Grand Prix Winners together on the F1 grid
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Lando has become the newest first time F1 Grand Prix winner with his win in Miami.
At the next Grand Prix in Imola, there will be a total of 12 Grand Prix winners on the grid together.
12 drivers out of 20 is 60% which I believe is quite high.
Is this the highest number of Grand Prix winners on the grid competing at the same time?
At the next Grand Prix in Imola, there will be a total of 12 Grand Prix winners on the grid together.
12 drivers out of 20 is 60% which I believe is quite high.
Is this the highest number of Grand Prix winners on the grid competing at the same time?
Common Porpoise said:
There was a post by Goodwood on Facebook a few days ago about the 1979 grid where juet about every driver was s winner
Looking quickly at the drivers list some of those would be future GP winners I think.I don't know the stats to work out which ones were already GP winners at that point in 1979.
I'd be willing to bet this was true, because 1) drivers have much longer careers now, and 2) the grid is much more stable now
My first thought was 2012, but (I think) that only got to 50% (that was the year there were 8 winners in the first 8 races)
I was actually thinking of spending some time working this out, after all, it's not hard to build up a list of all the winners since 1950.
However, I've decided I can't be arsed because of point 2 above - in the past you would have had a lot more drivers coming and going during the season what with pay drivers, pre qualifying, teams folding, and changing grid sizes etc, so building up that list of who was actually ON THE GRID for a GP start would be trickier.
If you got to the point of having the data organised it would be a PoP to work out from there though. Be interested if someone here puts in the effort to do that. Please note: my expected output would be a graph of the percentage tracked over time by year/race number
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My first thought was 2012, but (I think) that only got to 50% (that was the year there were 8 winners in the first 8 races)
I was actually thinking of spending some time working this out, after all, it's not hard to build up a list of all the winners since 1950.
However, I've decided I can't be arsed because of point 2 above - in the past you would have had a lot more drivers coming and going during the season what with pay drivers, pre qualifying, teams folding, and changing grid sizes etc, so building up that list of who was actually ON THE GRID for a GP start would be trickier.
If you got to the point of having the data organised it would be a PoP to work out from there though. Be interested if someone here puts in the effort to do that. Please note: my expected output would be a graph of the percentage tracked over time by year/race number
Love this stuff!
MCBrowncoat said:
I'd be willing to bet this was true, because 1) drivers have much longer careers now, and 2) the grid is much more stable now
My first thought was 2012, but (I think) that only got to 50% (that was the year there were 8 winners in the first 8 races)
I was actually thinking of spending some time working this out, after all, it's not hard to build up a list of all the winners since 1950.
However, I've decided I can't be arsed because of point 2 above - in the past you would have had a lot more drivers coming and going during the season what with pay drivers, pre qualifying, teams folding, and changing grid sizes etc, so building up that list of who was actually ON THE GRID for a GP start would be trickier.
If you got to the point of having the data organised it would be a PoP to work out from there though. Be interested if someone here puts in the effort to do that. Please note: my expected output would be a graph of the percentage tracked over time by year/race number
Love this stuff!
Modern reliability has probably made it a bit harder for a lower driver to score a win. Max and the redbull have effectively blocked lando from many earier opportunities that in an earlier era would likely have created more random chance of a big engine blowout. My first thought was 2012, but (I think) that only got to 50% (that was the year there were 8 winners in the first 8 races)
I was actually thinking of spending some time working this out, after all, it's not hard to build up a list of all the winners since 1950.
However, I've decided I can't be arsed because of point 2 above - in the past you would have had a lot more drivers coming and going during the season what with pay drivers, pre qualifying, teams folding, and changing grid sizes etc, so building up that list of who was actually ON THE GRID for a GP start would be trickier.
If you got to the point of having the data organised it would be a PoP to work out from there though. Be interested if someone here puts in the effort to do that. Please note: my expected output would be a graph of the percentage tracked over time by year/race number
Love this stuff!
The 1978 Belgian and Spanish Grands Prix each had 15 race winners enter:
Mario Andretti, Vittorio Brambilla, Patrick Depailler, Emerson Fittipaldi, James Hunt, Jacky Ickx, Alan Jones, Jacques Laffite, Niki Lauda, Jochen Mass, Ronnie Peterson, Clay Regazzoni, Carlos Reutemann, Jody Scheckter, and John Watson.
Depailler had won his first race immediately before, in Monaco, and Ickx did not qualify for any more races after Spain this year (he only entered four F1 races in the entire year).
Mario Andretti, Vittorio Brambilla, Patrick Depailler, Emerson Fittipaldi, James Hunt, Jacky Ickx, Alan Jones, Jacques Laffite, Niki Lauda, Jochen Mass, Ronnie Peterson, Clay Regazzoni, Carlos Reutemann, Jody Scheckter, and John Watson.
Depailler had won his first race immediately before, in Monaco, and Ickx did not qualify for any more races after Spain this year (he only entered four F1 races in the entire year).
gshughes said:
TO73074E said:
The 1978 Belgian and Spanish Grands Prix each had 15 race winners.
Grids were much bigger in those days though, so it is probably a lower percentage than the current 12?Spanish GP also 24 starters (this time 5 failed to pre-qualify)
Good find
gshughes said:
Also interesting is the number of world champions on the grid at any one time. Currently three, but in the recent past has been quite a a bit higher.
I'm thinking 2012 must be up there with 6 - Schumacher, Hamilton, Button, Alonso, Räikkönen and Vettel, any advance on that?
Close in 1966 with 5; Brabham, Hill P, Hill G, Clark & Surtees.I'm thinking 2012 must be up there with 6 - Schumacher, Hamilton, Button, Alonso, Räikkönen and Vettel, any advance on that?
ajprice said:
Was 2022 the highest number of championships won by drivers on the grid? Verstappen had 1 at the time, Hamilton 7, Vettel 4, Alonso 2, so 14 championships on the grid.
2012 had the same, Vettel 2 (3 at the end of the season), Schumacher 7, Button 1, Hamilton 1, Alonso 2, Kimi 1.gshughes said:
Also interesting is the number of world champions on the grid at any one time. Currently three, but in the recent past has been quite a a bit higher.
I'm thinking 2012 must be up there with 6 - Schumacher, Hamilton, Button, Alonso, Räikkönen and Vettel, any advance on that?
Or how about the 1959 season, without a single World Champion in the field?I'm thinking 2012 must be up there with 6 - Schumacher, Hamilton, Button, Alonso, Räikkönen and Vettel, any advance on that?
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