Garage wrecked my Range Rover engine… please help

Garage wrecked my Range Rover engine… please help

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CrgT16

2,003 posts

111 months

This thread sounds like a troll… probably never happened.

CrgT16

2,003 posts

111 months

A 2016 RR 5.0L SVR with 90k miles will not cost £28k to buy, odd this thread… just saying

Wheel Turned Out

667 posts

41 months

Megaflow said:
You read threads like this and realise why car manuals used to tell you how to maintain the car, and now it tells you not to drink the contents of the battery…
Wait...we're NOT supposed to drink that?

Well, bcensoredocks.

B'stard Child

28,681 posts

249 months

CrgT16 said:
A 2016 RR 5.0L SVR with 90k miles will not cost £28k to buy, odd this thread… just saying
Thread OP didn't say that at all - it said they still owed £28K on finance - Just saying

ChocolateFrog

26,359 posts

176 months

CrgT16 said:
A 2016 RR 5.0L SVR with 90k miles will not cost £28k to buy, odd this thread… just saying
It's a FF Autobiography 5.0 according the OP and the figure you mention was the finance remaining not the purchase price.

CrgT16

2,003 posts

111 months

Apologies, misread as she bought it recently and was still owing all that money

Gordon Hill

1,050 posts

18 months

ChocolateFrog said:
BricktopST205 said:
Outstanding finance of 28k on a Range Rover which I guess she paid close to nothing on the deposit. Then doesn't think that on a car that would have retailed around the 80k+ mark to not get any sort of warranty on it, especially with it being a JLR product! This is madness in itself. I wonder what the service history is like if it even had any!
I feel like that could be a thread in itself.

There must be a few people on here that have ended up in similar positions where they've got significant finance on a metal brick.

What do you do?
Indeed, if you can afford to have 28 grand on finance then you should have at least a fund put away to cover you for such occasions or get a warranty, especially on that car. But no, were too busy trying to impress (not that anybody actually cares) and project a lifestyle that we can't afford.

It's all quite tragic really.

pinchmeimdreamin

10,038 posts

221 months

B'stard Child said:
CrgT16 said:
A 2016 RR 5.0L SVR with 90k miles will not cost £28k to buy, odd this thread… just saying
Thread OP didn't say that at all - it said they still owed £28K on finance - Just saying
And it’s an Autobiography not an SVR
Or as the OP put it, “they are a super car (not the SVR one which stands for SPECIAL VEHICLE)”

ChocolateFrog

26,359 posts

176 months

Gordon Hill said:
ChocolateFrog said:
BricktopST205 said:
Outstanding finance of 28k on a Range Rover which I guess she paid close to nothing on the deposit. Then doesn't think that on a car that would have retailed around the 80k+ mark to not get any sort of warranty on it, especially with it being a JLR product! This is madness in itself. I wonder what the service history is like if it even had any!
I feel like that could be a thread in itself.

There must be a few people on here that have ended up in similar positions where they've got significant finance on a metal brick.

What do you do?
Indeed, if you can afford to have 28 grand on finance then you should have at least a fund put away to cover you for such occasions or get a warranty, especially on that car. But no, were too busy trying to impress (not that anybody actually cares) and project a lifestyle that we can't afford.

It's all quite tragic really.
Big gamble. Even though I could DIY an engine change I'd still be thinking twice.

About as risky as you can get this side of a Maserati I'd suggest.

Volvo1956

464 posts

73 months

Am I so glad I choose to own an old high mileage Toyota Prius after a string of more expensive cars that does everything I need and laps up whatever length of journey I throw at it.

Never puts a foot wrong routine maintenance only and if it did suffer a major catastrophe....in the bin....and source another.

Gordon Hill

1,050 posts

18 months

Volvo1956 said:
Am I so glad I choose to own an old high mileage Toyota Prius after a string of more expensive cars that does everything I need and laps up whatever length of journey I throw at it.

Never puts a foot wrong routine maintenance only and if it did suffer a major catastrophe....in the bin....and source another.
Nothing whatsoever wrong in owning a nice car, we all love cars on here and although I run sheds (through choice) I love seeing nice cars and the enjoyment that people get from them.

That being said I do think that it's a bit silly stretching yourself to the point of bankruptcy to make the payments on a car and have f#ck all in the fridge and not being able to put it right if it sh#ts itself. But it's not my life it's theirs so crack on if that's what they want to do.

FMOB

1,188 posts

15 months

Richard-D said:
LooneyTunes said:
Heathwood said:
BricktopST205 said:
That is a silly analogy because you have the insurance to cover that eventuality.

For example you buy a house with a mortgage and you a) get insurance to cover you in these sort of things and b) get life insurance to cover you in the case of death or serious illness that renders you unable to work. It is actually why it is law to have house insurance so these things do not happen.

There is far too much ignorance in this country without consequence that these kind of people never learn from their mistakes but in this case I guess she will.

Outstanding finance of 28k on a Range Rover which I guess she paid close to nothing on the deposit. Then doesn't think that on a car that would have retailed around the 80k+ mark to not get any sort of warranty on it, especially with it being a JLR product! This is madness in itself. I wonder what the service history is like if it even had any!
Re. the bolded bit - Really? I don’t think this is the case, at least in uk.
It is usually a condition of your mortgage that you’ll have insurance.
Which is nothing like a legal requirement to have home insurance. Which absolutely doesn't exist in the UK. Interested to hear where that does exist though.
A mortgage is a loan secured on a property, the lender would be remiss in their duties not to require the asset the loan is against has a minimum building insurance so it can rebuilt if the worst happens. This would be a contractual requirement, the only insurance you are legally required to have is a minimum 3rd party cover for a vehicle.

Zj2002

183 posts

3 months

Gordon Hill said:
Volvo1956 said:
Am I so glad I choose to own an old high mileage Toyota Prius after a string of more expensive cars that does everything I need and laps up whatever length of journey I throw at it.

Never puts a foot wrong routine maintenance only and if it did suffer a major catastrophe....in the bin....and source another.
Nothing whatsoever wrong in owning a nice car, we all love cars on here and although I run sheds (through choice) I love seeing nice cars and the enjoyment that people get from them.

That being said I do think that it's a bit silly stretching yourself to the point of bankruptcy to make the payments on a car and have f#ck all in the fridge and not being able to put it right if it sh#ts itself. But it's not my life it's theirs so crack on if that's what they want to do.
Why not just leave them to it without the condescending empty fridge chat?

Hereward

4,234 posts

233 months

GT9 said:
Cold said:
Well, first they would have to actually fit a turbocharger, then I suppose they could change the oil seal - but some might suggest it might be prudent to check it before fitting.

Otherwise, yes, like you say clockwork.
Not actually sure, are you due a parrot?
The engine has a supercharger, not a turbocharger, so one could argue the parrot should be awarded elsewhere.

Acuity30

225 posts

21 months

Someone said it earlier, but OP should've just left it parked up somewhere in Bham or Bradford when the light first came on. Only way out of such a financial disaster

kev b

2,718 posts

169 months

If I had to check the compression on any engine with a suspected timing chain fault then the last thing I would do is to wind it over on the starter, never mind actually start it up!

Should have used a leak-down tester and turned the crank very carefully by hand, only needs two revolutions to check all 8 cylinders.

The damage was probably already done when it arrived at the second garage but IMO they were very unwise to start it up.

I have seen this kind of thing many times, ie oil light comes on and the owner drives it home as “its not very far”, wrecking the engine. Same scenario with coolant loss or overheating, saving £100 on recovery and costing thousands to repair the damage.

GT9

7,064 posts

175 months

Hereward said:
GT9 said:
Cold said:
Well, first they would have to actually fit a turbocharger, then I suppose they could change the oil seal - but some might suggest it might be prudent to check it before fitting.

Otherwise, yes, like you say clockwork.
Not actually sure, are you due a parrot?
The engine has a supercharger, not a turbocharger, so one could argue the parrot should be awarded elsewhere.
For real.
Maybe read the whole thread, of course I know it has a supercharger, I said so earlier in the thread.
The turbocharger comment was satire which I thought would be obvious to anyone, except maybe the OP.
Apparently not.

BricktopST205

1,108 posts

137 months

Flumpo said:
It wasn’t the law in 2019 as I can’t get life insurance and it wasn’t an issue for nationwide and I made it very clear as I failed their life insurance criteria - as I told them I would before hand!

Edit - bit confusing, you may be talking about house insurance. I suspect there are a lot of people breaking that law if it is one.
I wasn't talking about life insurance being mandatory but is more like a warranty for your car but for your body instead! However I think pretty much all mortgage providers will not give you a mortgage without having house insurance. Maybe it isn't law but it definitely a requirement to get a mortgage.

BricktopST205

1,108 posts

137 months

kev b said:
If I had to check the compression on any engine with a suspected timing chain fault then the last thing I would do is to wind it over on the starter, never mind actually start it up!

Should have used a leak-down tester and turned the crank very carefully by hand, only needs two revolutions to check all 8 cylinders.

The damage was probably already done when it arrived at the second garage but IMO they were very unwise to start it up.

I have seen this kind of thing many times, ie oil light comes on and the owner drives it home as “its not very far”, wrecking the engine. Same scenario with coolant loss or overheating, saving £100 on recovery and costing thousands to repair the damage.
We can all speculate but judging from the OP she took it to her "local" garage to check it who turned her away as they were not specialised enough to deal with it. That is alarm bells straight away as where has she been having it serviced previously? Surely a JLR product with a 5.0 would at least be looked after with a specialist or main dealer as it is only 8 years old. It is not something you handover care to Quick fit or Halfords service centres. The minute she said she had to google "Land Rover Specialist" would say this is the case. Most likely had generic oil filters and oil out the barrel and now stretched its chain and messed up the valvetrain!

ChocolateFrog

26,359 posts

176 months

BricktopST205 said:
We can all speculate but judging from the OP she took it to her "local" garage to check it who turned her away as they were not specialised enough to deal with it. That is alarm bells straight away as where has she been having it serviced previously? Surely a JLR product with a 5.0 would at least be looked after with a specialist or main dealer as it is only 8 years old. It is not something you handover care to Quick fit or Halfords service centres. The minute she said she had to google "Land Rover Specialist" would say this is the case. Most likely had generic oil filters and oil out the barrel and now stretched its chain and messed up the valvetrain!
TBF few places do proper work these days. If its more involved than a set of discs and pads then a lot of places start turning their noses up.