RE: Electrogenic takes DMC-12 back to the future
Discussion
Turbobanana said:
For those commenting on the lacklustre PRV V6, it's worth remembering that Ford's similarly-sized Cologne V6 of the time was only pushing 128bhp in carb form, and as little as 90bhp in US-spec (which was probably a large target market for DeLorean).
The PRV went on to be developed for racing applications, peaking at 850bhp in highly developed form, and powering the WM P88 prototype to the all-time speed record on the original, un-chicaned Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans in 1988. The engine eventually blew up, due to sacrifices made to cooling air intakes to the benefit of aerodynamics, but the point was made and the bar was left at 405kph (251mph) as the highest speed recorded during the race. It went even faster than that, on the new A26 motorway in the stretch from Saint-Quentin to Laon, François Migault reaching 416 km/h (258 mph) but hampered by poor fuel quality.
All of which is great, but I agree that a DeLorean is probably the best car ever to be considered for an EV conversion.
In the DeLorean it only needed to hit 88 mph anyway... The PRV went on to be developed for racing applications, peaking at 850bhp in highly developed form, and powering the WM P88 prototype to the all-time speed record on the original, un-chicaned Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans in 1988. The engine eventually blew up, due to sacrifices made to cooling air intakes to the benefit of aerodynamics, but the point was made and the bar was left at 405kph (251mph) as the highest speed recorded during the race. It went even faster than that, on the new A26 motorway in the stretch from Saint-Quentin to Laon, François Migault reaching 416 km/h (258 mph) but hampered by poor fuel quality.
All of which is great, but I agree that a DeLorean is probably the best car ever to be considered for an EV conversion.
sideways man said:
If there is ONE classic that suits an electric conversion, it’s this.
I would agree. My brother had a DeLorean for a while and the engine was terrible. The car is iconic because of its looks and back to the future. Beyond that it's not a particularly good car. An electric drive train would suit it well.
O/T but there's a US based YouTuber who has a (I think) very good channel where he does the usual thing of buying interesting cars and repairing them, Legit Street Cars. What I like about Alex is he actually sees all the projects through and has a mix of cars he buys to fix and move on and also ones he buys to keep.
He bought a Delorean a while ago as it was one of his dream cars and he's very sympathetically gone about getting it up and running again. He's kept it very original, engine and all and I thought some of the quirks he's come across whilst fixing the car were fascinating.
You can find the full playlist here if anyone wants to see the inner workings of a Delorean, but it does show how bodged a lot of things were on it mechanically.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCPhBTbpYs4IyNo...
He bought a Delorean a while ago as it was one of his dream cars and he's very sympathetically gone about getting it up and running again. He's kept it very original, engine and all and I thought some of the quirks he's come across whilst fixing the car were fascinating.
You can find the full playlist here if anyone wants to see the inner workings of a Delorean, but it does show how bodged a lot of things were on it mechanically.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCPhBTbpYs4IyNo...
C5_Steve said:
In this instance, I very much suspect it's because the kit is supplied to different companies in different locations and therefore the price will vary. They do a very small amount of installs themselves.
Electrogenic lists the price of the Mini conversion on their website as it's a self-install kit (£16k).
Professionally installed on a mini probally best part of 20k then? The DeLorean will be alot more I expect and a Testarossa with all the labour hrs involved would be eyewatering if your daft enough to do it.Electrogenic lists the price of the Mini conversion on their website as it's a self-install kit (£16k).
polaris26 said:
after seeing the criminal testarossa conversion, this one makes sense.
Nobody wanted a used Testarossa, now because an owner wants to make it driveable a few people get vexed. If people felt so preciously they should have bought one and kept it in pristine original condition. We’ve been swopping engines in cars for as long as I can recall, this motive power just happens to be electric.The idea of an EV Delorean is excellent albeit I expect it cost well north of £50k for the conversion alone.
Nomme de Plum said:
Nobody wanted a used Testarossa, now because an owner wants to make it driveable a few people get vexed. If people felt so preciously they should have bought one and kept it in pristine original condition. We’ve been swopping engines in cars for as long as I can recall, this motive power just happens to be electric.
The idea of an EV Delorean is excellent albeit I expect it cost well north of £50k for the conversion alone.
yes, so many Testarossa engine swaps....do you actually think before you type such utter tripe? EV drivetrains are boring, and if you cannot see the point of why, the 'failings' make them special...The idea of an EV Delorean is excellent albeit I expect it cost well north of £50k for the conversion alone.
Nomme de Plum said:
polaris26 said:
after seeing the criminal testarossa conversion, this one makes sense.
Nobody wanted a used Testarossa, now because an owner wants to make it driveable a few people get vexed. If people felt so preciously they should have bought one and kept it in pristine original condition. We’ve been swopping engines in cars for as long as I can recall, this motive power just happens to be electric.The idea of an EV Delorean is excellent albeit I expect it cost well north of £50k for the conversion alone.
A friend has probably the best dmc12 in Northern Ireland.
He was able to replace all the faded plastics with NOS about 10years ago but it was a case of finding bumpers, switch panels, light lenses and parts that had been nicked or bought cheap when the factory closed, stored in boxes in attics and garages all over Belfast.
That stock seems to have dried up now, I'd imagine most cars getting this treatment will need similar parts to freshen them, where exactly will you get this for your now £80k+ car?
He was able to replace all the faded plastics with NOS about 10years ago but it was a case of finding bumpers, switch panels, light lenses and parts that had been nicked or bought cheap when the factory closed, stored in boxes in attics and garages all over Belfast.
That stock seems to have dried up now, I'd imagine most cars getting this treatment will need similar parts to freshen them, where exactly will you get this for your now £80k+ car?
Decky_Q said:
A friend has probably the best dmc12 in Northern Ireland.
He was able to replace all the faded plastics with NOS about 10years ago but it was a case of finding bumpers, switch panels, light lenses and parts that had been nicked or bought cheap when the factory closed, stored in boxes in attics and garages all over Belfast.
That stock seems to have dried up now, I'd imagine most cars getting this treatment will need similar parts to freshen them, where exactly will you get this for your now £80k+ car?
There seems to be quite a few companies making and supplying a lot of parts for these still, especially in the US.He was able to replace all the faded plastics with NOS about 10years ago but it was a case of finding bumpers, switch panels, light lenses and parts that had been nicked or bought cheap when the factory closed, stored in boxes in attics and garages all over Belfast.
That stock seems to have dried up now, I'd imagine most cars getting this treatment will need similar parts to freshen them, where exactly will you get this for your now £80k+ car?
Seems like a sensible candidate for conversion given the lacklustre performance of the OE setup even when new, let alone by today's standards.
But between the cost of buying a good example and getting this conversion done, you must surely be in the region of £100k. Not sure I'd want to spend £100k on a Delorean when you could buy a very nice 911 or similar for that money.
But between the cost of buying a good example and getting this conversion done, you must surely be in the region of £100k. Not sure I'd want to spend £100k on a Delorean when you could buy a very nice 911 or similar for that money.
Firebobby said:
So approx 210bhp and 220ft/lbs and it's good for a sub 5 sec 0-60 dash! I somehow doubt that very much..
Seems reasonably plausible, given the low down torque. A contemporary Esprit Turbo was in the same ballpark. I imagine the DMC is a bit heavier, but has no turbo lag.C5_Steve said:
Decky_Q said:
A friend has probably the best dmc12 in Northern Ireland.
He was able to replace all the faded plastics with NOS about 10years ago but it was a case of finding bumpers, switch panels, light lenses and parts that had been nicked or bought cheap when the factory closed, stored in boxes in attics and garages all over Belfast.
That stock seems to have dried up now, I'd imagine most cars getting this treatment will need similar parts to freshen them, where exactly will you get this for your now £80k+ car?
There seems to be quite a few companies making and supplying a lot of parts for these still, especially in the US.He was able to replace all the faded plastics with NOS about 10years ago but it was a case of finding bumpers, switch panels, light lenses and parts that had been nicked or bought cheap when the factory closed, stored in boxes in attics and garages all over Belfast.
That stock seems to have dried up now, I'd imagine most cars getting this treatment will need similar parts to freshen them, where exactly will you get this for your now £80k+ car?
https://store.delorean.com/parts.html
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