Garage wrecked my Range Rover engine… please help

[Jakg]

BricktopST205 said:

We can all speculate but judging from the OP she took it to her "local" garage to check it who turned her away as they were not specialised enough to deal with it. That is alarm bells straight away as where has she been having it serviced previously?

I bought a spares-or-repairs BMW with a gearbox fault, suspected electrical. The seller called several local garages but none were keen to even look at the car, and the specialist was fully booked.

I could well *imagine* my local fast-fit style garage might be hesitant to do a large engine rebuild on a newer car that they've not done before - it's very likely they'd be uncompetitive against a specialist, and "simpler" service/repairs they do more often would probably be much more profitable because the work could be done quicker against book time.

[Hereward]

GT9 said:

Hereward said:

GT9 said:

Cold said:

Well, first they would have to actually fit a turbocharger, then I suppose they could change the oil seal - but some might suggest it might be prudent to check it before fitting.

Otherwise, yes, like you say clockwork.

Not actually sure, are you due a parrot?

The engine has a supercharger, not a turbocharger, so one could argue the parrot should be awarded elsewhere.

For real.
Maybe read the whole thread, of course I know it has a supercharger, I said so earlier in the thread.
The turbocharger comment was satire which I thought would be obvious to anyone, except maybe the OP.
Apparently not.

Ahhhhh, parrot for me, then. Top satire.

Not reading the whole thread and noting who said what.

[moffspeed]

Megaflow said:

You read threads like this and realise why car manuals used to tell you how to maintain the car, and now it tells you not to drink the contents of the battery…

Yes, but even then the manuals didn’t cover all eventualities, remember this story ?


Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City bought a new Winnebago motor home. While driving it home on the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 and went into the back to make coffee.
"Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the owner's manual that he couldn't actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new motor home," and the company rewrote the manual "in case there were any other complete morons buying their recreational vehicles."


Incidentally any potential here for a crate (Chevy) LS engine swap. Cheaper & immeasurably more reliable ??

ETA - sadly just read that Snopes debunked the Winnie story as “fake noos”.

Edited by moffspeed on Saturday 29th June 08:52

[GT9]

Hereward said:

Ahhhhh, parrot for me, then. Top satire.

Not reading the whole thread and noting who said what.

[biggbn]

moffspeed said:

Megaflow said:

You read threads like this and realise why car manuals used to tell you how to maintain the car, and now it tells you not to drink the contents of the battery…

Yes, but even then the manuals didn’t cover all eventualities, remember this story ?


Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City bought a new Winnebago motor home. While driving it home on the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 and went into the back to make coffee.
"Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the owner's manual that he couldn't actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new motor home," and the company rewrote the manual "in case there were any other complete morons buying their recreational vehicles."


Incidentally any potential here for a crate (Chevy) LS engine swap. Cheaper & immeasurably more reliable ??

Always thought Grazinski was an urban legend?

[FMOB]

BricktopST205 said:

Flumpo said:

It wasn’t the law in 2019 as I can’t get life insurance and it wasn’t an issue for nationwide and I made it very clear as I failed their life insurance criteria - as I told them I would before hand!

Edit - bit confusing, you may be talking about house insurance. I suspect there are a lot of people breaking that law if it is one.

I wasn't talking about life insurance being mandatory but is more like a warranty for your car but for your body instead! However I think pretty much all mortgage providers will not give you a mortgage without having house insurance. Maybe it isn't law but it definitely a requirement to get a mortgage.

It is Buildings Insurance they required you to have.

[andy43]

biggbn said:

moffspeed said:

Megaflow said:

You read threads like this and realise why car manuals used to tell you how to maintain the car, and now it tells you not to drink the contents of the battery…

Yes, but even then the manuals didn’t cover all eventualities, remember this story ?


Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City bought a new Winnebago motor home. While driving it home on the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 and went into the back to make coffee.
"Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the owner's manual that he couldn't actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new motor home," and the company rewrote the manual "in case there were any other complete morons buying their recreational vehicles."


Incidentally any potential here for a crate (Chevy) LS engine swap. Cheaper & immeasurably more reliable ??

Always thought Grazinski was an urban legend?

No, just American.

[Flumpo]

FMOB said:

BricktopST205 said:

Flumpo said:

It wasn’t the law in 2019 as I can’t get life insurance and it wasn’t an issue for nationwide and I made it very clear as I failed their life insurance criteria - as I told them I would before hand!

Edit - bit confusing, you may be talking about house insurance. I suspect there are a lot of people breaking that law if it is one.

I wasn't talking about life insurance being mandatory but is more like a warranty for your car but for your body instead! However I think pretty much all mortgage providers will not give you a mortgage without having house insurance. Maybe it isn't law but it definitely a requirement to get a mortgage.

It is Buildings Insurance they required you to have.

But as per the original post that’s been snipped out, the police are not going to arrest you if NatWest tell them you haven’t got building insurance?

Edited by Flumpo on Saturday 29th June 09:37

[biggbn]

andy43 said:

biggbn said:

moffspeed said:

Megaflow said:

You read threads like this and realise why car manuals used to tell you how to maintain the car, and now it tells you not to drink the contents of the battery…

Yes, but even then the manuals didn’t cover all eventualities, remember this story ?


Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City bought a new Winnebago motor home. While driving it home on the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 and went into the back to make coffee.
"Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the owner's manual that he couldn't actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new motor home," and the company rewrote the manual "in case there were any other complete morons buying their recreational vehicles."


Incidentally any potential here for a crate (Chevy) LS engine swap. Cheaper & immeasurably more reliable ??

Always thought Grazinski was an urban legend?

No, just American.

an American urban myth created to encourage people to participate in the sue culture over there I think...

[BertBert]

Who's this Sue Culture gal?

[Wheel Turned Out]

BertBert said:

Who's this Sue Culture gal?

Pretty sure she's a warden in Wandsworth.

[biggbn]

BertBert said:

Who's this Sue Culture gal?

Smiley Culture's little sis....

[Megaflow]

moffspeed said:

Megaflow said:

You read threads like this and realise why car manuals used to tell you how to maintain the car, and now it tells you not to drink the contents of the battery…

Yes, but even then the manuals didn’t cover all eventualities, remember this story ?


Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City bought a new Winnebago motor home. While driving it home on the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 and went into the back to make coffee.
"Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the owner's manual that he couldn't actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new motor home," and the company rewrote the manual "in case there were any other complete morons buying their recreational vehicles."


Incidentally any potential here for a crate (Chevy) LS engine swap. Cheaper & immeasurably more reliable ??

ETA - sadly just read that Snopes debunked the Winnie story as “fake noos”.

Edited by moffspeed on Saturday 29th June 08:52

Yep. The first time I heard it was on a health and safety course and I was like WTAF. It amazes me that people like that can have an obviously well paid job to avoid such a vehicle, and yet are so devastatingly stupid at the same time!

ETA: Apparently it is a myth.

Edited by Megaflow on Saturday 29th June 18:19

[Acuity30]

Wheel Turned Out said:

Pretty sure she's a warden in Wandsworth.

Lucky husband, I wonder if he could taste the inmate

[DonkeyApple]

biggbn said:

andy43 said:

biggbn said:

moffspeed said:

Megaflow said:

You read threads like this and realise why car manuals used to tell you how to maintain the car, and now it tells you not to drink the contents of the battery…

Yes, but even then the manuals didn’t cover all eventualities, remember this story ?


Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City bought a new Winnebago motor home. While driving it home on the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 and went into the back to make coffee.
"Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the owner's manual that he couldn't actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new motor home," and the company rewrote the manual "in case there were any other complete morons buying their recreational vehicles."


Incidentally any potential here for a crate (Chevy) LS engine swap. Cheaper & immeasurably more reliable ??

Always thought Grazinski was an urban legend?

No, just American.

an American urban myth created to encourage people to participate in the sue culture over there I think...

I always assumed it was the same as the Mr Gorsky story. Just tales from an era when Americans were mocking Pollocks like the British were mocking the Irish.

[NRG1976]

biggbn said:

BertBert said:

Who's this Sue Culture gal?

Smiley Culture's little sis....

Ah, saw her driving a Lancia

[clive_candy]

DonkeyApple said:

biggbn said:

andy43 said:

biggbn said:

moffspeed said:

Megaflow said:

You read threads like this and realise why car manuals used to tell you how to maintain the car, and now it tells you not to drink the contents of the battery…

Yes, but even then the manuals didn’t cover all eventualities, remember this story ?


Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City bought a new Winnebago motor home. While driving it home on the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 and went into the back to make coffee.
"Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the owner's manual that he couldn't actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new motor home," and the company rewrote the manual "in case there were any other complete morons buying their recreational vehicles."


Incidentally any potential here for a crate (Chevy) LS engine swap. Cheaper & immeasurably more reliable ??

Always thought Grazinski was an urban legend?

No, just American.

an American urban myth created to encourage people to participate in the sue culture over there I think...

I always assumed it was the same as the Mr Gorsky story. Just tales from an era when Americans were mocking Pollocks like the British were mocking the Irish.

Pollachius virens?

[georgeyboy12345]

BertBert said:

Who's this Sue Culture gal?

Not many girls named Sue anymore, they are usually all over 60.

[DonkeyApple]

clive_candy said:

DonkeyApple said:

biggbn said:

andy43 said:

biggbn said:

moffspeed said:

Megaflow said:

You read threads like this and realise why car manuals used to tell you how to maintain the car, and now it tells you not to drink the contents of the battery…

Yes, but even then the manuals didn’t cover all eventualities, remember this story ?


Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City bought a new Winnebago motor home. While driving it home on the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 and went into the back to make coffee.
"Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the owner's manual that he couldn't actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new motor home," and the company rewrote the manual "in case there were any other complete morons buying their recreational vehicles."


Incidentally any potential here for a crate (Chevy) LS engine swap. Cheaper & immeasurably more reliable ??

Always thought Grazinski was an urban legend?

No, just American.

an American urban myth created to encourage people to participate in the sue culture over there I think...

I always assumed it was the same as the Mr Gorsky story. Just tales from an era when Americans were mocking Pollocks like the British were mocking the Irish.

Pollachius virens?

According to Apple. I always thought American's were mocking Polish immigrants but Apple seem adamant it was a fish!!

[The Wookie]

nosha123 said:

The private engineer did then say verbally to me when I went to see the car at his garage, that the level of damage of the broken pistons or valves (Ic ant recall which and am not a tech person Sorry!), were smashed and that Garage 2 must have revved the engine significantly to break them and cause such damage to the cylinder head.

Sorry but the guy isn’t giving you correct info, this happened to my old man a split second after starting his 2014 RR 5.0 SC, absolutely destroyed the engine, seized solid and it wasn’t even idling.

Unfortunately it’s just bad timing (no pun intended) with a known fault on these engines. It could have gone at any moment and arguably bad luck on the second garage’s part frankly that it happened in their custodianship.

Frankly I’m surprised it was running badly before it went, Dad’s one was on similar mileage and was running perfectly right up until it turned itself inside out.

You could argue that it was unwise to run it given garage 1’s report (assuming they knew), but if you drove it there I can understand why they might think it warranted further investigation before they billed you for work that didn’t need doing and didn’t fix the fault.

Edited by The Wookie on Saturday 29th June 21:58