“F1 calendar at saturation point”
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https://racer.com/2018/10/10/f1-calendar-at-satura...
According to Christian Horner On Racer.com
What do we think? Personally I feel he has a point. If you increase the number of races, you reduce the importance of each individual event.
I can only imagine what it must be like for the team personnel who have to work at each race. It must play havoc with your family life.
According to Christian Horner On Racer.com
What do we think? Personally I feel he has a point. If you increase the number of races, you reduce the importance of each individual event.
I can only imagine what it must be like for the team personnel who have to work at each race. It must play havoc with your family life.
I think he's spot on. 20 is pushing it but 21 with a triple header is too much.
I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
99dndd said:
I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
That's a great ideaHave 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
HustleRussell said:
99dndd said:
I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
That's a great ideaHave 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
HustleRussell said:
99dndd said:
I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
That's a great ideaHave 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
24lemons said:
HustleRussell said:
99dndd said:
I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
That's a great ideaHave 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
Hold the f
k on, did someone on PH actually just suggest something people can agree on for F1?Holy s
tballs Batman!sgtBerbatov said:
There's a lot to be said for having just 16 or 17 races per year. When the racing isn't as good (like this year really in a lot of respects) the quick succession of races just dulls the excitement.
I think this season has been really good so far!My view is that low 20s is the right amount. 22/23 would be good. Add in another triple header into the mix too.
The Moose said:
sgtBerbatov said:
There's a lot to be said for having just 16 or 17 races per year. When the racing isn't as good (like this year really in a lot of respects) the quick succession of races just dulls the excitement.
I think this season has been really good so far!My view is that low 20s is the right amount. 22/23 would be good. Add in another triple header into the mix too.
Kenny Powers said:
The Moose said:
sgtBerbatov said:
There's a lot to be said for having just 16 or 17 races per year. When the racing isn't as good (like this year really in a lot of respects) the quick succession of races just dulls the excitement.
I think this season has been really good so far!My view is that low 20s is the right amount. 22/23 would be good. Add in another triple header into the mix too.
99dndd said:
I think he's spot on. 20 is pushing it but 21 with a triple header is too much.
I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
Brilliant idea, I'd possibly tweek it to 12G/8S/12B, maybe even make the Bronze races change every year. FIA could introduce an annual bidding process for the Bronze races, similar to the Olympics or World Cup, possibly have one per region: European GP, Pacific GP, GP of the Americas (Austin would have to change it's name!) & World GP (Possibly need a snappier name for that one).I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
There are so many great tracks with stacks of history, which don't get to host a race anymore because they don't come up to modern standards. Hopefully, his would allow them to host a race without having to commit to a multi year deal in order to justify the expenditure on infrastructure.
sgtBerbatov said:
The start of the season was fantastic, different winners etc. Now though, well since the Ferrari guy died, it's just been Mercedes 1st, Ferrari maybe 2nd, Red Bull 3rd. It's just turned in to a procession.
Fair enough if that’s your view but I respectfully disagree. There’s been tons of close racing further down the field. It’s not all about the top three. Well not in my eyes at least.sgtBerbatov said:
The start of the season was fantastic, different winners etc. Now though, well since the Ferrari guy died, it's just been Mercedes 1st, Ferrari maybe 2nd, Red Bull 3rd. It's just turned in to a procession.
I don't think the two things are connected at all. Marchionne died just before the Hungarian race, Ferrari had the faster car that weekend, but rain during quali. and poor strategy on Sunday cost them the race.Spa was a comfortable Ferrari win.
Monza was again pure cock up in strategy during qualifying and the race, they were 1 and 2 on the grid and probably had the faster car that weekend.
Singapore looked like Ferrari all the way through free practice. Tyre selection cock ups and sheer brilliance from Hamilton in quali. cost them that race.
Russia looked like a Merc shoe in until quali when Ferrari were close, and on race pace there was very little in it.
Japan was an object lesson from Ferrari on how to cock things up.
Strategy over the weekends has been their main failing since Marchionne died and I doubt if he had anything to do with it, I don't think it's been a procession either.
As others have said, I think it's been a cracking season.
24lemons said:
I can only imagine what it must be like for the team personnel who have to work at each race. It must play havoc with your family life.
Speaking as someone who worked inside the F1 bubble, you either do it for a few seasons before seeing the light and getting out, or get sucked in to become a "lifer" and there are a quite a few of these people who become so indoctrinated that they struggle to function outside of F1 circles.Thankfully I got out after 4 years but I do believe if I had stayed much longer I would have been divorced and probably spent the rest of my days living alone.
Aside from whether or not you feel the racing has been compelling this year, I think there is a point where less is more. I find it difficult to commit the time to following F1 like I did when I was younger.
With fewer races, each one becomes more important in its own right, with more riding on the outcome of the individual races. That in itself can turn an otherwise mundane race into something a bit more meaningful.
I’ve come to love the IMSA Weathertech series recently and part of the appeal is that with a small calendar, each race feels like more of an event
With fewer races, each one becomes more important in its own right, with more riding on the outcome of the individual races. That in itself can turn an otherwise mundane race into something a bit more meaningful.
I’ve come to love the IMSA Weathertech series recently and part of the appeal is that with a small calendar, each race feels like more of an event
I also like the idea of rotating race locations. That's a sure winner.
But unlike most on here, I'd like to see more races. 30 maybe. And the last race of the season should be on Boxing Day. Somewhere southern Hemisphere, obvs.
The teams might have to double up on staff, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
But unlike most on here, I'd like to see more races. 30 maybe. And the last race of the season should be on Boxing Day. Somewhere southern Hemisphere, obvs.
The teams might have to double up on staff, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
99dndd said:
I think he's spot on. 20 is pushing it but 21 with a triple header is too much.
I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
I've had the same thought, kinda like the German tracks recently sharing a grand Prix.I'd try rotating races, to help out countries who built a track and can't afford a race every year like India or Turkey.
Have 10 Gold races that happen every year, 10 Silver races that happen every other year and 15 Bronze races that happen every 3 years. It means that the calendar only repeats itself every 6 years, 35 countries have a Grand Prix and the calendar's capped at 20 races.
The problem I'd envisage is a lot of the tracks the fans would happily relegate to biannual are the places paying big $$ and probably wouldn't take too well to being a tier 2 host, and it'd be Britain France etc scrabbling for money who end up with them. Anything but, would need liberty to place less emphasis on hosting fees in their big plan.
I did 42 GP's between early 1997 and mid 2000 and it was hard work, especially with testing and filming in-between. The social life vanishes and you are pretty tired from jet lag and no simple down time. Few back to back races then beyond Austria and Hungary. Having 22 or 23GP's today must be unbearable. Many teams do have a rotation system of sorts but still there but she 40-50 employees who do every GP. Pay isn't great unless a top engineer and gone are the days of business class travel and elegant 4 or 5 * hotels for most!! An experience but not one I would do aged 50.
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