Should Ferrari keep Carlos?

Should Ferrari keep Carlos?

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Tazar

Original Poster:

577 posts

204 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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It was a tremendous scoop for Ferrari to sign Lewis Hamilton for the 2025 season but it meant that they had to get rid of someone. Charles is , so it seems, a permanent member of the team so the axe fell upon Carlos, a driver who has been performing strongly on a number of occasions.
The very hierarchy of Ferrari decided that Lewis would be a good match for the team and that may have been the case a few years ago but is it now?
Ferrari are a very rich team so they can afford to honour their paycheque to Lewis and tell him that they have had second thoughts. Lewis can become an ambassador for Ferrari as a car manufacturer and get his money from that side of the company. He can be involved in the design and manufacturing of high profile road and track cars, fashion and luxury items. That’s a long term strategy for both Ferrari and Lewis.

Altrezia

8,644 posts

223 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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No.

DOCG

714 posts

66 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Yes

MitchT

16,577 posts

221 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Yes, I think they should keep Carlos, but I agree with the OP that Ferrari's hiring of Lewis is part a longer term brand vision that will extend well beyond his driving career. The initial driving part has to happen to give the longer term partnership some credibility. Carlos's career is, unfortunately, collateral damage in all of this.

Leithen

12,654 posts

279 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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They're not going to, so that's the end of that.

Doesn't mean he won't return however....

Räikkönen, Berger.

TikTak

2,103 posts

31 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Aside from the fact it won't happen, I do really like Carlos but in all honesty is he a safer bet for a title (of any kind) than Hamilton? Jury is out but time is ticking on Carlos like it did for Danny Ric, being likeable isn't going to get you a championship.

Is LH on the decline? Perhaps. Is he losing interest with F1? This season for sure. Is he capable of race wins in the right car? Absolutely. Could he still win a title in the future? You'd have to look at Alonso and think, he'd probably be capable in the right car so why wouldn't Hamilton?



BigBen

12,017 posts

242 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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TikTak said:
Is he capable of race wins in the right car? Absolutely.
Agreed, I reckon he is so good could even get a couple of wins in this year's Mercedes.

Mr Pointy

12,295 posts

171 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Yes.

But lose Leclerc. They kept the wrong one.

Hustle_

25,410 posts

172 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Why keep Carlos with Hamilton available?

Ferrari can get Carlos back in the future if they want, when Leclerc goes (unlikely) or when Hamilton retires (inevitable)

cuprabob

16,287 posts

226 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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EmailAddress said:
Altrezia said:
No.
DOCG said:
Yes
Maybe.
Definitely.

Muzzer79

11,641 posts

199 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Tazar said:
Lewis can become an ambassador for Ferrari as a car manufacturer and get his money from that side of the company. He can be involved in the design and manufacturing of high profile road and track cars, fashion and luxury items. That’s a long term strategy for both Ferrari and Lewis.
But a hopelessly un-pragmatic strategy, so it won't happen.

Carlos has talent but I think his inconsistency shows that in a game of musical chairs with Hamilton and LeClerc, he'll be left standing up.

Sandpit Steve

11,930 posts

86 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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It’s a bit late now, the decision’s been made and the $100m of LH44 merch they’re expecting to sell has been sent for manufacture.

It’s most unfortunate for Carlos, but the Scuderia has a long history of dumping drivers even when they’re winning races.

The Spaniard still has an F1 drive, albeit one that’s not likely to win anything other than the most chaotic of races, but there’s always a chance another team picks him up for ‘26. Aston Martin are going to need two new drivers in the next couple of years, for one example. Red Bull might need two new drivers as well, but he probably doesn’t want to go back there especially with their own version of McLaren Honda (2015-2017) about to happen in 2026.

Super Sonic

8,653 posts

66 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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cuprabob said:
EmailAddress said:
Altrezia said:
No.
DOCG said:
Yes
Maybe.
Definitely.
Possibly

Siao

1,090 posts

52 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Bit late now?

MustangGT

12,789 posts

292 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Super Sonic said:
cuprabob said:
EmailAddress said:
Altrezia said:
No.
DOCG said:
Yes
Maybe.
Definitely.
Possibly
Definitely not.

Mr Pointy

12,295 posts

171 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Muzzer79 said:
Tazar said:
Lewis can become an ambassador for Ferrari as a car manufacturer and get his money from that side of the company. He can be involved in the design and manufacturing of high profile road and track cars, fashion and luxury items. That’s a long term strategy for both Ferrari and Lewis.
But a hopelessly un-pragmatic strategy, so it won't happen.
It already has:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-hamilton-ferra...

hondajack85

436 posts

11 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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I think Bill Bailey recently said the reason he didn't get a role in the hobbit films was probably due to fan stirred up social media petitions to get him a part in the films.
Sainz will suffer the same fate as Ferrari will always remember a campaign launched against them and all the constant pressure distracting them from their plans.

WPA

11,348 posts

126 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Nope, Lewis has fair more brand / marketing appeal

Muzzer79

11,641 posts

199 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Mr Pointy said:
Muzzer79 said:
Tazar said:
Lewis can become an ambassador for Ferrari as a car manufacturer and get his money from that side of the company. He can be involved in the design and manufacturing of high profile road and track cars, fashion and luxury items. That’s a long term strategy for both Ferrari and Lewis.
But a hopelessly un-pragmatic strategy, so it won't happen.
It already has:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-hamilton-ferra...
Do I need to state the obvious that it's not in the context of him giving up his race seat at the same time?

Bo_apex

3,326 posts

230 months

Monday 11th November 2024
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Ham will sell more merch than Sainz.

Job jobbed.