Bahnstorming Speeds
Discussion
Saw an indicated 176mph in my Giulia QF late one night near Cologne and it was happily still accelerating, however traffic on the horizon showed it was time to back off.
In similar circumstances I saw an indicated 164mph in my previous Golf R and it felt like it had more. I doubt that number though.
The thing about the autobahn is there’s always a faster car (with the possible exception of the Porsche previously posted).
In similar circumstances I saw an indicated 164mph in my previous Golf R and it felt like it had more. I doubt that number though.
The thing about the autobahn is there’s always a faster car (with the possible exception of the Porsche previously posted).
cerb4.5lee said:
J4CKO said:
cerb4.5lee said:
mozza42 said:
Two weeks ago on the way to Stuttgart. Really easy to cook the brakes when someone pulls out in front...!
If you're wondering about the MPG, I was lifting off from 255kph as something had pulled out!
I think unless you are used to driving at high speed yourself, you don't always appreciate how fast some folk like to go if the opportunity arises.
I'm always looking behind me for fast cars, and funnily enough I had a chap earlier come flying up behind me in a current M4(G82) when I was in the 370Z. It sounded pretty good as he flew past me as well I thought. I said to my eldest daughter who was with me...that there wasn't any point in trying to keep up with him in my lethargic naturally aspirated car to be fair!
Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 19th June 20:24
Or slow down a bit…
I do need to slow down a bit for sure(especially at my age). However...it isn't very easy to drive an M4 slow everywhere though!
I went to a gentle 130 in the M4 again today...and I just can't bloody help myself!
Olivergt said:
Debaser said:
grumpynuts said:
Going super fast in cooking models is always interesting as they are not engineered for max speed cruising.
I read this occasionally on PH, it definitely isn’t correct. Generally I find that most cars are fine at their top speed. The slow models tend to have lower top speeds and less braking and suspension capability to match. They used to have skinny tyres but now every car is shod in 18”+ foot wide boots.
MC Bodge said:
UK motorways do appear to have been designed for high speeds.
UK motorways have been designed for exactly 100mph, as that is the design speed. The radius of all bends are such that they should allow any vehicle capable of 100mph to negotiate them without needing to slow.cerb4.5lee said:
MattsCar said:
I can't imagine driving with my mother at 140mph.
I've been in a car with my mum driving at 140mph back in 80's in fairness! Both my dad and mum loved driving at high speed, and I guess that has rubbed off on me as well rightly or wrongly. 
t himself. (Not literally). LunarOne said:
MC Bodge said:
UK motorways do appear to have been designed for high speeds.
UK motorways have been designed for exactly 100mph, as that is the design speed. The radius of all bends are such that they should allow any vehicle capable of 100mph to negotiate them without needing to slow.I wonder, if for example, whether the M6 toll is safer than the M6 section it bypasses? Average speeds seem higher, traffic lighter, fewer locals junction hopping, people priced out etc one might guess that it is lower risk and higher speed?
LunarOne said:
First of all you have to agree on what “cooking” actually means in the automotive sense. I always understood it to mean the hot (hence cooking) version of a car - think M3 or GTI. But other people understand it as the common or garden variety of car, the 316i or the L version.
Generally I find that most cars are fine at their top speed. The slow models tend to have lower top speeds and less braking and suspension capability to match. They used to have skinny tyres but now every car is shod in 18”+ foot wide boots.
As per post #3(?) my experience differs in that cooking (which I'll take to mean those offerings between the hot and the poverty, the 2.0TSIs of this world) aren't as comfortable at a high cruise at their hot stablemate - it's depends what "fine" is taken to mean.Generally I find that most cars are fine at their top speed. The slow models tend to have lower top speeds and less braking and suspension capability to match. They used to have skinny tyres but now every car is shod in 18”+ foot wide boots.
The 330dSE used in my original example can indeed get to its 250kmp limit and sit there without much drama; truck wash and expansion gaps are a bit of an eye-opener, but you work through it, possibly with sweaty palms. And I wouldn't like to knock off the top 80mph in a rush, the stock discs aren't all that.
"Fine" at those speeds has a very different definition when we're talking M/AMG barges and super GTs. These cars are genuinely confidence inspiring up to those speeds where we're getting a bit itchy about the rate of the scenery change.
Baldchap said:
119 said:
With any luck you’ll get caught and banned soon.
Speed is not a causal factor in 97% of accidents. Tell us all about the training you've had post L test.
Pit Pony said:
cerb4.5lee said:
MattsCar said:
I can't imagine driving with my mother at 140mph.
I've been in a car with my mum driving at 140mph back in 80's in fairness! Both my dad and mum loved driving at high speed, and I guess that has rubbed off on me as well rightly or wrongly. t himself. (Not literally). I'm liking this thread and the posts. I recently watched a YouTube video of someone taking an e280 cdi, same car as mine, up to 144 mph. The thing that struck me was how quickly it went past the other traffic and that if someone wasn't watching and just pulled out how catastrophic that would have been.
I suppose that if that thought enters your mind then doing that sort of speed isn't for you and should be left to more advanced and skillful drivers than myself. I suppose that in my 20's through to my 40's I could have done it and a few times went well over 100 mph with no bother but now I'm just not good enough so I stick to my limitations and plod.
Does anybody know what the fastest recorded autobahn speed is?
I suppose that if that thought enters your mind then doing that sort of speed isn't for you and should be left to more advanced and skillful drivers than myself. I suppose that in my 20's through to my 40's I could have done it and a few times went well over 100 mph with no bother but now I'm just not good enough so I stick to my limitations and plod.
Does anybody know what the fastest recorded autobahn speed is?
Mr Tidy said:
119 said:
With any luck you’ll get caught and banned soon.
With any luck you'll FRO to Mumsnet soon!
I'm an honest chap, and I understand why some folk could get upset with high speed for sure, but on the flip side, there are a lot of us car enthusiasts on here that do enjoy getting their toe down every now and again though I reckon.
First trip on the autobahn last year, from Liechtenstein to Luxembourg via Stuttgart. I’ve ridden / driven at high speeds elsewhere, but there, I found that anything over 100 mph meant that I was always slowing for something.
The car (GranCabrio) sat at 100 happily for ages and got to about 130 on a rare clear stretch. Just had to slow down too often to be bothered.
Even on the autobahn, there’s a time and place for going fast.
The car (GranCabrio) sat at 100 happily for ages and got to about 130 on a rare clear stretch. Just had to slow down too often to be bothered.
Even on the autobahn, there’s a time and place for going fast.
braddo said:
Gary C said:
Yes, a completely unbiased article isn't it...
Well, good luck finding an 'unbiased article' that says unrestricted autobahns are safer than the limited ones. 
Don't shoot the messenger. I enjoyed some autobahn last weekend, although only got to 130mph very briefly due to the masses of traffic even on a Sunday. And rain, and roadworks... To be expected in the Rhine-Ruhr region however.
Germany deaths on Autobhan in a year is 30 / 1000 km and the Uk is 25 / 1000 km
So it is worse.
cerb4.5lee said:
Mr Tidy said:
119 said:
With any luck you’ll get caught and banned soon.
With any luck you'll FRO to Mumsnet soon!I'm an honest chap, and I understand why some folk could get upset with high speed for sure, but on the flip side, there are a lot of us car enthusiasts on here that do enjoy getting their toe down every now and again though I reckon.
Gary C said:
Germany deaths on Autobhan in a year is 30 / 1000 km and the Uk is 25 / 1000 km
So it is worse.
Comparing two countries doesn't tell you much.So it is worse.
If you look at the bigger picture by looking
at more countries, Germany is about average.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn#Safety
If speed kills, then Germany would be the worst.
It isn't - many other factors contribute to the numbers,
not just one.
Gary C said:
braddo said:
Gary C said:
Yes, a completely unbiased article isn't it...
Well, good luck finding an 'unbiased article' that says unrestricted autobahns are safer than the limited ones. Don't shoot the messenger. I enjoyed some autobahn last weekend, although only got to 130mph very briefly due to the masses of traffic even on a Sunday. And rain, and roadworks... To be expected in the Rhine-Ruhr region however.
Germany deaths on Autobhan in a year is 30 / 1000 km and the Uk is 25 / 1000 km
So it is worse.
I'd love to see the data. Is it speed, regardles of weather conditions, 2 or 3 Lane autobahn, age, gender, socio-economic group, time of day.
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