Bangkok, another street race nobody asked for
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Obviously only speculation, and Steffano meeting people doesn't mean anything, but do we really need another frigging street circuit?
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Maybe we can have spiral jump in the middle of the circuit????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaqXxC0rhSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaqXxC0rhSw
As has been commented elsewhere, this is yet another part of the preparation from F1 for the eventual breakaway from FIA to be an American-style self-governing sport.
It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
Sandpit Steve said:
As has been commented elsewhere, this is yet another part of the preparation from F1 for the eventual breakaway from FIA to be an American-style self-governing sport.
It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
It probably is, but I think they will find most will turn off as it is turning in to Formula E, apart from Baku and Australia all the street circuits are crap (imho), even Monaco, the cars are too wide, tracks too narrow, it is just a bore, especially when we have lost many great tracks that could make a comeback Kyalami would be nice, but I think the infield is probably too small to house F1, but what a great track that would be to have back, or if they managed to sort all the sIt’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
t out with India another great track, when you think that all the new street circuits added are nowhere near the top 15 tracks of most people to see races on, Spa or Miami? Monza or Las Vegas? Singapore or Silverstone? I would swap any of those street circuits for Kyalami or Estoril, lets bring that one back, not another street circuit.seymourski said:
It will never happen as it would be too embarrassing when Lance gets over-taken by a Tuk-tuk going into Turn 3.
Funny part is the Tuk-tuk would probably make the corner as well.From the latest issue of the excellent Joe Saward Notebook. For those who don’t know Joe, he’s been to every race since Senna and Prost were team mates. He now writes both a race weekend magazine published hours after the chequered flag, and also a motorsport business newsletter subscribed to by the competitors and other journalists, which often has the stories before anyone else. He knows pretty much everyone in the paddock.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2025/03/19/green-n...
“Asia is important and straight after Melbourne, F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali and his chief race promotion officer Louise Young popped up to Thailand, en route for China to look at possible future F1 projects that are being proposed. A night race is likely.
“There was a project a year ago when Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin visited the F1 race in Imola but within months Thailand’s Constitutional Court ruled that he should be removed from office and Paetongtarn Shinawatra was named as his replacement. She is the daughter of another deposed former PM who has powerful connections with the Thai royal family and with the military, which between them hold the real power in the country. F1 is looking for a stable environment, government guarantees and a high-paying long-term deal, preferably 10 years. It also wants an exciting venue. It is hard to find such things in today’s world…
“There are lots of good reasons why Thailand is a good idea. Red Bull is Thai and Alex Albon is doing well in his Williams. And Thailand wants more tourists.
“In the meantime, Melbourne is quietly working to overtake the British GP to be the best attended race of the year. That is likely to happen next year as Melbourne should open a new metro station due to open on the northern side of the park, which will allow more people to get in and out of the venue. Albert Park is the model for modern Grands Prix. It is a huge event, close to the city centre and the ecological impact is kept to a minimum by the use of public transportation. It’s a festival, with more and more things to keep fans coming back year after year. It would be nice to see more similar events in Europe, where races trend to be busy but in remote locations and massive traffic jams. This year the race was attended by 465,498 over four days, despite the weather…”
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2025/03/19/green-n...
“Asia is important and straight after Melbourne, F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali and his chief race promotion officer Louise Young popped up to Thailand, en route for China to look at possible future F1 projects that are being proposed. A night race is likely.
“There was a project a year ago when Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin visited the F1 race in Imola but within months Thailand’s Constitutional Court ruled that he should be removed from office and Paetongtarn Shinawatra was named as his replacement. She is the daughter of another deposed former PM who has powerful connections with the Thai royal family and with the military, which between them hold the real power in the country. F1 is looking for a stable environment, government guarantees and a high-paying long-term deal, preferably 10 years. It also wants an exciting venue. It is hard to find such things in today’s world…
“There are lots of good reasons why Thailand is a good idea. Red Bull is Thai and Alex Albon is doing well in his Williams. And Thailand wants more tourists.
“In the meantime, Melbourne is quietly working to overtake the British GP to be the best attended race of the year. That is likely to happen next year as Melbourne should open a new metro station due to open on the northern side of the park, which will allow more people to get in and out of the venue. Albert Park is the model for modern Grands Prix. It is a huge event, close to the city centre and the ecological impact is kept to a minimum by the use of public transportation. It’s a festival, with more and more things to keep fans coming back year after year. It would be nice to see more similar events in Europe, where races trend to be busy but in remote locations and massive traffic jams. This year the race was attended by 465,498 over four days, despite the weather…”
Sandpit Steve said:
As has been commented elsewhere, this is yet another part of the preparation from F1 for the eventual breakaway from FIA to be an American-style self-governing sport.
It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
F1 might struggle to enjoy a warm welcome in much of the world as a self governed sport - if Trump continues his rhetoric.It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
NASCAR is Canada is already facing some serious opposition (Trumps a NASCAR fan) and the F1 Canadian GP could easily become difficult this year if the situation deteriorates, or if Trump turns up at another GP before then.
I'm aware that Trump's buffoonery is more of a concern in the world beyond F1
, but since you mentioned the sport becoming wholesale US governed, it's worth considering how unpopular/untenable that could make it, depending on how the next few years pan out... In many ways continuing attachment to the FIA could be seen by Liberty as a safer bet, even if wasn't their original preference. TheDeuce said:
Sandpit Steve said:
As has been commented elsewhere, this is yet another part of the preparation from F1 for the eventual breakaway from FIA to be an American-style self-governing sport.
It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
F1 might struggle to enjoy a warm welcome in much of the world as a self governed sport - if Trump continues his rhetoric.It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
NASCAR is Canada is already facing some serious opposition (Trumps a NASCAR fan) and the F1 Canadian GP could easily become difficult this year if the situation deteriorates, or if Trump turns up at another GP before then.
I'm aware that Trump's buffoonery is more of a concern in the world beyond F1
, but since you mentioned the sport becoming wholesale US governed, it's worth considering how unpopular/untenable that could make it, depending on how the next few years pan out... In many ways continuing attachment to the FIA could be seen by Liberty as a safer bet, even if wasn't their original preference. TheDeuce said:
Sandpit Steve said:
As has been commented elsewhere, this is yet another part of the preparation from F1 for the eventual breakaway from FIA to be an American-style self-governing sport.
It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
F1 might struggle to enjoy a warm welcome in much of the world as a self governed sport - if Trump continues his rhetoric.It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
NASCAR is Canada is already facing some serious opposition (Trumps a NASCAR fan) and the F1 Canadian GP could easily become difficult this year if the situation deteriorates, or if Trump turns up at another GP before then.
I'm aware that Trump's buffoonery is more of a concern in the world beyond F1
, but since you mentioned the sport becoming wholesale US governed, it's worth considering how unpopular/untenable that could make it, depending on how the next few years pan out... In many ways continuing attachment to the FIA could be seen by Liberty as a safer bet, even if wasn't their original preference. Sandpit Steve said:
From the latest issue of the excellent Joe Saward Notebook. For those who don’t know Joe, he’s been to every race since Senna and Prost were team mates. He now writes both a race weekend magazine published hours after the chequered flag, and also a motorsport business newsletter subscribed to by the competitors and other journalists, which often has the stories before anyone else. He knows pretty much everyone in the paddock.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2025/03/19/green-n...
“Asia is important and straight after Melbourne, F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali and his chief race promotion officer Louise Young popped up to Thailand, en route for China to look at possible future F1 projects that are being proposed. A night race is likely.
“There was a project a year ago when Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin visited the F1 race in Imola but within months Thailand’s Constitutional Court ruled that he should be removed from office and Paetongtarn Shinawatra was named as his replacement. She is the daughter of another deposed former PM who has powerful connections with the Thai royal family and with the military, which between them hold the real power in the country. F1 is looking for a stable environment, government guarantees and a high-paying long-term deal, preferably 10 years. It also wants an exciting venue. It is hard to find such things in today’s world…
“There are lots of good reasons why Thailand is a good idea. Red Bull is Thai and Alex Albon is doing well in his Williams. And Thailand wants more tourists.
“In the meantime, Melbourne is quietly working to overtake the British GP to be the best attended race of the year. That is likely to happen next year as Melbourne should open a new metro station due to open on the northern side of the park, which will allow more people to get in and out of the venue. Albert Park is the model for modern Grands Prix. It is a huge event, close to the city centre and the ecological impact is kept to a minimum by the use of public transportation. It’s a festival, with more and more things to keep fans coming back year after year. It would be nice to see more similar events in Europe, where races trend to be busy but in remote locations and massive traffic jams. This year the race was attended by 465,498 over four days, despite the weather…”
Thaksin Shinawatra was a piece of work. I expect the Paetongtarn apple did not fall far from the tree. The new Thai King is not that popular either, for very good reasons that embarrass Thais, and the army are some of the worst Thais you wouldn't want to meet. Sounds like a prime trinity for FIA endorsement!!https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2025/03/19/green-n...
“Asia is important and straight after Melbourne, F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali and his chief race promotion officer Louise Young popped up to Thailand, en route for China to look at possible future F1 projects that are being proposed. A night race is likely.
“There was a project a year ago when Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin visited the F1 race in Imola but within months Thailand’s Constitutional Court ruled that he should be removed from office and Paetongtarn Shinawatra was named as his replacement. She is the daughter of another deposed former PM who has powerful connections with the Thai royal family and with the military, which between them hold the real power in the country. F1 is looking for a stable environment, government guarantees and a high-paying long-term deal, preferably 10 years. It also wants an exciting venue. It is hard to find such things in today’s world…
“There are lots of good reasons why Thailand is a good idea. Red Bull is Thai and Alex Albon is doing well in his Williams. And Thailand wants more tourists.
“In the meantime, Melbourne is quietly working to overtake the British GP to be the best attended race of the year. That is likely to happen next year as Melbourne should open a new metro station due to open on the northern side of the park, which will allow more people to get in and out of the venue. Albert Park is the model for modern Grands Prix. It is a huge event, close to the city centre and the ecological impact is kept to a minimum by the use of public transportation. It’s a festival, with more and more things to keep fans coming back year after year. It would be nice to see more similar events in Europe, where races trend to be busy but in remote locations and massive traffic jams. This year the race was attended by 465,498 over four days, despite the weather…”
Sandpit Steve said:
TheDeuce said:
Sandpit Steve said:
As has been commented elsewhere, this is yet another part of the preparation from F1 for the eventual breakaway from FIA to be an American-style self-governing sport.
It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
F1 might struggle to enjoy a warm welcome in much of the world as a self governed sport - if Trump continues his rhetoric.It’s dressed up as usual in woke language of sustainability and diversity, wanting events in upcoming cities rather than in the middle of nowhere where all the fans travel by car, but the big picture is that they know they’ll lose access to permanent circuits if they break away from the FIA.
NASCAR is Canada is already facing some serious opposition (Trumps a NASCAR fan) and the F1 Canadian GP could easily become difficult this year if the situation deteriorates, or if Trump turns up at another GP before then.
I'm aware that Trump's buffoonery is more of a concern in the world beyond F1
, but since you mentioned the sport becoming wholesale US governed, it's worth considering how unpopular/untenable that could make it, depending on how the next few years pan out... In many ways continuing attachment to the FIA could be seen by Liberty as a safer bet, even if wasn't their original preference. Likes Fast Cars said:
seymourski said:
It will never happen as it would be too embarrassing when Lance gets over-taken by a Tuk-tuk going into Turn 3.
Those tuk tuks are bloody fast though!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQvCKtgZS9E
PhilAsia said:
Sounds like a prime trinity for FIA endorsement!!
FIA/F1 new venue checklist:v dodgy rulers - check
Loads of money to grift - check
Free ‘hospitality’ and brown envelopes - check
Open to corruption - check
Looking to sportwash/use tenuous links to the sport - check
Street circuit - check
Somewhere near the v bottom under optional
Improves the sport - no
The main issue is, if you keep watching it, they will keep coming up with garbage like this, in the end most F1 seasons will rely on some standard races,m everything else will be a rotational basis and these countries will still be happy to wait 2 years to get their income from you all.
On the positive side... I do like pretty much any new circuit for it's first year or two. It doesn't have to be a good circuit, it just has to be new to typically throw up a fairly decent weekend of sport/drama. I was gutted when the Vietnamese GP was cancelled ahead of it's inaugural use, not because I thought it was a good idea/circuit, but because I knew it would throw up some weirdness and we'd have the drivers trying different approaches to parts of the circuit, complaining that the surface was brand new - and terrible.
I didn't get the Vietnam GP but I'm expecting Bangkok to be about the same tbh, if it actually happens!
I didn't get the Vietnam GP but I'm expecting Bangkok to be about the same tbh, if it actually happens!
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