RE: 2025 BMW M5 prototype (G90) | PH Review
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Nimerino said:
£110 000+ and 2.5 tonnes, yet they still refuse to press new rear doors so the wheel arch doesn’t abruptly cut off at the front like on a £110 Halfords special. Looked stupid on the M3, looks equally stupid here.
hadn't noticed until you pointed it out, now I can't unsee it. Really doesn't look right at all.I used to moan(almost every day) about the weight of my old E92 M3 at 1650kg, but that thing is a slim Jim now in comparison to modern cars for sure. The E39 M5 was "only" around 1800kg IIRC too.
At least these modern hybrid or fully electric cars give me something to grumble about though, and I love to grumble to be fair.
At least these modern hybrid or fully electric cars give me something to grumble about though, and I love to grumble to be fair.
d!cerb4.5lee said:
I used to moan(almost every day) about the weight of my old E92 M3 at 1650kg, but that thing is a slim Jim now in comparison to modern cars for sure. The E39 M5 was "only" around 1800kg IIRC too.
At least these modern hybrid or fully electric cars give me something to grumble about though, and I love to grumble to be fair.
You and me both - I remember mentioning the E92 M3 wasn't far off the weight of my old E34 M5 at the time it was released, positively Anorexic compared to this M5. 285 front tyres to try and combat the sheer girth of the thing, not going to offer a massive amount in terms of feel or 'communication' through the steering wheel then - huge outright grip and then just understeer. Also laughable that it's actually slower than the outgoing M5 until speeds become illegal (on UK roads), goes to show even the geniuses at BMW M can't fight the laws of physics. Wasn't 2.5 tonnes about what the original Audi Q7 weighed?!At least these modern hybrid or fully electric cars give me something to grumble about though, and I love to grumble to be fair.
vincenz said:
Clivey said:
Have you read the article?
I have dude, it’s progress, whether we like it or not ??When more resources are required for a thing that once needed less, and when that thing being a car struggles to overcome physics in the way it once did (and then subjectively also does that whilst moving the aesthetic game backwards), that ain't progress.
Legislation and the green agenda have pushed hard to rid us of fossil fuel public transport and replace with electricity. With that has come, stupendous stats, amazing in absolute straight line, chronic when weight is considered. Accepting emissions have to be gotten rid of, when millions of 3 tonne passenger cars are darting to 30mph in 1.3 seconds, I really don't see that as progress in any way at all. that's THREE tonnes of resource/material.
Anyway, BMW's design language continues to disappoint... a smidge better but it's not classy is it, like the brand once was....not progress.
Times change, it's allowed to not like aspects of whats put in front of us and marketed as the better thing than what went before.... you don't have to "get with it"
The era of super saloon 2.5t cars being superbike motorcycle quick is here
Those stats for an unmapped car is incredible. Commute to work on electric and have supercar performance on the weekend
My own 1000+ cc super naked motorbike would only just edge that off the mark and would lose out on near 20mph top speed
Those stats for an unmapped car is incredible. Commute to work on electric and have supercar performance on the weekend
My own 1000+ cc super naked motorbike would only just edge that off the mark and would lose out on near 20mph top speed
My neighbour has a new 5 series in EV form. Once you are close by, it feels very tall, and enormous. Almost like a 3 volume SUV with a boot designed to fool you. Also, the design language gives the impression that it's made of Chinesium, or the sort-of plastic used for the cheapest appliances.
Some here will say that BMW numbers speak for their success. Fair enough.
As a serial BMW buyer, the last 5 years have been quite disappointing. They don't sell a single car I like.
Some here will say that BMW numbers speak for their success. Fair enough.
As a serial BMW buyer, the last 5 years have been quite disappointing. They don't sell a single car I like.
oldaudi said:
https://youtu.be/LioNP7EQB0g?si=DIpILs3nckRAp39M
BMW M you tube channel released this last night. No idea why an old bloke is taking selfies sat in the car.
Seems to be the target group...BMW M you tube channel released this last night. No idea why an old bloke is taking selfies sat in the car.
How times have changed
This is in the seriously undesirable category for me …challenging looks , slower than the old car and weighs more than a large SUV … if you really want a hybrid or full electric super saloon the RS e-tron GT is the one looks wise even if it’s almost the same weight as the BMW. All of these cars are just way too heavy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9NyvdX81vA
First shot is the piano black plastic on the grill - already has swirls. On what planet is putting that on the front of a car a good idea. Imagine that after a year.
First shot is the piano black plastic on the grill - already has swirls. On what planet is putting that on the front of a car a good idea. Imagine that after a year.
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