.
cerb4.5lee said:
I took the Cerbera to 160 once, and that felt like it wanted to take off at that speed! Exciting for sure, but I'm not sure if I'd want to go much quicker than that in it though as you say. The engine gets properly noisy at high speed in the Cerb too.
I've done 140 in the 370Z with the roof and the windows down, and that just got on with it in fairness to it. I might see what it will do roof up one day I reckon.
Funny you should say that...I just came back from an Euro Tour where I used a (Fairlady) 350Z coupe. When driving through Germany I only dared to push the Zed up to a gps verified 140mph for a stretch. As you said with the 370Z, it just got on with it. But as others have mentioned, it's tense and tiring driving at prolonged high speed as you have to look so far ahead and anticipate trucks and slower cars overtaking each other. We managed about 15 mins of intense high speed driving and we settled back to around 100mph cruise. It was knackering.... I've done 140 in the 370Z with the roof and the windows down, and that just got on with it in fairness to it. I might see what it will do roof up one day I reckon.
dcb said:
Brit passengers tend to think the Germans drive as badly as the Brits.
They don't. Unlimited roads means almost all Germans concentrate
on their driving.
They really don't, not sure where abouts in Germany are you but I'm in Frankfurt and they are just as thick as sThey don't. Unlimited roads means almost all Germans concentrate
on their driving.
t in the main. Including the speeders. You can read my impressions on the driving conditions over here in the German sub-section. One thing they tend to do more here is lane discipline.
I covered a few hundred miles on the Autobahn last summer driving back to Calais from Innsbruck. I found that most people cruise at 90-100 on the derestricted sections and trying to sustain anything more than that is difficult due to traffic levels - I had to be heavy on the brakes on one occasion.
I was in my old M135i and while I had every intention of getting to the 155mph limiter, I wimped out at around 130mph as the car felt very floaty at that point and didn't inspire confidence at all. I would love to go back in my XJR to see how something bigger and geared up for high-speed cruising fares at those sorts of speeds.
I was in my old M135i and while I had every intention of getting to the 155mph limiter, I wimped out at around 130mph as the car felt very floaty at that point and didn't inspire confidence at all. I would love to go back in my XJR to see how something bigger and geared up for high-speed cruising fares at those sorts of speeds.
supacool1 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I took the Cerbera to 160 once, and that felt like it wanted to take off at that speed! Exciting for sure, but I'm not sure if I'd want to go much quicker than that in it though as you say. The engine gets properly noisy at high speed in the Cerb too.
I've done 140 in the 370Z with the roof and the windows down, and that just got on with it in fairness to it. I might see what it will do roof up one day I reckon.
Funny you should say that...I just came back from an Euro Tour where I used a (Fairlady) 350Z coupe. When driving through Germany I only dared to push the Zed up to a gps verified 140mph for a stretch. As you said with the 370Z, it just got on with it. But as others have mentioned, it's tense and tiring driving at prolonged high speed as you have to look so far ahead and anticipate trucks and slower cars overtaking each other. We managed about 15 mins of intense high speed driving and we settled back to around 100mph cruise. It was knackering.... I've done 140 in the 370Z with the roof and the windows down, and that just got on with it in fairness to it. I might see what it will do roof up one day I reckon.
Alias218 said:
I had my 350Z up to an indicated 152mph on the digi speedo on the way back through Germany, and it was absolutely fine with it. I had a crate of Bitburger in the passenger footwell and it was barely clinking.
That sounds very dangerous. If you have the beers on the passenger seat you can reach them without having to take your eyes of the road. crofty1984 said:
stef1808 said:
Comfortable cruising I would say is about 100mph. Otherwise as fast as the car and conditions can go of course
100-120mph for me (E39 BMW 330). I did push to 140 briefly, but you knew you were doing it.The last time I was on an autobahn I was riding a Honda VFR1200 (170bhp sport tourer) with a mate on his fireblade.
We mainly kept cruising speeds to around 120 mph with blasts up to 170ish (we had luggage).
On the bikes travelling at very high speeds means many many fuel stops, and it’s tiring looking that far ahead all the time.
On one trip I had to brake extremely hard from 150mph to 70 to avoid hitting a dark green mk3 fiesta that had moved unexpectedly into the outside lane on a mostly empty road.
I managed to match their speed about 6’ from their bumper having pretty much accepted that this was probably it.
On another trip one of the lads met us in southern Germany, he’d ridden the 600 miles from zebrugge in one hit on a ZZR 1400. He’d been doing 150+ most of the way across Germany. By the time he got to us he had eyes like saucers, could barely speak and had to hold his pint with both hands.
We mainly kept cruising speeds to around 120 mph with blasts up to 170ish (we had luggage).
On the bikes travelling at very high speeds means many many fuel stops, and it’s tiring looking that far ahead all the time.
On one trip I had to brake extremely hard from 150mph to 70 to avoid hitting a dark green mk3 fiesta that had moved unexpectedly into the outside lane on a mostly empty road.
I managed to match their speed about 6’ from their bumper having pretty much accepted that this was probably it.
On another trip one of the lads met us in southern Germany, he’d ridden the 600 miles from zebrugge in one hit on a ZZR 1400. He’d been doing 150+ most of the way across Germany. By the time he got to us he had eyes like saucers, could barely speak and had to hold his pint with both hands.
Back in the mid Noughties myself and a few others used to travel to Trier to watch the WRC, we'd then do a bit of touring & a lap of the 'Ring. I took my very slightly modded 'classic' Impreza. Naturally I wanted to see what it could do on the AB; I ran it to an indicated 155mph which in truth would have probably have been @140.
It was a joy travelling at a reasonable speed with few concerns. On one occasion I was merrily driving along at about 100mph when a Polo slowly eased past; I looked across to see a 30-something Woman at the wheel with a couple of young kids in the back. In y mind she was doing the school run!
It was a joy travelling at a reasonable speed with few concerns. On one occasion I was merrily driving along at about 100mph when a Polo slowly eased past; I looked across to see a 30-something Woman at the wheel with a couple of young kids in the back. In y mind she was doing the school run!
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