Time for new young blood

Time for new young blood

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Tazar

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538 posts

199 months

Monday 16th September
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I was impressed by Ollie Bearman earlier in the year and he scored a point for Haas yesterday. Likewise Williams looks good for the rest of the year. As someone who has followed the sport for 60 odd years I’m always impressed by youngsters coming in and showing their abilities. We do have a few old hands that have passed their prime who should have moved on and maybe a couple or so who don’t deserve their seat on present performance.
F2 is showing up well at the moment with its graduates so maybe team management should be bringing in the young drivers but making sure that they nurture them.

DMC2

1,884 posts

218 months

Monday 16th September
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Tazar said:
I was impressed by Ollie Bearman earlier in the year and he scored a point for Haas yesterday. Likewise Williams looks good for the rest of the year. As someone who has followed the sport for 60 odd years I’m always impressed by youngsters coming in and showing their abilities. We do have a few old hands that have passed their prime who should have moved on and maybe a couple or so who don’t deserve their seat on present performance.
F2 is showing up well at the moment with its graduates so maybe team management should be bringing in the young drivers but making sure that they nurture them.
The list of drivers who should not be on the starting grid this year is embarrassingly long. Unfortunately money and politics...

ChocolateFrog

28,559 posts

180 months

Monday 16th September
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The likes of DR, VB, SP and one or two others are just seat blocking.

Atleast Alonso and Hamilton are there on merit.

If you're good enough you're old enough works the other way too.

TheDeuce

25,146 posts

73 months

Monday 16th September
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DMC2 said:
The list of drivers who should not be on the starting grid this year is embarrassingly long. Unfortunately money and politics...
It's always been a factor. It could argued that in recent times we've had less drivers there due to money or politics than in previous eras.

I actually think the throuput of young talent in the last decade has been pretty healthy. Many have come, many have been invited to then go away again when they've failed. Several relatively young drivers are now on the grid and performing very well.


ThingsBehindTheSun

1,217 posts

38 months

Monday 16th September
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Add Kevin Magnussen to this group.

Luckily it looks like the majority of the really poor drivers don't have a drive next year. Somehow Perez hangs in there though.

Bottas, Guanyu, Magnussen and Riccardo are all a waste of a seat. And there is no way Stroll would be in F1 if it wasn't for his dad owning the team.

Ocon would certainly not be missed either.

CT05 Nose Cone

25,220 posts

234 months

Monday 16th September
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Young drivers would have more of an opportunity if they allowed an 11th or even 12th team on the grid...

axel1990chp

892 posts

110 months

Monday 16th September
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It was my first time hearing Bearman on an interview on Sunday.

He's British, isn't he? yet he speaks a mix of Fluent British with an Italian accent in the back ground, even down to the cadence in his voice!

Similarly Lando has a bit of an accent behind his British tone too.

Is this down to them being from wealthy backgrounds and spending time elsewhere as kids etc?

Heathwood

2,797 posts

209 months

Monday 16th September
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axel1990chp said:
It was my first time hearing Bearman on an interview on Sunday.

He's British, isn't he? yet he speaks a mix of Fluent British with an Italian accent in the back ground, even down to the cadence in his voice!

Similarly Lando has a bit of an accent behind his British tone too.

Is this down to them being from wealthy backgrounds and spending time elsewhere as kids etc?
Yes, Bearman is British, although I believe he’s spent the last few years in Italy as part of Ferrari’s driver academy, which I assume has had an impact on his accent.

thepawbroon

1,191 posts

191 months

Monday 16th September
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axel1990chp said:
It was my first time hearing Bearman on an interview on Sunday.

He's British, isn't he? yet he speaks a mix of Fluent British with an Italian accent in the back ground, even down to the cadence in his voice!

Similarly Lando has a bit of an accent behind his British tone too.

Is this down to them being from wealthy backgrounds and spending time elsewhere as kids etc?
Also, Lando's mother is Belgian, so I expect that has had an influence.

I'm Scottish, my wife is English although her mother is Spanish and lives near us in S.London - there are some randomly-accented words coming out of our kids' mouths! I think my lad is the only one in his school who can properly pronounce Ardnamurchan, Loch Lochy and Crianlarich smile

Muzzer79

11,027 posts

194 months

Monday 16th September
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Experience is a highly valued commodity in F1 at present.

With a lack of testing, the budget cap meaning that crashes and damage are a problem and cars that require a lot of managing in terms of tyres, it's hard to justify a kid coming in unless one is absolutely sure.

For every Bearman there is a Sargeant or a Mick Schumacher. Why take that risk when you know Hulkenburg or someone will deliver solid results and get the car home every weekend?

But I agree that young drivers should get more opportunity - it's seemingly a timing thing as we have Antonelli, Doohan and Bearman all coming in for next year, probably with Lawson too.

TikTak

1,816 posts

26 months

Monday 16th September
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Yes very impressed with Bearman.

Want to mention Colapinto too, someone that not many of us gave much hope for. Finished right behind Albon in a very assured race after it being mentioned that he's lacking in the race pace/fitness stakes at this point in his fledgling career. No doubts that Sargeant would have been bumming around the back with the Sauber's.


Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

26 months

Monday 16th September
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Did I dream Kravitz say yesterday that Liam Lawson is likely to be in the RB for Singapore?

Sandpit Steve

11,357 posts

81 months

Monday 16th September
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Muzzer79 said:
Experience is a highly valued commodity in F1 at present.

With a lack of testing, the budget cap meaning that crashes and damage are a problem and cars that require a lot of managing in terms of tyres, it's hard to justify a kid coming in unless one is absolutely sure.

For every Bearman there is a Sargeant or a Mick Schumacher. Why take that risk when you know Hulkenburg or someone will deliver solid results and get the car home every weekend?

But I agree that young drivers should get more opportunity - it's seemingly a timing thing as we have Antonelli, Doohan and Bearman all coming in for next year, probably with Lawson too.
Would be good to see Colapinto get himself a drive as well, perhaps in the Sauber. That would be five rookies, which would be great after there being no driver changes at all this year.

The teams need to take more risks on drivers, James Vowles has shown the way forward when it comes to dumping someone who doesn’t perform, and it paid off almost immediately with a massive hatful of points yesterday.

StevieBee

13,542 posts

262 months

Monday 16th September
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Heathwood said:
axel1990chp said:
It was my first time hearing Bearman on an interview on Sunday.

He's British, isn't he? yet he speaks a mix of Fluent British with an Italian accent in the back ground, even down to the cadence in his voice!

Similarly Lando has a bit of an accent behind his British tone too.

Is this down to them being from wealthy backgrounds and spending time elsewhere as kids etc?
Yes, Bearman is British, although I believe he’s spent the last few years in Italy as part of Ferrari’s driver academy, which I assume has had an impact on his accent.
Bearman is from my neck of the woods (Chelmsford) but there's not a hint of Essex anywhere in his accent.

Living and essentially working in Italy will have an influence. So too is the media training all young drivers get which has the effect of dialling out regional accents - whether by design or default. It's unlikely we'll see or hear another Mansell in F1.



Evanivitch

22,054 posts

129 months

Monday 16th September
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ThingsBehindTheSun said:
And there is no way Stroll would be in F1 if it wasn't for his dad owning the team.
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Even Stroll's petulance is starting to wind me up, it's okay to be slow(er) if even the team think your likeable or you can do media or you can assist your team mate. But he's absolutely none of that. Useless setup feedback on the radio, miserable in the media pen and has to rely on Alonso to help him most times.

I hope he just walks away for his own happiness.

DaveTheRave87

2,131 posts

96 months

Monday 16th September
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Did I dream Kravitz say yesterday that Liam Lawson is likely to be in the RB for Singapore?
You may have misheard, they're going to announce their 2025 lineup after Singapore.

TheDeuce

25,146 posts

73 months

Monday 16th September
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StevieBee said:
Bearman is from my neck of the woods (Chelmsford) but there's not a hint of Essex anywhere in his accent.

Living and essentially working in Italy will have an influence. So too is the media training all young drivers get which has the effect of dialling out regional accents - whether by design or default. It's unlikely we'll see or hear another Mansell in F1.


Half way through for the mansell impression to get underway smile

thegreenhell

17,201 posts

226 months

Monday 16th September
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Did I dream Kravitz say yesterday that Liam Lawson is likely to be in the RB for Singapore?
There was a rumour a couple of weeks ago, I think Joe Saward might have mentioned it, that he would get a one off drive in Singapore. I haven't seen any official announcement.