The Official 2018 Austrian Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

The Official 2018 Austrian Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

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Dr Z

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3,396 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Date(s): Friday 29 June 2018 - Sunday 01 July 2018

UK Broadcast Timings (and local time)

All sessions are live on Sky F1 and Channel 4.

Session Day Sky F1 Channel 4 Session Start Local Time
Practice 1 Fri 0945 0955 1000 1100
Practice 2 Fri 1345 1355 1400 1500
Practice 3 Sat 1045 1055 1100 1200
Qualifying Sat 1300 1255 1400 1500
Race Sun 1230 1300 1410 1510


Red Bull Ring, Spielberg



Live timing for all sessions available here:

https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live.html

Lap times, PU component use, technical reports and Stewards' decisions for the weekend will appear here:

https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-c...

Weather forecast:

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Austria/A1-...

The tyre choices:



2017 Qualifying



2017 Race






This is one of my favourite tracks. Short lap, fast corners, tricky braking zones, blind apexes, elevation changes. Love it.

The FIA have added an extra DRS zone for this year’s race, so that’s 3 zones with 3 detection points. We’ll have to find out how it will influence the racing, to be honest I do get bored of easy DRS overtakes as we saw in Paul Ricard. However, if it will help some strategy divergence due to a smaller pace delta needed to pass another car on similar pace, then is it a good thing?

There was a mix of car setup approaches seen last year at this track, and as we saw in Canada, the extra DRS zone might well encourage teams to run more wing levels. Similar to Canada in terms of % full throttle per lap, fuel consumption and loads for the ERS.

All three of the top teams should have a more equal chance at winning this one, as we also return to the default spec of tyres. Pirelli have this to say:

  • It’s one of the shortest laps of the year (but the fastest in terms of lap time) with relatively low energy loads being placed through the tyres and good grip from the asphalt.
  • The first two sectors are fast and flowing, while the third sector is slower and more technical.
  • The mountain location means weather can be unpredictable, with sunshine and showers.
  • With lots of elevation, many corners are blind: finding a set-up that gives confidence is key.
  • A one-stopper was the most common choice last year, but with a few different variations.

Mario Isola - Pirelli Head of Car Racing said:
Austria features the same tyre nomination as France, but they are very different tracks, although both with the characteristic in common of being revamped circuits based on a historic venue. This also gives the Red Bull Ring quite an old-school feel that the drivers always appreciate. The track is more about acceleration and braking rather than lateral demands, but Austria has always the ability to produce a few surprises, also because the field is closely packed together on the short lap, so dealing with traffic is often a factor. One of the peculiarities of Austria is the fact that most of the corners are right-hand turns, but the two most demanding corners are left-handers. This means that the loaded tyres go into them almost ‘cold’, as they are not otherwise stressed throughout the lap.
Renault have finally announced they are bringing their long awaited MGU-K to this race. Praise be! Only a few Renault powered drivers can take it without a penalty though.

F2 timetable:



Edited by Dr Z on Thursday 28th June 11:35

HustleRussell

25,146 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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About time hehe

Ferrari circuit this year methinks.

Drive Blind

5,210 posts

183 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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thanks and well done Dr Z again for starting these informative threads clap

Austria 2016 - the scene of the Rosberg 'forgetting to turn' incident

the turn captain
not yet
captain t +10 seconds
not yet
captain!
RIGHT FULL RUDDER, SOUND COLLISION

parabolica

6,795 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Didn't realise this was one of C4's all live shows; should be a good weekend. I'm going with Bottas to repeat his win from last year, although I'd hedge my bets given his luck so far this year. Reckon Max will be up there this weekend too.

majordad

3,610 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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What’s Alonso’s odds?

skinny

5,269 posts

241 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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majordad said:
What’s Alonso’s odds?
Of finishing?

parabolica

6,795 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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skinny said:
majordad said:
What’s Alonso’s odds?
Of finishing?
Or getting 20 laps into the race and then complaining about the car?

Dr Z

Original Poster:

3,396 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Drive Blind said:
thanks and well done Dr Z again for starting these informative threads clap

Austria 2016 - the scene of the Rosberg 'forgetting to turn' incident

the turn captain
not yet
captain t +10 seconds
not yet
captain!
RIGHT FULL RUDDER, SOUND COLLISION
beer

Indeed this track has had some 'interesting' moments in the past. You shall not pass!

With such a short lap, I imagine the usually close midfield will be even closer. Every millisecond counts.

Jasandjules

70,420 posts

235 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Drive Blind said:
RIGHT FULL RUDDER, SOUND COLLISION
Perfect user name for the subject matter.....


Drive Blind

5,210 posts

183 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Dr Z said:
Indeed this track has had some 'interesting' moments in the past. You shall not pass!

the opposite of the 2002 Ferrari finish - You shall pass very easily. Boooooooo hehe

slipstream 1985

12,740 posts

185 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Clearly a merc engine track last year but this year the ferrari unit is better.

sandman77

2,559 posts

144 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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slipstream 1985 said:
Clearly a merc engine track last year but this year the ferrari unit is better.
I’m not so sure. The upgrade Merc brought last week seems to have the edge over the Ferrari.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

202 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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One of the few left I really want to drive and experience live.


Mr Dendrite

2,338 posts

216 months

Wednesday 27th June 2018
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Race start 2;10 UK, 3;10 local. Is this another late start because of football? They seem to be shifting the start times around a lot this year, ok gives me a bit more time to lever myself from the Sunday lunch table but runs the risk I'll already be dozing off by the warm up lap !

Joshsl

271 posts

128 months

Wednesday 27th June 2018
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Could this be the year they drop below the 1min lap time? I’m looking forward to it and I think it is Ferrari’s race to loose

Dr Z

Original Poster:

3,396 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th June 2018
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Joshsl said:
Could this be the year they drop below the 1min lap time? I’m looking forward to it and I think it is Ferrari’s race to loose
I reckon pole position will be in the low 1min 3sec.

rdjohn

6,333 posts

201 months

Wednesday 27th June 2018
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Dr Z said:
Joshsl said:
Could this be the year they drop below the 1min lap time? I’m looking forward to it and I think it is Ferrari’s race to loose
I reckon pole position will be in the low 1min 3sec.
So that could mean a fastest lap of 67 seconds. I think Ferrari will manage to lose the race. Perhaps a loose wheel will come off.

hairyben

8,516 posts

189 months

Wednesday 27th June 2018
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Pressure on vettel not to funk it up.

The importance of this triple header can barely be over stated IMO; there's a lot of pressure and it'll continue relentlessly and I think a lot of teams will be waiting on the outcome before finalising driver lineups, so for Lewis to kickoff round one with the win and assume the lead while vettel screws it makes the Lewis fanboy in me very happy.

Will adamsverstappen family be there for such an important race for max and RB, what effect might this have on max given his cleaner races were in their absence I believe? Were they at France?

Big Nanas

1,869 posts

90 months

Wednesday 27th June 2018
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Mr Dendrite said:
Race start 2;10 UK, 3;10 local. Is this another late start because of football? They seem to be shifting the start times around a lot this year, ok gives me a bit more time to lever myself from the Sunday lunch table but runs the risk I'll already be dozing off by the warm up lap !
No, it clashes with the football which starts at 3pm UK time. Bit annoying really. An hour earlier and it would be fine.

Dr Z

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3,396 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th June 2018
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So 8 races and a third of the Championship into this year, this is how top 5 drivers in the WDC table are looking compared to last year:

Driver 2017 2018 vs 2017
Hamilton 139 145 +6
Vettel 153 131 -22
Ricciardo 92 96 +4
Bottas 111 92 -19
Raikkonen 73 83 +10


Hamilton is 14 points in front of Vettel now, while Vettel was 14 points in front of Hamilton after 8 races last year.

Edited by Dr Z on Wednesday 27th June 13:09