RE: MG Cyberster goes on sale priced from £55k
Discussion
cerb4.5lee said:
Scott-R said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Up until I started buying reasonably quick cars, I could always feel the difference in weight when you were 4 up. I remember my old E61 520d feeling as gutless as hell when it was fully loaded with us and stuff for example.
I once had 4 adults in my old M2 Comp and when going for a quick exit off a roundabout I remember being quietly disappointed at how much I could feel the performance had been dented. Atleast I can’t fit 4 people or anything bigger than a sandwich in my current A110 I suppose Although yesterday I was behind a slow moving car just as I got into a national speed limit area(just me and my 8 year old in the car), so I stamped on the throttle in the M4 and it just rocketed past the car in front, and it felt ace to me. I love the DCT for that, and now I have new MPS4S on the rears they will handle full throttle really well too.
The M4 is a funny car at times though, because yesterday doing that overtake it felt really rapid, whereas sometimes I stick my foot right down and I feel like it could do with a bit more shove though, it is all a bit odd really. However I have felt similar to that with a lot of other performance cars I've had over the years though to be fair.
Honeywell said:
This is about as much fun as peace talks over Gaza.
It's a car. It will appeal to a few people for a few good reasons and not to others. Nobody is wrong or right.
I don't want an EV but I don't want to pay 62% income tax either. I already have an MX5. The Cyberster could replace it as my two seat convertible AND solve my 62% income tax problem at the same time. I appreciate that is not everyone's situation but it is mine.
I'll take a test drive when they are available.
This is much to sensible and well thought out a post for a PistonHeads EV thread! It's a car. It will appeal to a few people for a few good reasons and not to others. Nobody is wrong or right.
I don't want an EV but I don't want to pay 62% income tax either. I already have an MX5. The Cyberster could replace it as my two seat convertible AND solve my 62% income tax problem at the same time. I appreciate that is not everyone's situation but it is mine.
I'll take a test drive when they are available.
I agree with you.
otolith said:
Pro Bono said:
8Speed said:
I'll never buy a Chinese car.
But I bet you've got a Chinese made phone, so what's the difference?Their interiors were/are diabolical for me, however that certainly doesn't stop me buying or really liking them overall for sure though. Plus you also have to remember that some folk are also willing to pay £60k for a brand new GRY too, and the less said about the interior in that the better I reckon for sure.
I feel quite conflicted by this. In many ways I'm probably the target market. I've owned SLK's since they were first released, and I've been really happy with them, particularly the 350's, one of which I still own. As I've no doubt people will be eager to point out, the SLK isn't an out and out sports car in the same way that a Boxster is, but they're nevertheless very enjoyable to drive, and certainly quick enough for what I want.
So the fact that this is a heavy car isn't a major problem, as I rarely drive so quickly that I'm really going to notice the effect of the weight. The performance figures look very similar to my SLK, so that's good.
I like its looks, though those stupid tail lights are a mistake, and I'm not over keen on the wheel design. The doors are a big negative for me though, as they just shout "Look at me", and I'd be embarrassed every time I used them in a public place.
I also don't like the size of the car. As the SLK / SLC has been discontinued I've been in a real dilemma as to my next car, and I looked at the SL, but although it's a great car in many respects it just felt too big and barge-like, and this seems to be around the same size.
And my final concern would be financial. I've been shocked to see the massive drop in second hand values of EV's recently, and I can see something like this depreciating like a stone. I've always bought for cash in the past, but I'd be very reluctant to do so for one of these. Maybe leasing would be viable if MG effectively subsidise the lease cost - it'll be interesting to see what sort of lease figures they come up with. I also understand that EV's are really expensive to insure because of the crazy cost of battery damage.
So quite a dilemma. But I'll definitely be booking a test drive.
So the fact that this is a heavy car isn't a major problem, as I rarely drive so quickly that I'm really going to notice the effect of the weight. The performance figures look very similar to my SLK, so that's good.
I like its looks, though those stupid tail lights are a mistake, and I'm not over keen on the wheel design. The doors are a big negative for me though, as they just shout "Look at me", and I'd be embarrassed every time I used them in a public place.
I also don't like the size of the car. As the SLK / SLC has been discontinued I've been in a real dilemma as to my next car, and I looked at the SL, but although it's a great car in many respects it just felt too big and barge-like, and this seems to be around the same size.
And my final concern would be financial. I've been shocked to see the massive drop in second hand values of EV's recently, and I can see something like this depreciating like a stone. I've always bought for cash in the past, but I'd be very reluctant to do so for one of these. Maybe leasing would be viable if MG effectively subsidise the lease cost - it'll be interesting to see what sort of lease figures they come up with. I also understand that EV's are really expensive to insure because of the crazy cost of battery damage.
So quite a dilemma. But I'll definitely be booking a test drive.
I've seen a few different figures but 1900 - 2000kg seems to be about it. Despite that Evos initial impressions seem pretty positive on the handling front - see https://www.evo.co.uk/mg/cyberster. They only gave it 3 and a half stars but the editorial sounded more positive than that.
Pro Bono said:
8Speed said:
I'll never buy a Chinese car.
But I bet you've got a Chinese made phone, so what's the difference?Hmm I wonder what could be the difference between a 200 quid phone (let's assume it's made in China even though it isn't) and a 55,000 quid car?
Chinese state owned MG can go fk itself. I wouldn't drive one if you paid me to.
(ps Samsung hasn't manufactured in China since 2019 so that cliche falls flat on it's face before it even gets to the first hurdle)
Edited by pheonix478 on Monday 29th April 04:04
otolith said:
I think buying one and removing the battery altogether would get you close.
No there's a thought - removable batteries! You take out 3 or 400kg of batteries when you're just on your daily commute or a weekend blat, and then just pop them back in (with a big mate to help you, obviously) when you need to go on a long trip. Or perhaps have the Long-range battery pack on a trailer! ThirstyMoose said:
1935kg apparently.
Think I’d rather it were 1435kg with less range and more agility.
Save yourself about 25 grand and buy a Mazda MX5. Think I’d rather it were 1435kg with less range and more agility.
The whole point of a roadster is for the aural pleasure, agility and wind in your hair. You don't need 500 BHP in a roadster especially on our clogged roads.
The only people who will
The Caterham Project V concept car looked great 250 ish BHP and 1200KG kerb weight and that is a 2+2. Why cannot someone do something similar?
CanAm said:
No there's a thought - removable batteries! You take out 3 or 400kg of batteries when you're just on your daily commute or a weekend blat, and then just pop them back in (with a big mate to help you, obviously) when you need to go on a long trip. Or perhaps have the Long-range battery pack on a trailer!
That's actually a genius idea, apart from the manual removal bit with a mate BricktopST205 said:
Save yourself about 25 grand and buy a Mazda MX5.
The whole point of a roadster is for the aural pleasure, agility and wind in your hair. You don't need 500 BHP in a roadster especially on our clogged roads.
The only people who willbuy rent these will be the company car tax people.
The Caterham Project V concept car looked great 250 ish BHP and 1200KG kerb weight and that is a 2+2. Why cannot someone do something similar?
The Project V is designed around low volume construction methods and materials, as well as a fairly spartan interior for the price point.The whole point of a roadster is for the aural pleasure, agility and wind in your hair. You don't need 500 BHP in a roadster especially on our clogged roads.
The only people who will
The Caterham Project V concept car looked great 250 ish BHP and 1200KG kerb weight and that is a 2+2. Why cannot someone do something similar?
If the car is designed to attract a substantial market share, then the construction materials, finishes and equipment levels (and resulting kerb mass) of the car need to be more mainstream.
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