Rwanda!

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Sheetmaself

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5,841 posts

210 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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What the actual, now I may of missed something here but aren’t we still having a benefit concert for this country?

How on earth can it be ethical for their leadership to soend Millions in order to build a race track for Formula 1 to race on?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/cdd6...

Zammy

619 posts

175 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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Didn't realise Alex Wurz is now a grand prix circuit designer too.

Jasandjules

70,831 posts

241 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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What makes you think that ethics are an issue for F1 ??

anonymous-user

66 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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Corrupt country wants to give money to corrupt FIA for marketing purposes. If it makes anyone feel better they'll probably use some of the £700m they got from British tax payers for doing nothing to furnish the FIA president with spends to service his private jet.

The teams and drivers will turn a blind eye.

SmoothCriminal

5,365 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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They pay circa £10,000,000.00 a year to have visit Rwanda on Arsenal shirts so what's a few million for a grand prix.

Tbh it should be subsidised anyway as Africa deserves an f1 race.

HocusPocus

1,310 posts

113 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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At a cost of £413,000 perhaps the UK taxpayer should send Priti, Suella and James to watch the inaugural Rwanda GP and join the unwoke FIA in affirming the host's human rights compliance. Rachel Reeves will decide if their return fare is a priority public spend.

For an African GP, I'd love to watch cars lapping Kyalami.

Gazzab

21,326 posts

294 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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Shock horror. It’s about money not ethics.

Westyn

75 posts

21 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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I am all for a return to an F1 race in Africa but I am not sure if Rwanda is the best country for this.

Frimley111R

16,580 posts

246 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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SmoothCriminal said:
They pay circa £10,000,000.00 a year to have visit Rwanda on Arsenal shirts so what's a few million for a grand prix.

Tbh it should be subsidised anyway as Africa deserves an f1 race.
In what way do they 'deserve' a race?

robemcdonald

9,328 posts

208 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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They have some money to build a circuit as some bunch of mugs gave them £700 million to take 4 asylum seekers.

SmoothCriminal

5,365 posts

211 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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Frimley111R said:
SmoothCriminal said:
They pay circa £10,000,000.00 a year to have visit Rwanda on Arsenal shirts so what's a few million for a grand prix.

Tbh it should be subsidised anyway as Africa deserves an f1 race.
In what way do they 'deserve' a race?
Well every other populated continent in the world has an F1 race and it's a global sport.

To have the 2nd largest continent not even have one doesn't seem to fit with f1's push for diversity and inclusion.

bergclimber34

819 posts

5 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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To be brutally honest should they not be looking at Kyalami, far more history and the track is great!

Frimley111R

16,580 posts

246 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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EmailAddress said:
Frimley111R said:
SmoothCriminal said:
They pay circa £10,000,000.00 a year to have visit Rwanda on Arsenal shirts so what's a few million for a grand prix.

Tbh it should be subsidised anyway as Africa deserves an f1 race.
In what way do they 'deserve' a race?
Don't do that.
Do what?

thegreenhell

18,735 posts

231 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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bergclimber34 said:
To be brutally honest should they not be looking at Kyalami, far more history and the track is great!
No doubt they could easily host a race if they had the money and the political desire for it, but it seems they have neither at the moment.

PhilAsia

5,439 posts

87 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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Frimley111R said:
EmailAddress said:
Frimley111R said:
SmoothCriminal said:
They pay circa £10,000,000.00 a year to have visit Rwanda on Arsenal shirts so what's a few million for a grand prix.

Tbh it should be subsidised anyway as Africa deserves an f1 race.
In what way do they 'deserve' a race?
Don't do that.
Do what?
'That'

Jasandjules

70,831 posts

241 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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Frimley111R said:
In what way do they 'deserve' a race?
What do you mean by they?

The subject was the entire continent of Africa.... But I can see clearly (though I wish I could not) why some people hate Lewis for no identifiable reason.


Presuming Ed

1,574 posts

220 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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Jasandjules said:
Frimley111R said:
In what way do they 'deserve' a race?
What do you mean by they?

The subject was the entire continent of Africa.... But I can see clearly (though I wish I could not) why some people hate Lewis for no identifiable reason.

Trolling or serious J&J?

So the guy asks why Rwanda deserves a GP? They don't deserve one but wouldn't it be great to see a GP in Africa. It would be too easy to give it too SA so central Africa is very welcome. Great for Tourism, promoting Africa and a good news story for F1. If you believe certain sections of society, charity has held Africa back as they are keen to do their own promotion going forward and changing the attitudes of people from developed nations. You do need to ask if hosting a GP provides trickle down to the people. Its not racist to ask the question is it?

Edited by Presuming Ed on Monday 16th December 09:57

Zetec-S

6,402 posts

105 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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I'll hold my hands up and say I know very little about Rwanda, the only thing which comes to mind is the genocide back in the 90's, but obviously things have changed since then. No idea how "modern" it has become, so I guess in some ways an F1 race in Rwanda (or elsewhere in Africa) would be a good opportunity to showcase how things have changed and dispel outdated preconceptions.

Appreciate there may be human rights record issues, but that's no worse (and probably better) than some of the other locations F1 is held these days. Likewise it still goes to places with significant poverty issues, for example Brazil, Mexico, a car park in Miami, etc...

thiscocks

3,313 posts

207 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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Makes zero sense to host a race in one of the poorer African countries. If SA dont / cant do it then I dont see how it would be beneficial for any other African country to do it. Lets face it none of the countries in Africa exactly have any notable history of circuit racing other than SA.

Bo_apex

3,389 posts

230 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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HocusPocus said:
At a cost of £413,000 perhaps the UK taxpayer should send Priti, Suella and James to watch the inaugural Rwanda GP and join the unwoke FIA in affirming the host's human rights compliance. Rachel Reeves will decide if their return fare is a priority public spend.

For an African GP, I'd love to watch cars lapping Kyalami.
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Do you mean this Rachel Reeves ?



Claim: Rachel Reeves told voters she worked “as an economist… at Halifax Bank of Scotland” when standing for parliament in 2010.
Reality: She worked at Halifax in a retail banking complaints team between 2006 and 2009.

Claim: She told Stylist magazine in 2021: “I spent a decade at the Bank of England and loved it.”
Reality: She worked at the Bank of England for six years, including a master’s degree and two-year stint in an embassy.

Claim: Reeves signed off an official document filed to Companies House describing herself as “an economist”.
Reality: This was while she was working at HBOS, where sources have said she was responsible for delivering IT and administration projects.

Claim: Reeves said she was an economist at HBOS on her LinkedIn.
Reality: This was changed last week to “retail banking”.

Claim: In 2023, she told an event hosted by the Institute for Government about “all that time working as an economist at the Bank [of England] and in the private sector…”
Reality: She has never worked as an economist in the private sector.


One former colleague, Wendy, 64, who asked for her surname not to be published, worked with Reeves throughout her time at HBOS in the customer relations department and claimed she had been haughty towards her juniors.
“She looked down at people,” said Wendy, who was a customer relations manager at HBOS between 2005 and 2010. “She just thought she was above everybody else.”


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